Interestigly (to me, anyway), Drax in the following film gets much better dialogue than Stromberg. He gets some zingers that are worthy of Bond: "Look after Mr. Bond. See that some harm comes to him". I love that line!
It's also as if they kept the best villain lines for Drax.
Michael was absolutely brilliant in that role!
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Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
Interestigly (to me, anyway), Drax in the following film gets much better dialogue than Stromberg. He gets some zingers that are worthy of Bond: "Look after Mr. Bond. See that some harm comes to him". I love that line!
It's also as if they kept the best villain lines for Drax.
Michael was absolutely brilliant in that role!
Very much agreed. He may even be my favourite villain of the lot in the films.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
Interestigly (to me, anyway), Drax in the following film gets much better dialogue than Stromberg. He gets some zingers that are worthy of Bond: "Look after Mr. Bond. See that some harm comes to him". I love that line!
It's also as if they kept the best villain lines for Drax.
Michael was absolutely brilliant in that role!
Very much agreed. He may even be my favourite villain of the lot in the films.
That would leave other villains a bit...desolated .
I think C Wood has said he imagined Drax as a modern
Oscar Wilde character. Also in his book. The entrance
Of Drax , is almost what we got with Silva. With Drax
Walking towards Bond talking across a long room.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
I think C Wood has said he imagined Drax as a modern
Oscar Wilde character. Also in his book. The entrance
Of Drax , is almost what we got with Silva. With Drax
Walking towards Bond talking across a long room.
Yes, and he even adapts one of his quotes in fact.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
He certainly uses the same tailor. Drax has all the good humour of Blofeld ( DAF) with some
Of the menace of Blofeld (OHMSS) and a super secret base like Blofeld (YOLT) .......... Apart from
That, I notice no resemblance.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Underutilised? So he could fly the helicopter himself instead of Naomi? He's the boss... they do tend to do as they please, there's no one from HR to turn up at your desk to assess your place in the company.
Maybe offscreen he indulges in the Chandler-eque pasttime of watching shark porn. Not sure those webbed fingers would be advantage though...
they should have a scene in the next movie where WaltzBlofeld picks his Nehru jacket up from the drycleaners then argues "nonono that's not mine, you must have mixed me up with some other megalomaniac supervillain". Maybe Mike Myers could be standing behind him in line, getting impatient.
He's the boss... they do tend to do as they please, there's no one from HR to turn up at your desk to assess your place in the company.
chewing up scenery is part of the job description for principal Bond villains, I think that's what people are arguing. Scenery chewing bad guys is part of what I pay money for when I go to see a new Bond movie.
But the idea of Human Resources in an evil organisation would be worth exploring in a new movie plot. Maybe the scientists manage to swim back from the exploded helicopter wreckage and file a harassment complaint with Stromberg's HR department? Stromberg must have a button under his desk marked "HR Dept", drop the whole department into the shark tank.
But the idea of Human Resources in an evil organisation would be worth exploring in a new movie plot. Maybe the scientists manage to swim back from the exploded helicopter wreckage and file a harassment complaint with Stromberg's HR department? Stromberg must have a button under his desk marked "HR Dept", drop the whole department into the shark tank.
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I don't know why that made me laugh so much.
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Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
Does Christopher Wood mention that bit about Hugo Drax being like Oscar Wilde in his Bond film memoir, James Bond, The Spy I Loved (2006), TP? I have a copy and have been working my way through it.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
He certainly uses the same tailor. Drax has all the good humour of Blofeld ( DAF) with some
Of the menace of Blofeld (OHMSS) and a super secret base like Blofeld (YOLT) .......... Apart from
That, I notice no resemblance.
)
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
Maybe it's just me but I kind of like how Stromberg is kept a mystery of sorts. Not knowing why he wants to destroy the world and live in the sea is kind of what makes him intriguing. And I like how the webbed hands are never actually talked about but just shown. You don't need an explanation for the villain's flaws all the time, or do we?
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I think at that point of the Bond movies, the focus shifted to the flash and action and anything character related was reserved for Bond's relationship with Anya since that development was central to the story. I wonder if Cubby, Christopher Wood and Lewis Gilbert were aware how flat Jurgen's presence seemed in the final edit, thinking perhaps that he was just a placeholder for the requisite element of the main villain since Blofeld was dropped earlier.
Looking back at the earlier Bonds right up to TMWTGG when the treatment for the villains were more thoughtfully done, a simple remedy would have been a longer occasion when Bond and Stromberg first met, to more thoroughly discourse the "why's" of the villain. A great example was the build-up in DN before even seeing him, then the dinner when his plot and perspectives were fully revealed in a tense conversation.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
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Michael was absolutely brilliant in that role!
Very much agreed. He may even be my favourite villain of the lot in the films.
Oscar Wilde character. Also in his book. The entrance
Of Drax , is almost what we got with Silva. With Drax
Walking towards Bond talking across a long room.
Yes, and he even adapts one of his quotes in fact.
Of the menace of Blofeld (OHMSS) and a super secret base like Blofeld (YOLT) .......... Apart from
That, I notice no resemblance.
Maybe offscreen he indulges in the Chandler-eque pasttime of watching shark porn. Not sure those webbed fingers would be advantage though...
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But the idea of Human Resources in an evil organisation would be worth exploring in a new movie plot. Maybe the scientists manage to swim back from the exploded helicopter wreckage and file a harassment complaint with Stromberg's HR department? Stromberg must have a button under his desk marked "HR Dept", drop the whole department into the shark tank.
I don't know why that made me laugh so much.
Does Christopher Wood mention that bit about Hugo Drax being like Oscar Wilde in his Bond film memoir, James Bond, The Spy I Loved (2006), TP? I have a copy and have been working my way through it.
Has stuck in my head.
Oh, I see. Thanks, TP, I've had the book for some years now, but I gather its rather scarce these days.
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Yes, Stromberg was underused, could have been a Goldfinger-like persona, but had too little to do, despite the decent plot.
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Looking back at the earlier Bonds right up to TMWTGG when the treatment for the villains were more thoughtfully done, a simple remedy would have been a longer occasion when Bond and Stromberg first met, to more thoroughly discourse the "why's" of the villain. A great example was the build-up in DN before even seeing him, then the dinner when his plot and perspectives were fully revealed in a tense conversation.