Casino Royale Cardigan??

DoubleGunGuyDoubleGunGuy Posts: 6MI6 Agent
in James Bond Memorabilia, Collecting & Props
Hello All,

I know this subject has been touched on before in previous threads, but I was wondering if anyone ended up figuring out what brand the shawl collar cardigan that was worn by Craig in the balcony scenes with Mathis was? I thought it could possibly be sunspel, but I don't think they have ever done shawl collar cardigans. Could it possibly be Turnbull and Asser or Ted Baker? I know Ted Baker has done some in the past and present and I am pretty sure T&A has too. Brioni maybe? I know I wouldn't be able to get the exact one because of how long ago this was, but any info on the brand would be great?

Thank You!

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  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    Been wondering about this myself ... & is it the same cardigan he's wearing on the yacht in Venice too??
  • don pdon p Posts: 607MI6 Agent
    Ens007 wrote:
    Been wondering about this myself ... & is it the same cardigan he's wearing on the yacht in Venice too??

    yes. i think both are the same, but dont know who makes them
  • jared_nomakjared_nomak Posts: 1,944MI6 Agent
    Tom Ford makes them and it's about £1000 they still make it but I think the buttons are different now
    Ross
  • redsleighdownredsleighdown USAPosts: 450MI6 Agent
    Tom Ford made the QoS cardi, not CR. the CR cardigan (or maybe cardigans) are rumored to be John Smedley or Ted Baker.
  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    jared_nomak wrote:
    Tom Ford makes them and it's about £1000 they still make it but I think the buttons are different now
    Ross

    News to me.

    I had Smedley down for them, but never seen anything confirmed sadly.
  • jared_nomakjared_nomak Posts: 1,944MI6 Agent
    Sorry I was thinking the balcony scene with Mathis was in QoS
    Ross
  • DoubleGunGuyDoubleGunGuy Posts: 6MI6 Agent
    I am pretty sure it is Ted Baker, as I have never seen (at least to my knowledge) John Smedley make a shawl collar cardigan, but Ted Baker still does even to this day. Could be wrong though. Was hoping that with all the talented bond sleuths on this site that someone would have confirmed something.
  • don pdon p Posts: 607MI6 Agent
    yeh.. why hasnt it been identified.. get to it folks lol...
  • DoubleGunGuyDoubleGunGuy Posts: 6MI6 Agent
    Haha, it is probably too late by now. I imagine too many years have passed. I was just stating that I was surprised no one had figued it out on here.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,321MI6 Agent
    DoubleGunGuy wrote:
    I am pretty sure it is Ted Baker, as I have never seen (at least to my knowledge) John Smedley make a shawl collar cardigan, but Ted Baker still does even to this day. Could be wrong though. Was hoping that with all the talented bond sleuths on this site that someone would have confirmed something.

    I agree, Smedley does not have a high output of models per season. If it was Smedley everybody would have seen it somewhere long the line. Ted Baker products have a vast and ever changing lineup so more likely (though of course it could be something totally different).

    I would love it if we could set up an interview with people like Hemming, Frogley etc to finally put questions to bed such as this item and also the Montenegro Tie etc (I know its been said Brioni however other people say they saw it in Bakers lineup etc etc)
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  • KittlemeierKittlemeier U.S.Posts: 432MI6 Agent
    I'd love to know about the cardigan from the PTS in CR. The one under the peacoat.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,321MI6 Agent
    Kittlemeier wrote:
    I'd love to know about the cardigan from the PTS in CR. The one under the peacoat.

    If I remember (not 100%) he wore the same cardigan to a few CR Premiers, I believe the collar was unique hence you could tell it was the same as under the peacoat - however the make is another story!!!

    Any mysteries in QoS?? I dont think there really is??? Were the Kazan leather gloves ever confirmed?
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  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Kittlemeier wrote:
    I'd love to know about the cardigan from the PTS in CR. The one under the peacoat.

    If I remember (not 100%) he wore the same cardigan to a few CR Premiers, I believe the collar was unique hence you could tell it was the same as under the peacoat - however the make is another story!!!

    You're spot on Welshboy - there's some better pics of it here (post 18): http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/34672/cr-cardigan/
  • KittlemeierKittlemeier U.S.Posts: 432MI6 Agent
    Yep, I was the one who posted those pics. :))
  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    Kittlemeier wrote:
    Yep, I was the one who posted those pics. :))

    Good man! -{

    But for a bonus ... who makes it??! :p
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,321MI6 Agent
    Wonder if the rectangle knit around the button holes is a regular feature with the "unknown" brand!

    Certainly chunky as hell which rules out people like Smedley etc
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  • Stevie53Stevie53 Posts: 39MI6 Agent
    I would hazard a guess that given the actors and producers penchant for Tom Ford, the balcony scene looks very much to me as the famous Tom Ford Shawl collar cardigan aka the "Steve McQueen" which made we saw again in QoS. The High colar cardigan, likened more to Count Dracula, I would also take a punt on being aTom Ford design. Just my thought.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,321MI6 Agent
    Did Tom Ford have his own label back then??
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  • Stevie53Stevie53 Posts: 39MI6 Agent
    He left Gucci in 2004....so maybe
  • JBT0077JBT0077 GermanyPosts: 236MI6 Agent
    He left Gucci in 2004, but the first men collection of his own brand was released in 2007, So in ce definitely no item are from Tom Ford
  • DoubleGunGuyDoubleGunGuy Posts: 6MI6 Agent
    Is there a possibility it could be Armani? They did supply a jacket for the film...
  • InfernorhythmInfernorhythm Los AngelesPosts: 88MI6 Agent
    Wasn't it a Sunspel cardigan? I remember hearing that.
    "You're both, what's the expression? Damaged goods."
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,321MI6 Agent
    Nope, Sunspel only provided Riviera V neck T (White), Grey round neck and Riviera Navy Polo
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  • StrangewaysStrangeways London, UKPosts: 1,469MI6 Agent
    I bought a great alternative back in 2006 from the M&S website.
    I wore it loads, with a white shirt of courtse and chinos.
    Don't get to put it on that much these days...might wear it at Christrmas!
  • don pdon p Posts: 607MI6 Agent
    well ???

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mens-FCUK-French-Connection-Shawl-Collar-Cardigan-Wool-Rich-/261050888374?pt=UK_Men_s_Jumpers_Cardigans&vti=Size%09L&hash=item3cc7d870b6
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,321MI6 Agent
    don p wrote:
    well ???

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mens-FCUK-French-Connection-Shawl-Collar-Cardigan-Wool-Rich-/261050888374?pt=UK_Men_s_Jumpers_Cardigans&vti=Size%09L&hash=item3cc7d870b6

    Sold by EON clothing lol
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  • redsleighdownredsleighdown USAPosts: 450MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Nope, Sunspel only provided Riviera V neck T (White), Grey round neck and Riviera Navy Polo

    Some are saying the white and black crew necks at the end could have been by sunspel too
  • toutbruntoutbrun Washington, USAPosts: 1,501MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    don p wrote:
    well ???

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mens-FCUK-French-Connection-Shawl-Collar-Cardigan-Wool-Rich-/261050888374?pt=UK_Men_s_Jumpers_Cardigans&vti=Size%09L&hash=item3cc7d870b6

    Sold by EON clothing lol

    LOL
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