AVTAK Villains

ZorinIndustriesZorinIndustries United StatesPosts: 837MI6 Agent
After watching AVTAK for the millionth time, I've realized that it features some of the franchise's best villains to date in Walken and Grace Jones. This evil duo boosts the film in my rankings, along with an incredible John Barry score. What do you guys think of the Walken/Jones partnership?
"Better luck next time... slugheads!"

1. GoldenEye 2. Goldfinger 3. Skyfall 4. OHMSS 5. TWINE

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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,868Chief of Staff
    John Barry's score is superb- his action theme (heard in "Snow Job" during the PTS and "Golden Gate Fight" at the climax) is one of his best. The main theme works nicely played softly on flute for the softer moments.
    Can't agree with you re Walken (great actor though he is) and Jones (great presence though she has) - there are many better villain/henchman (henchwoman) characters in the series.
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    After watching AVTAK for the millionth time, I've realized that it features some of the franchise's best villains to date in Walken and Grace Jones. This evil duo boosts the film in my rankings, along with an incredible John Barry score. What do you guys think of the Walken/Jones partnership?

    I agree with both the fantastic score, and the villains.

    I'm not too fussed about Mayday though, although she was interesting. But my real love goes to Zorin, who is IMO the single best villain in the series. Brilliantly acted, memorable, and a pure psycho. So many great things about this film.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • ZorinIndustriesZorinIndustries United StatesPosts: 837MI6 Agent
    Jarvio wrote:
    After watching AVTAK for the millionth time, I've realized that it features some of the franchise's best villains to date in Walken and Grace Jones. This evil duo boosts the film in my rankings, along with an incredible John Barry score. What do you guys think of the Walken/Jones partnership?

    I agree with both the fantastic score, and the villains.

    I'm not too fussed about Mayday though, although she was interesting. But my real love goes to Zorin, who is IMO the single best villain in the series. Brilliantly acted, memorable, and a pure psycho. So many great things about this film.

    Once Stacey whacks Scarpine with the extinguisher, the look on Walken's face is remarkable. The way he rips the axe off the wall while John Barry's score kicks in... gives me chills every time.
    "Better luck next time... slugheads!"

    1. GoldenEye 2. Goldfinger 3. Skyfall 4. OHMSS 5. TWINE
  • jeffchjeffch Posts: 163MI6 Agent
    The way he rips the axe off the wall while John Barry's score kicks in... gives me chills every time.

    I've always loved that part too. Also the way he laughs right before falling to his death, great stuff. IMO Walken saves that film from being the worst of the RM Bonds.

    Grace Jones I could take or leave. Her love scene with Moore was awkward at best. It was a little unbelievable how she immediately turned to "good" at the end of the film, but done much better than how Jaws' turn was handled at the end of MR. Still I love the look she gives Zorin right before the detonator goes off.
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    edited January 2013
    the villains are absolutely top notch. I even have a b&w promo photo of Zorin and Mayday on my desk. hehe


    ps- I enjoyed your line "After watching AVTAK for the millionth time..."
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Yes, I believe the fact that AVTAK featured these villains was used as a marketing thrust on the film's teaser Mayday/Bond poster: "Has James Bond finally met his match?" Max Zorin and Max Largo from Never Say Never Again are surely the biggest duo of loonies ever faced by secret agent James Bond 007!
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • ausbondfanausbondfan Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    I'm surprised at the love for AVTAK most fans seem to really dislike that one, I watched it recently and really enjoyed it. Definitely Roger's best of the 80's. May Day is very cool for a villain and Zorin was pure evil. Killing all of his workers and leaving May Day to her death made him the ultimate villain.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I thought C Walken and Grace Jones made terrific villains. -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ZorinIndustriesZorinIndustries United StatesPosts: 837MI6 Agent
    ausbondfan wrote:
    I'm surprised at the love for AVTAK most fans seem to really dislike that one, I watched it recently and really enjoyed it. Definitely Roger's best of the 80's. May Day is very cool for a villain and Zorin was pure evil. Killing all of his workers and leaving May Day to her death made him the ultimate villain.

    Great point! This film cracks my top 10 Bond films at no. 10 and i think it's very under-appreciated.
    "Better luck next time... slugheads!"

    1. GoldenEye 2. Goldfinger 3. Skyfall 4. OHMSS 5. TWINE
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    It's a shame that Walkens Career went Downhill after AVTAK
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • TheundeadkennedyTheundeadkennedy Posts: 292MI6 Agent
    It's a shame that Walkens Career went Downhill after AVTAK

    I really hope you're joking
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    It's a shame that Walkens Career went Downhill after AVTAK

    I really hope you're joking

    Me too. It only got better. Great actor!

    See him in True Romance and in Nick of Time for proof of this - an acting masterclass - like he says "words are little bombs!"
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    It's a shame that Walkens Career went Downhill after AVTAK

    I really hope you're joking

    Maybe I did take it too far :))
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    ausbondfan wrote:
    I'm surprised at the love for AVTAK most fans seem to really dislike that one, I watched it recently and really enjoyed it. Definitely Roger's best of the 80's. May Day is very cool for a villain and Zorin was pure evil. Killing all of his workers and leaving May Day to her death made him the ultimate villain.

    Great point! This film cracks my top 10 Bond films at no. 10 and i think it's very under-appreciated.

    Yep, AVTAK is just a great bond film from start to finish. It tends to be seen as one of the weaker ones along with TMWTGG, DAF, MR, and DAD, and IMO AVTAK is by far the best of these 5.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • Matt_Double_OMatt_Double_O Posts: 18MI6 Agent
    Great to hear some love for AVTAK. Agree with all the above. Zorin is CRAZY!!! Mayday def one of the most memorable female villians (even if she does turn nice)!!
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