Line from Kincade (Spoiler)

JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
Here's another thread about pronunciation :))

Although this time, it's not about Adele's song, but a scene in the film:
Is it me, or did Kincade address M as Emma? I am sure he called her that, and I heard it twice I think.

Which of these possible reasons do you think explains this?:

1 - Kincade misheard bond when he said her name was M - an error on Kincade's part.
2 - Albert Finney's pronunciation was poor, and he was supposed to say M but delivered it wrong.
3 - M's real name is infact Emma. And bond did say Emma, but pronounced it wrong, as M.

This is not something that bothers me, but just wanted to nitpick for fun and curiosity. Any ideas anyone?
1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby

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  • OsatoOsato Aberdeen, ScotlandPosts: 99MI6 Agent
    He does call her Emma. But why would he call her M? Nobody is called M! Kincaid doesn't even know that she and Bond work for MI6, so when Bond introduces her as M, Kincaid understandably assumes he mis-heard, and her name is Emma.



    Jarvio wrote:
    Here's another thread about pronunciation :))

    Although this time, it's not about Adele's song, but a scene in the film:
    Is it me, or did Kincade address M as Emma? I am sure he called her that, and I heard it twice I think.

    Which of these possible reasons do you think explains this?:

    1 - Kincade misheard bond when he said her name was M - an error on Kincade's part.
    2 - Albert Finney's pronunciation was poor, and he was supposed to say M but delivered it wrong.
    3 - M's real name is infact Emma. And bond did say Emma, but pronounced it wrong, as M.

    This is not something that bothers me, but just wanted to nitpick for fun and curiosity. Any ideas anyone?
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  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    Osato wrote:
    He does call her Emma. But why would he call her M? Nobody is called M! Kincaid doesn't even know that she and Bond work for MI6, so when Bond introduces her as M, Kincaid understandably assumes he mis-heard, and her name is Emma.
    Jarvio wrote:
    Here's another thread about pronunciation :))

    Although this time, it's not about Adele's song, but a scene in the film:
    Is it me, or did Kincade address M as Emma? I am sure he called her that, and I heard it twice I think.

    Which of these possible reasons do you think explains this?:

    1 - Kincade misheard bond when he said her name was M - an error on Kincade's part.
    2 - Albert Finney's pronunciation was poor, and he was supposed to say M but delivered it wrong.
    3 - M's real name is infact Emma. And bond did say Emma, but pronounced it wrong, as M.

    This is not something that bothers me, but just wanted to nitpick for fun and curiosity. Any ideas anyone?

    That makes sense. It never crossed my mind that bond didn't say where he knew M from. Sounds like you're probably right.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • i expect u2 diei expect u2 die LondonPosts: 583MI6 Agent
    It's a joke. He mishears Bond saying 'M' as 'Emma'. Got a pretty big laugh in both of my showings.
  • Hold CommandHold Command LondonPosts: 376MI6 Agent
    Just a bit of comic relief I think, seeing M out of her comfort zone in a dusty old manor with two macho mean, one of whom doesn't even get her name right!
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Never got that, thought it was her real name, hence why she is called M. After all, in CR doesn't Bond allude to it, saying 'I always thought M was a random generated name, I never thought' before she cuts him off. But then I thought they might have known each other before, I don't know the film had lost me way before that point.
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  • Hold CommandHold Command LondonPosts: 376MI6 Agent
    Never got that, thought it was her real name, hence why she is called M. After all, in CR doesn't Bond allude to it, saying 'I always thought M was a random generated name, I never thought' before she cuts him off. But then I thought they might have known each other before, I don't know the film had lost me way before that point.

    'M' cannot stand for Emma ?:)
  • BIG TAMBIG TAM Wrexham, North Wales, UK.Posts: 773MI6 Agent
    When Bond introduces her as M, Kinkaid misunderstands it as him saying Em, short for Emma. There was the odd chuckle at my screening, including me. I thought it was a nice touch
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Never got that, thought it was her real name, hence why she is called M. After all, in CR doesn't Bond allude to it, saying 'I always thought M was a random generated name, I never thought' before she cuts him off. But then I thought they might have known each other before, I don't know the film had lost me way before that point.

    'M' cannot stand for Emma ?:)

    No it can't 'stand' for it, but it's wordplay like 'Em' and 'Emma'...

    Or not, who knows.
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Indeed M is mistakenly called 'Emma' as Kincade misheard Bond introduce her.

    Her real name is Barbara Mawdsley, hence M.
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    minigeff wrote:
    Indeed M is mistakenly called 'Emma' as Kincade misheard Bond introduce her.

    Her real name is Barbara Mawdsley, hence M.

    Yeah, this was established in the Benson novels and tie ins he did.
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  • jon_1ukjon_1uk Posts: 674MI6 Agent
    BIG TAM wrote:
    When Bond introduces her as M, Kinkaid misunderstands it as him saying Em, short for Emma. There was the odd chuckle at my screening, including me. I thought it was a nice touch

    yup this is how i saw it.
    he mistook M as Em short for emma ....
    And as far as i am aware "M" is the ist letter of her sir name
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  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    jon_1uk wrote:
    BIG TAM wrote:
    When Bond introduces her as M, Kinkaid misunderstands it as him saying Em, short for Emma. There was the odd chuckle at my screening, including me. I thought it was a nice touch

    yup this is how i saw it.
    he mistook M as Em short for emma ....
    And as far as i am aware "M" is the ist letter of her sir name

    Me too
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  • A7ceA7ce Birmingham, EnglandPosts: 656MI6 Agent
    What Big Tam said
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    Thanks for the responses guys. Looks like the majority think the same, and I pretty much thought this too. Thanks for clearing that up!
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • SolarisSolaris Blackpool, UKPosts: 308MI6 Agent
    Is Dench's M still Barbara Mawdsley? that was the name given to her "evil queen of numbers" M of Brosnan's movies but is she still the same M?. in Casino Royale the joke of "I always thought M was a randomly assigned letter..." seems to work better if M has an embarrassing first name beginning with M.
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,817MI6 Agent
    Hi Solaris,

    think of this as "alternate universe" territory, if you are into your Sci Fi. The Craig films are a restart, so everythig that happened if the previous films are a seperate framework. So yes, M in CR - Skyfall IS Barbara Mawdsley, but a different one. Her lines to Villiers about missing the Cold War imply she has been active in espoinage for a very long time, wheras The Brosnan era version of Mawdsley had to prove herself from the start.
    Ie same actress, but a different version of the same character. - I think!


    Re Kincade's reaction to M's name, I have a friend at work called Ema, I call her "Ems's" for short. If someone was not paying attention , I suppose they could assume I am calling her "M".
    This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
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