Convince Me of Craig

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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    I used to despise DC as Bond purely because I was expecting Pierce to be allowed another roll of the dice to try and end on a high note and so when I seen Casino Royale for the fist time I just couldn't accept Craig as Bond at all. Now I really do like him in the role and although I don't re-watch his films all that much, 2/3 of them are fantastic (QoS is a little offbeat). But yeah I have now come to think he is the best actor to play Bond....but not quite the best bond. I think he will continue to grow on me the more Bonds he makes and frankly I can't wait for #24 but I am a bit wary....is it still to early for him to start phoning in his performance??

    I don't think that Craig's capable of phoning in a performance - he's too good an actor for that. I think Craig gives James Bond 100% of his effort as an actor and it shows up on screen. He really lives the James Bond character construct.
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • DieAnotherDayDieAnotherDay Glasgow, ScotlandPosts: 460MI6 Agent
    I used to despise DC as Bond purely because I was expecting Pierce to be allowed another roll of the dice to try and end on a high note and so when I seen Casino Royale for the fist time I just couldn't accept Craig as Bond at all. Now I really do like him in the role and although I don't re-watch his films all that much, 2/3 of them are fantastic (QoS is a little offbeat). But yeah I have now come to think he is the best actor to play Bond....but not quite the best bond. I think he will continue to grow on me the more Bonds he makes and frankly I can't wait for #24 but I am a bit wary....is it still to early for him to start phoning in his performance??

    I don't think that Craig's capable of phoning in a performance - he's too good an actor for that. I think Craig gives James Bond 100% of his effort as an actor and it shows up on screen. He really lives the James Bond character construct.

    Yeah, I hope we get another CR/SF type if film for Bond 24 and not a QoS-esque, rapid fire piece of nonsense.
    ....and the best he ever managed was a sermon on the mount.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    a QoS-esque, rapid fire piece of nonsense.
    I liked that rapid fire piece of nonsense a lot better than his other two. Raw, I think is the word. -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I used to despise DC as Bond purely because I was expecting Pierce to be allowed another roll of the dice to try and end on a high note and so when I seen Casino Royale for the fist time I just couldn't accept Craig as Bond at all. Now I really do like him in the role and although I don't re-watch his films all that much, 2/3 of them are fantastic (QoS is a little offbeat). But yeah I have now come to think he is the best actor to play Bond....but not quite the best bond. I think he will continue to grow on me the more Bonds he makes and frankly I can't wait for #24 but I am a bit wary....is it still to early for him to start phoning in his performance??

    I don't think that Craig's capable of phoning in a performance - he's too good an actor for that. I think Craig gives James Bond 100% of his effort as an actor and it shows up on screen. He really lives the James Bond character construct.
    Absolutely correct!
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • DieAnotherDayDieAnotherDay Glasgow, ScotlandPosts: 460MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    a QoS-esque, rapid fire piece of nonsense.
    I liked that rapid fire piece of nonsense a lot better than his other two. Raw, I think is the word. -{

    Meh, I'm one of the clan who feels the directing is terrible. Just my personal opinion of course but many of the action scenes give me a headache just because of how fast paced and quickly edited they are. Even though I've seen that film about a dozen times I still struggle to follow some scenes; give me CR any day....ahh Martin Campbell, now there's a man who knows how to make a Bond film.
    ....and the best he ever managed was a sermon on the mount.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Agree 100% DieAnotherDay. -{ The directing is terrible.
    The Producers seem to of given over Total control of all
    aspects of the film to the director. He chose the titles and
    Theme music, as well as bringing in many of the "Bourne "
    film crew.
    I'll admit many Like and indeed Love it But I can't warm to
    it and lord knows I've tried. The best I can say about it is that
    it's not as bad as NSNA. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • DieAnotherDayDieAnotherDay Glasgow, ScotlandPosts: 460MI6 Agent
    I don't remember too much about NSNA tbh, except the femme fatale getting blown to smithereens by a pen or something. Anyway back to QoS, yes they didn't even bring Danny Kleinman back to do the title sequence which I though was a real shame. GE - CR title sequences were all outstanding in my opinion and it was lucky he came back for SF.
    Darn you Marc Forster :007)
    ....and the best he ever managed was a sermon on the mount.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I'm a huge fan of D Kleinman -{ and think
    they should keep him on contract to do ALL the
    Bond titles. His work for Skyfall is stunning. I like
    to think the Title sequence is like a Books dust cover,
    and nobody does it better, In my Opinion. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • RogueAgent007RogueAgent007 Corn-fed central USPosts: 154MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    a QoS-esque, rapid fire piece of nonsense.
    I liked that rapid fire piece of nonsense a lot better than his other two. Raw, I think is the word. -{

    Meh, I'm one of the clan who feels the directing is terrible. Just my personal opinion of course but many of the action scenes give me a headache just because of how fast paced and quickly edited they are. Even though I've seen that film about a dozen times I still struggle to follow some scenes; give me CR any day....ahh Martin Campbell, now there's a man who knows how to make a Bond film.

    Yeah, I think that may be where some of my angst toward Craig comes from. He may be as good an actor as everyone's saying, but all I've seen him in is Bond.(I don't watch Rated R movies) And I don't like his portrayal at all. But that could be the way it's been written I suppose. Still don't like it, but maybe I shouldn't be so hard on DC.

    It just seems that there is no more levity, no fun anymore. Bond is so dour all the time and I don't like it. But, I suppose it's like the phenomenon where the quarterback gets blamed for a teams failures, and the crowd screams for his replacement without considering the receivers dropping the ball or the O-line missing blocks.

    Like I said before, I'll keep giving him the benefit of the doubt in hopes the last three movies are leading up to something resembling the Bond I love. But right now, something's out of balance with Craig's Bond.
    Beg your pardon, forgot to knock...
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,868Chief of Staff
    ....ahh Martin Campbell, now there's a man who knows how to make a Bond film.

    Indeed. Messrs Wilson & Broccoli would do well to give him the call once again.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,868Chief of Staff
    I'm a huge fan of D Kleinman -{ and think
    they should keep him on contract to do ALL the
    Bond titles. His work for Skyfall is stunning. I like
    to think the Title sequence is like a Books dust cover,
    and nobody does it better, In my Opinion. :D

    +1 Thunderpussy -{
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    I liked that rapid fire piece of nonsense a lot better than his other two. Raw, I think is the word. -{

    Meh, I'm one of the clan who feels the directing is terrible. Just my personal opinion of course but many of the action scenes give me a headache just because of how fast paced and quickly edited they are. Even though I've seen that film about a dozen times I still struggle to follow some scenes; give me CR any day....ahh Martin Campbell, now there's a man who knows how to make a Bond film.

    Yeah, I think that may be where some of my angst toward Craig comes from. He may be as good an actor as everyone's saying, but all I've seen him in is Bond.(I don't watch Rated R movies) And I don't like his portrayal at all. But that could be the way it's been written I suppose. Still don't like it, but maybe I shouldn't be so hard on DC.

    It just seems that there is no more levity, no fun anymore. Bond is so dour all the time and I don't like it. But, I suppose it's like the phenomenon where the quarterback gets blamed for a teams failures, and the crowd screams for his replacement without considering the receivers dropping the ball or the O-line missing blocks.

    Like I said before, I'll keep giving him the benefit of the doubt in hopes the last three movies are leading up to something resembling the Bond I love. But right now, something's out of balance with Craig's Bond.

    I know this is off topic, but I was startled by your comment that you don't watch Rated R movies. May I ask why not? I'm curious because there are so many fine films you have missed if that's your filter.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I know this is off topic, but I was startled by your comment that you don't watch Rated R movies. May I ask why not?
    He's not 18 yet.

    :)) Just a guess....
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Mr_OsatoMr_Osato Posts: 398MI6 Agent
    007bond wrote:
    Mr_Osato wrote:
    I think he is doing a good job, he is just not my Bond, that is all. And I think he is lucky to work with great material as in CR and SF.

    I had to Join this site cause i've been a bit of a lurker for a few months ( this site comes of a bit Craig is not Bond to me) but comments like this just drives me up the wall.

    He's not Lucky to have material like this but The Bond Franchise and Universe is lucky to have him play Bond. Brosnan wouldn't have reached the depths Craig has with his Bond. Unlike every Bond actor before him he was a respected actor who was going to be a star without Bond. He works hard behind the scenes more so then any other actor to have played Bond. If it wasn't for him actors like Eva Green, Ralph Fiennes, Ben Wilshaw, Javier Bardem wouldn't have touched a Bond film. Sam Mendes (a oscar winning director) wouldn't have directed a Bond film. His Bond films are most critical acclaimed since Connery early efforts and the most watched. He has the biggest Grossing Bond film which has won ton of awards.

    He might not be your Bond but to dismiss him with a simple "He's lucky to have the material" is a crock of ****.

    Welcome!

    I never said Craig was a bad actor. What I do say is that the material Craig had to work with, is better material than Brosnan had. Can you imagine Craig working in Die another day for instance? You are as good as your material. It doesnt take a large range to play Bond. Its not bloody Shakespeare. Hell, even a non-actor like Lazenby could pull it off. In fact, I still believe I can, just give me an Aston Martin :))

    It is cause and effect, CR gave the Bond franchise a boost, that resulted in interest from guys like Mendes, who is a terrific director. Than again, Tarantino is a fantastic director also, and he wanted to do CR with Brosnan. So go figure. Tarantino never got the chance as we all know.

    Like I said, you are as a good as your material. Both Craig and Brosnan are good actors. I prefer Brosnan to play Bond, since he looked the part and has more charisma than Craig. Craig would have made a terrific villain. Just my 2 cents.
    OHMSS, FRWL, DN, GF, CR, GE, SP, YOLT, TB, TSWLM, LALD, TLD, TND, FYEO, SF, MR, TMWTGG, TWINE, OP, AVTAK, DAF, LTK, QOS, DAD

    1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Mr_Osato wrote:
    Both Craig and Brosnan are good actors. I prefer Brosnan to play Bond, since he looked the part and has more charisma than Craig. Craig would have made a terrific villain. Just my 2 cents.
    Make that 4 cents. :007)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    He's not 18 yet.
    And that actually stops him? Wow, that's not like the typical 18 year olds I know! :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Mr_Osato wrote:
    It doesnt take a large range to play Bond

    Perhaps not, but it takes a certain level of skill to play Bond well. Lazenby pulled it off okay, I guess, but I firmly believe that an already special Bond film would have been greatly improved by a more skilled actor in the role (Brosnan or Craig, for example).
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    It just seems that there is no more levity, no fun anymore. Bond is so dour all the time and I don't like it.
    Like I said before, I'll keep giving him the benefit of the doubt in hopes the last three movies are leading up to something resembling the Bond I love. But right now, something's out of balance with Craig's Bond.
    Dalton was all about 'serious' with a side of 'severe', but when he smiled, he seemed like he was genuinely smiling; when Craig smiles he looks sarcastic, or like he's about to frown again. :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Mr_OsatoMr_Osato Posts: 398MI6 Agent
    Mr_Osato wrote:
    It doesnt take a large range to play Bond

    Perhaps not, but it takes a certain level of skill to play Bond well. Lazenby pulled it off okay, I guess, but I firmly believe that an already special Bond film would have been greatly improved by a more skilled actor in the role (Brosnan or Craig, for example).

    (There goes my chance of playing Bond :# ) Fair enough, but would you agree that both Brosnan and Craig have what it takes to play a Bond well? Since they are both actors that can hold their own? In that case, I prefer the actor that looks like Bond. Brosnan -{
    OHMSS, FRWL, DN, GF, CR, GE, SP, YOLT, TB, TSWLM, LALD, TLD, TND, FYEO, SF, MR, TMWTGG, TWINE, OP, AVTAK, DAF, LTK, QOS, DAD

    1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    I know this is off topic, but I was startled by your comment that you don't watch Rated R movies. May I ask why not?
    He's not 18 yet.

    :)) Just a guess....

    BL is a corruptor of youth :))
    "...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
  • RogueAgent007RogueAgent007 Corn-fed central USPosts: 154MI6 Agent

    Meh, I'm one of the clan who feels the directing is terrible. Just my personal opinion of course but many of the action scenes give me a headache just because of how fast paced and quickly edited they are. Even though I've seen that film about a dozen times I still struggle to follow some scenes; give me CR any day....ahh Martin Campbell, now there's a man who knows how to make a Bond film.

    Yeah, I think that may be where some of my angst toward Craig comes from. He may be as good an actor as everyone's saying, but all I've seen him in is Bond.(I don't watch Rated R movies) And I don't like his portrayal at all. But that could be the way it's been written I suppose. Still don't like it, but maybe I shouldn't be so hard on DC.

    It just seems that there is no more levity, no fun anymore. Bond is so dour all the time and I don't like it. But, I suppose it's like the phenomenon where the quarterback gets blamed for a teams failures, and the crowd screams for his replacement without considering the receivers dropping the ball or the O-line missing blocks.

    Like I said before, I'll keep giving him the benefit of the doubt in hopes the last three movies are leading up to something resembling the Bond I love. But right now, something's out of balance with Craig's Bond.

    I know this is off topic, but I was startled by your comment that you don't watch Rated R movies. May I ask why not? I'm curious because there are so many fine films you have missed if that's your filter.

    Actually, I'm 38, Chris.

    BL, I made that decision years ago when it seemed that blood and guts were used as a substitute for action, nudity replaced drama to draw audiences, and foul language and potty humor became a crutch for poor/unimaginative writing. From my perspective, Films have gone further down the spiral, following what's left of society today. I watch movies to escape reality, not experience it.

    Now, I don't look down on anyone who chooses to view R rated films, that is their decision. But, I just saw too many that were offensive to me and I decided to draw a line. And, I've seen some that were cleaned up, like the Matrix Trilogy and others. I just don't feel it is entertaining to watch blood soaked gore fests, or listen to language I find offensive, or watching other people having sex.

    I'm a big fan of what isn't seen, but is suggested in a film. For instance, if a man and woman are going to have sex, I'd much rather see the looks on their faces, read their intentions, see them drop onto the bed, and then cut away, than to have a three minute sex scene. I feel that is where the artistry lies in film, that is where I truly enjoy a film, when I'm really carried away. Not when I'm shown everything, but when I get to fill in the blanks, sort of.

    Anyway, that was a bit drawn out, wasn't it? Sorry. Does that count as another rant? I really am just here to entertain Chrisisall, anyway. :))
    Beg your pardon, forgot to knock...
  • RogueAgent007RogueAgent007 Corn-fed central USPosts: 154MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    It just seems that there is no more levity, no fun anymore. Bond is so dour all the time and I don't like it.
    Like I said before, I'll keep giving him the benefit of the doubt in hopes the last three movies are leading up to something resembling the Bond I love. But right now, something's out of balance with Craig's Bond.
    Dalton was all about 'serious' with a side of 'severe', but when he smiled, he seemed like he was genuinely smiling; when Craig smiles he looks sarcastic, or like he's about to frown again. :))

    Exactly! That's been the point I've been trying to make the whole time! Thank you for reading my mind! Connery, Brosnan and Dalton could all balance it, Craig can't seem to. Whether that's the writing or the acting, I don't know. But, that's what's bothered me about DC's Bond for 8 years now. Thank you for putting my thoughts in your words, Chris.

    Here, have a Martini on me. -{
    Beg your pardon, forgot to knock...
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Mr_Osato wrote:
    Mr_Osato wrote:
    It doesnt take a large range to play Bond

    Perhaps not, but it takes a certain level of skill to play Bond well. Lazenby pulled it off okay, I guess, but I firmly believe that an already special Bond film would have been greatly improved by a more skilled actor in the role (Brosnan or Craig, for example).

    (There goes my chance of playing Bond :# ) Fair enough, but would you agree that both Brosnan and Craig have what it takes to play a Bond well? Since they are both actors that can hold their own? In that case, I prefer the actor that looks like Bond. Brosnan -{
    I agree they are both fine actors and I think it is fair to suggest that overall I think Craig's films are better due to better scripts.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    superado wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    I know this is off topic, but I was startled by your comment that you don't watch Rated R movies. May I ask why not?
    He's not 18 yet.

    :)) Just a guess....

    BL is a corruptor of youth :))
    Yes, and proud of it! :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent

    Yeah, I think that may be where some of my angst toward Craig comes from. He may be as good an actor as everyone's saying, but all I've seen him in is Bond.(I don't watch Rated R movies) And I don't like his portrayal at all. But that could be the way it's been written I suppose. Still don't like it, but maybe I shouldn't be so hard on DC.

    It just seems that there is no more levity, no fun anymore. Bond is so dour all the time and I don't like it. But, I suppose it's like the phenomenon where the quarterback gets blamed for a teams failures, and the crowd screams for his replacement without considering the receivers dropping the ball or the O-line missing blocks.

    Like I said before, I'll keep giving him the benefit of the doubt in hopes the last three movies are leading up to something resembling the Bond I love. But right now, something's out of balance with Craig's Bond.

    I know this is off topic, but I was startled by your comment that you don't watch Rated R movies. May I ask why not? I'm curious because there are so many fine films you have missed if that's your filter.

    Actually, I'm 38, Chris.

    BL, I made that decision years ago when it seemed that blood and guts were used as a substitute for action, nudity replaced drama to draw audiences, and foul language and potty humor became a crutch for poor/unimaginative writing. From my perspective, Films have gone further down the spiral, following what's left of society today. I watch movies to escape reality, not experience it.

    Now, I don't look down on anyone who chooses to view R rated films, that is their decision. But, I just saw too many that were offensive to me and I decided to draw a line. And, I've seen some that were cleaned up, like the Matrix Trilogy and others. I just don't feel it is entertaining to watch blood soaked gore fests, or listen to language I find offensive, or watching other people having sex.

    I'm a big fan of what isn't seen, but is suggested in a film. For instance, if a man and woman are going to have sex, I'd much rather see the looks on their faces, read their intentions, see them drop onto the bed, and then cut away, than to have a three minute sex scene. I feel that is where the artistry lies in film, that is where I truly enjoy a film, when I'm really carried away. Not when I'm shown everything, but when I get to fill in the blanks, sort of.

    Anyway, that was a bit drawn out, wasn't it? Sorry. Does that count as another rant? I really am just here to entertain Chrisisall, anyway. :))
    I see where you are coming from, and I applaud you for being a man of conviction. But I think it is unfortunate that you are depriving yourself of a number of very fine film experiences. In my view, not all sex and violence is gratuitous and pointless, and not all foul language is offensive. Context is everything, if you ask me. The graphic violence in films like the Saw movies is not the same as the violence depicted in Saving Private Ryan, for example. Both can be hard be hard to watch, but I submit that they serve entirely different purposes. The same can be said of the profanity used in a film like Glengarry Glen Ross as opposed to the language we hear in a movie like Bad Teacher. Again, totally different experiences. I don't raise this issue in an attempt to change your mind - I certainly would have no business doing that! I'm merely lamenting the fact that you are missing what I think are some very fine films. Perhaps some day you will feel differently.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • RogueAgent007RogueAgent007 Corn-fed central USPosts: 154MI6 Agent
    Thanks for your concern, BL, but I don't feel deprived. I've seen many very good movies since making that decision. Some were rated R before they were cleaned up for TV. I didn't notice anything lacking, which furthers my convictions.

    There is an ancient proverb that helped me make that decision: "He that is walking with wise one will become wise, but he that is having dealings with the stupid ones will fare badly.". In other words you are heavily influenced by who you spend time with. I merely chose not to spend my time with people, on screen or off, who would not encourage my sticking to my principles.

    And, now we are REALLY off topic! Sorry mods, here's an effort to return. I don't like Craig's last 2 Bond movies, but I do see potential for the future.
    Beg your pardon, forgot to knock...
  • RogueAgent007RogueAgent007 Corn-fed central USPosts: 154MI6 Agent
    edited April 2013
    Thanks for your concern, BL, but I don't feel deprived. I've seen many very good movies since making that decision. Some were rated R before they were cleaned up for TV. I didn't notice anything lacking, which furthers my convictions.

    In my eyes there is no difference between Saving Private Ryan and Saw, as both highlight the cruelty that on man can inflict on another. I do not want to be entertained by that. And if I do not tolerate foul language in my children, I would be a hypocrite if I were entertained by it, no matter the consequences as to what I miss out on. Again, others make their own decisions, and I do not say these things in judgement of them, I'm just trying to explain my convictions in answer to BL's question.

    There is an ancient proverb that helped me make that decision: "He that is walking with wise one will become wise, but he that is having dealings with the stupid ones will fare badly.". In other words you are heavily influenced by who you spend time with. I merely chose not to spend my time with people, on screen or off, who would not encourage my sticking to my principles.

    And, now we are REALLY off topic! Sorry mods, here's an effort to return. I don't like Craig's last 2 Bond movies, but I do see potential for the future.
    Beg your pardon, forgot to knock...
  • RogueAgent007RogueAgent007 Corn-fed central USPosts: 154MI6 Agent
    edited April 2013
    That was weird! How did I quote myself? :)) that's what I get for doing this from my phone, I guess! I'll try to fix it. Sorry.
    Beg your pardon, forgot to knock...
  • davidelliott101davidelliott101 Posts: 165MI6 Agent

    Yeah, I think that may be where some of my angst toward Craig comes from. He may be as good an actor as everyone's saying, but all I've seen him in is Bond.(I don't watch Rated R movies) And I don't like his portrayal at all. But that could be the way it's been written I suppose. Still don't like it, but maybe I shouldn't be so hard on DC.

    It just seems that there is no more levity, no fun anymore. Bond is so dour all the time and I don't like it. But, I suppose it's like the phenomenon where the quarterback gets blamed for a teams failures, and the crowd screams for his replacement without considering the receivers dropping the ball or the O-line missing blocks.

    Like I said before, I'll keep giving him the benefit of the doubt in hopes the last three movies are leading up to something resembling the Bond I love. But right now, something's out of balance with Craig's Bond.

    I know this is off topic, but I was startled by your comment that you don't watch Rated R movies. May I ask why not? I'm curious because there are so many fine films you have missed if that's your filter.

    Actually, I'm 38, Chris.

    BL, I made that decision years ago when it seemed that blood and guts were used as a substitute for action, nudity replaced drama to draw audiences, and foul language and potty humor became a crutch for poor/unimaginative writing. From my perspective, Films have gone further down the spiral, following what's left of society today. I watch movies to escape reality, not experience it.

    Now, I don't look down on anyone who chooses to view R rated films, that is their decision. But, I just saw too many that were offensive to me and I decided to draw a line. And, I've seen some that were cleaned up, like the Matrix Trilogy and others. I just don't feel it is entertaining to watch blood soaked gore fests, or listen to language I find offensive, or watching other people having sex.

    I'm a big fan of what isn't seen, but is suggested in a film. For instance, if a man and woman are going to have sex, I'd much rather see the looks on their faces, read their intentions, see them drop onto the bed, and then cut away, than to have a three minute sex scene. I feel that is where the artistry lies in film, that is where I truly enjoy a film, when I'm really carried away. Not when I'm shown everything, but when I get to fill in the blanks, sort of.

    Anyway, that was a bit drawn out, wasn't it? Sorry. Does that count as another rant? I really am just here to entertain Chrisisall, anyway. :))

    I'll be 48 in a couple of months and don't watch R Rated films either, for the reasons you state! Amen, brother!
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent

    I know this is off topic, but I was startled by your comment that you don't watch Rated R movies. May I ask why not? I'm curious because there are so many fine films you have missed if that's your filter.

    Actually, I'm 38, Chris.

    BL, I made that decision years ago when it seemed that blood and guts were used as a substitute for action, nudity replaced drama to draw audiences, and foul language and potty humor became a crutch for poor/unimaginative writing. From my perspective, Films have gone further down the spiral, following what's left of society today. I watch movies to escape reality, not experience it.

    Now, I don't look down on anyone who chooses to view R rated films, that is their decision. But, I just saw too many that were offensive to me and I decided to draw a line. And, I've seen some that were cleaned up, like the Matrix Trilogy and others. I just don't feel it is entertaining to watch blood soaked gore fests, or listen to language I find offensive, or watching other people having sex.

    I'm a big fan of what isn't seen, but is suggested in a film. For instance, if a man and woman are going to have sex, I'd much rather see the looks on their faces, read their intentions, see them drop onto the bed, and then cut away, than to have a three minute sex scene. I feel that is where the artistry lies in film, that is where I truly enjoy a film, when I'm really carried away. Not when I'm shown everything, but when I get to fill in the blanks, sort of.

    Anyway, that was a bit drawn out, wasn't it? Sorry. Does that count as another rant? I really am just here to entertain Chrisisall, anyway. :))

    I'll be 48 in a couple of months and don't watch R Rated films either, for the reasons you state! Amen, brother!

    Just one more thing, if I may - I have seen and heard things in some Rated PG-13 movies that are more offensive than things that have appeared in some Rated R movies. So I'm not so sure that merely drawing the line at Rated R films really gets you where you want to go and, again, there are some fine Rated R films that you are overlooking. Sorry to be a pain about this issue. I'll let it go now.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
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