Bond and Eve - Did They or Didn't They - Spoiler

Barry NelsonBarry Nelson ChicagoPosts: 1,508MI6 Agent
I am curious as to what others believe happened when Eve showed up at Bond's hotel room and helped him clean up. He starts to unbutton her blouse, but she stops him and continues giving him a "close shave". My take-away was that nothing happened after that. Reading some reviews it appears others think something did happen. Would make a difference as to how one would interpret their future relationship.

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  • LukeLuke USAPosts: 99MI6 Agent
    I assumed they did at first, but as soon as her character was revealed at the end of the film, my memory jogged and I couldn't remember if they had done the dirty or not.

    My guess is, only Eve and Bond know for sure :007)
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  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    edited November 2012
    I'd like to believe they didn't do the dirty. They are fond of each other but no that fond, they love to flirt with each other.

    From memory, Moneypenny says to Bond in Goldeneye, "As I recall, you never had me" or words to that effect. There's also the "Close, but no cigar" line in The World Is Not Enough. By referring to the past I'd like to assume Naomie Harris is the same Moneypenny as portrayed by Lois Maxwell, Caroline Bliss and Samantha Bond, not a new re-booted alternate universe version where things can be different.
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    I think nothing happened simply because otherwise they would have showed it!!
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  • DrydenDryden UKPosts: 131MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    I think nothing happened simply because otherwise they would have showed it!!

    Wrong - I suspect they deliberately did not show it so as to keep us guessing and maintain the element of mystery to their relationship.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,761Chief of Staff
    Dryden wrote:
    welshboy78 wrote:
    I think nothing happened simply because otherwise they would have showed it!!

    Wrong - I suspect they deliberately did not show it so as to keep us guessing and maintain the element of mystery to their relationship.

    I'm with you Dryden...it kinda follows on from when Connery/Maxwell played the roles and they decided that they would play their scenes together as though they had once gone out together...
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  • Mr BeechMr Beech Florida, USAPosts: 1,749MI6 Agent
    Dryden wrote:
    welshboy78 wrote:
    I think nothing happened simply because otherwise they would have showed it!!

    Wrong - I suspect they deliberately did not show it so as to keep us guessing and maintain the element of mystery to their relationship.

    Agreed. I think we are forever supposed to wonder what the nature of their relationship was or is in the moments we never saw.
  • zaphodzaphod Posts: 1,183MI6 Agent
    Who cares ? So little evident chemistry. I hope we don't have to put up with years of ' did they or did't they' or even worse ' will they or won't they' yawn...
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    zaphod wrote:
    Who cares ? So little evident chemistry. I hope we don't have to put up with years of ' did they or did't they' or even worse ' will they or won't they' yawn...

    I do. ;)

    I like the fact we don't know, and for me, it makes a great discussion -{

    I also think they have good chemistry, and will be good to see where it goes in Bond 24! :007)
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,870Chief of Staff
    Lexi wrote:
    zaphod wrote:
    Who cares ? So little evident chemistry. I hope we don't have to put up with years of ' did they or did't they' or even worse ' will they or won't they' yawn...

    I do. ;)

    I like the fact we don't know, and for me, it makes a great discussion -{

    I also think they have good chemistry, and will be good to see where it goes in Bond 24! :007)

    Couldn't agree more!
  • Barry NelsonBarry Nelson ChicagoPosts: 1,508MI6 Agent
    I agree they have chemistry, Naomie Harris has a cute smile and a sparkle in her eye, much like Samantha Bond had. Assuming Harris stays on to play the role, she will provide Craig with some nice verbal teasing.
  • Mr BeechMr Beech Florida, USAPosts: 1,749MI6 Agent
    I actually didn't think they had good chemistry, at least not in the way that I would have believed there was much sexual or romantic tension. I think they bounced the wit back and forth well, which is why I was glad she ended up being Moneypenny in the end instead of a Bond girl fling.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,761Chief of Staff
    Assuming Harris stays on to play the role, she will provide Craig with some nice verbal teasing.

    Well...she has signed on for the next one...but I know that's no guarantee...
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  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    Actually, when they didn´t show if something hapenned or not, I knew she was Moneypenny.

    IMO, they did. There´s a curve in her character; first she´s in the field, and does what he does, driving cars, shooting guns, and all the rest...Then she realises she´s no good for field work (and implied IMO, one night stands). But she will miss everything.
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,307MI6 Agent
    I am curious as to what others believe happened when Eve showed up at Bond's hotel room and helped him clean up. He starts to unbutton her blouse, but she stops him and continues giving him a "close shave". My take-away was that nothing happened after that. Reading some reviews it appears others think something did happen. Would make a difference as to how one would interpret their future relationship.

    In the scene immediately following the shave - when Bond and Eve are in the casino in Macau - they're bantering thru their headsets about hands and how four hands are better than two - suggesting that they used their hands quite a bit the night before.

    Its obviously left purposely vague since you're never supposed to be 100% sure whether Bond and Moneypenny ever got it on. That's something best left to each viewer's imagination and the film keeps it just vague and open-ended enough to let each person come to their own conclusion.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I agree. Lexi nailed it.
    Barbel wrote:
    Lexi wrote:
    zaphod wrote:
    Who cares ? So little evident chemistry. I hope we don't have to put up with years of ' did they or did't they' or even worse ' will they or won't they' yawn...

    I do. ;)

    I like the fact we don't know, and for me, it makes a great discussion -{

    I also think they have good chemistry, and will be good to see where it goes in Bond 24! :007)

    Couldn't agree more!
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  • Agent007jamestAgent007jamest usaPosts: 163MI6 Agent
    I agree. Lexi nailed it.
    Barbel wrote:
    Lexi wrote:

    I do. ;)

    I like the fact we don't know, and for me, it makes a great discussion -{

    I also think they have good chemistry, and will be good to see where it goes in Bond 24! :007)

    Couldn't agree more!
    actually I think Bond was the one who nailed it! :v
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I should have seen that coming! (Uh oh!)
    I agree. Lexi nailed it.
    Barbel wrote:

    Couldn't agree more!
    actually I think Bond was the one who nailed it! :v
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  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    zaphod wrote:
    Who cares ? So little evident chemistry. I hope we don't have to put up with years of ' did they or did't they' or even worse ' will they or won't they' yawn...

    Sorry but can't agree. I thought the chemistry was very evident between them and set up (hopefully) the future flirting - couldn't think of another word - very nicely.
  • zaphodzaphod Posts: 1,183MI6 Agent
    Oh well, just me then :s
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Worse, could it be to appease those of the can't see a white guy get on with a black woman mentality? Okay, it happened back in 1985 with AVTAK but that's the last time and in some ways we're less enlightened as a society than then...

    Didn't fireworks go off to sort of signify the deed being done?
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  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    Worse, could it be to appease those of the can't see a white guy get on with a black woman mentality? Okay, it happened back in 1985 with AVTAK but that's the last time and in some ways we're less enlightened as a society than then...

    Didn't fireworks go off to sort of signify the deed being done?

    Never in all my days could I see this as being the reason tbh.

    Just think that it's to keep us guessing as to what happened (if anything) and to help with the future teasing / flirting with each other.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,870Chief of Staff
    Worse, could it be to appease those of the can't see a white guy get on with a black woman mentality? Okay, it happened back in 1985 with AVTAK but that's the last time

    I know some people like to pretend that DAD never happened in 2002, but this is taking it too far! :))
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Worse, could it be to appease those of the can't see a white guy get on with a black woman mentality? Okay, it happened back in 1985 with AVTAK but that's the last time

    I know some people like to pretend that DAD never happened in 2002, but this is taking it too far! :))

    LMAO!!!!! I actually FINALLY got the blu ray box set on the weekend and my missus would only let me watch one if she could choose the film, guess what she chose lol . yup DAD!! :#
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  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Dryden wrote:
    welshboy78 wrote:
    I think nothing happened simply because otherwise they would have showed it!!

    Wrong - I suspect they deliberately did not show it so as to keep us guessing and maintain the element of mystery to their relationship.

    I'm with you Dryden...it kinda follows on from when Connery/Maxwell played the roles and they decided that they would play their scenes together as though they had once gone out together...

    That's pretty interesting. I've read a lot about and watched many of the Bond DVD featurettes but never really paid attention to whatever Connery and Maxwell had to say about their roles, the assumptions they've taken with their characters, etc. Of all the Bonds I surprise myself for neglecting that since I've been interested about the Bond actors' insight on their interpretations from Lazenby onwards.

    My assumptions on the Bond/Moneypenny relationship just from observation, including Connery and Maxwell's turn, is the irony of how Bond beds women indiscriminately to only tease and hold out on Moneypenny, whose desperation is even hinted at by Tanaka saying that giving Bond a bath is something Moneypenny would very much like to do (but hasn't).
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  • HalconHalcon Zen TemplePosts: 487MI6 Agent
    In Skyfall, we see a nice 'wink' to To Catch a Thief, where fireworks go off to insinuate that the 'deed' was done...

    ...unless it wasn't a wink and it was purely incidental... :)
    oh well, I too thought there was plenty of chemistry between the too, and Mendes nailed it again with Harris' interpretation of Moneypenny (attractive enough to merit a second 'up and down' of her figure!), but not quite a femme fatale aka bond girl.
  • cdsdsscdsdss JakartaPosts: 144MI6 Agent
    I like to think that they did...if only that it would be a terrible waste of a Naomie Harris :))
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