Is Live and Let Die (1973) the "Marmite" James Bond Film?

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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Good point!
    chrisisall wrote:
    Something else we can agree on!
    One cannot ignore simple truth of that magnitude, my friend. -{
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    superado wrote:

    Mind you, I'm older now

    Ain't we all... :))

    I don't think that I am getting old enough to ever appreciate DAF :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    I wouldn't say she was an insult to blacks or to females. The fact that was an idiot didn't have anything to do with her race or gender - she was just stupid! Now the CIA is another story -they should feel insulted!
    chrisisall wrote:
    Now to get back to discussing LALD. :)
    Rosie Carver was an insult to blacks, females & the CIA. :s

    Rosie Carver is not particularly bright, she's also inexperienced and rather out of her depth. This makes her vulnerable, and that's the part I warm to. When Bond asks her to make her choice she is clearly frightened, then panics and runs, which is what most of us would likely do faced with a similar situation.
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  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    Anyone else absolutely love the scene where Baron Samedi comes up from the ground, and does the really slow smile and laughs, to which bond realizes it's not another fake Samedi? So many fond memories of that scene -{
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • BIG TAMBIG TAM Wrexham, North Wales, UK.Posts: 773MI6 Agent
    Yes, I love the whole graveyard ending. And Moore looks good in a black roll-neck with that .44 Magnum.
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    BIG TAM wrote:
    Yes, I love the whole graveyard ending. And Moore looks good in a black roll-neck with that .44 Magnum.

    Yes, he looked every inch the British secret agent there. He never looked better in the role - the short military style haircut was a bonus, too, of course!
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    BIG TAM wrote:
    Yes, I love the whole graveyard ending. And Moore looks good in a black roll-neck with that .44 Magnum.

    agree! Live and Let Die is one of the coolest Bond films ever.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    I hate marmite, but LALD is one of my favorites.
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • BIG TAMBIG TAM Wrexham, North Wales, UK.Posts: 773MI6 Agent
    It's funny. I went through a phase of not caring much for LIVE & LET DIE. Perhaps I was just being pretentious. Now I love it. There's a lot to recommend it. Moore looks great, not just in the aforementioned commando gear but also in his sleek New York attire. Love the black coat. He hits the ground running in the role. The villains are an interesting array, being both amusing & dangerous. The locations are pleasingly colourful & the voodoo element gives it all a nice macabre feel. Also the comedy's not allowed to run riot. True, J.W. Pepper comes close, but his "What the f...!?" exclamation to the flying speedboat always makes me chuckle. As does the cabbie's cheery greeting of "Hello, Jim!". The climactic train slug-out with Tee Hee's brill too, as of course is the poster. All round great stuff.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    I particularly like the way ( I know that it's not for real ) how the shot hits the guy and it not only puts him down but sideways back into the coffin. :D
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    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    I find its one of a few Bond films that does not appeal for me to put on. however when I do I actually enjoy it - weird!

    Of course Solitare always changes my mood :D
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Welshie, I have found this for you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rbuJdUF9PI
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  • DelicatessenInSteelDelicatessenInSteel Posts: 181MI6 Agent
    I love Live and Let die...the only thing that irritates me is criticism of J.W. Pepper who I find hilarious in this film..because he always gets compared to Smokey & the Bandit a movie that came out 4 years later.
    1.MoonRaker 2.OHMSS 3.LALD 4.OP 5.FYEO 6.DR. NO 7.YOLT 8.LTK 9.CR 10.AVTAK
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia, PAPosts: 754MI6 Agent
    I like Pepper and think he serves the film well in terms of fun and silliness. Along with making the most ill-witted character a bigoted white male, which helps quell any criticism of racism.

    Now his appearance in TMWTGG however...

    I like the Voodoo elements of the film, and how they are interjected into the plot. The bayou makes an unexpectedly good Bond location. The only thing I didn't like was Big/Kanaga getting blown up by that device that was introduced in the last 10 minutes of the film. The effect just didn't hold up well and it seemed like they used that gag so that Moore could get the inflated ego quip inside the film.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I love Live and Let die...the only thing that irritates me is criticism of J.W. Pepper who I find hilarious in this film..because he always gets compared to Smokey & the Bandit a movie that came out 4 years later.

    Sorry, but I don't find Pepper to be funny at all. In fact, he is more irritating than amusing, and I feel he hurts the film rather than helps it.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • DelicatessenInSteelDelicatessenInSteel Posts: 181MI6 Agent
    I love Live and Let die...the only thing that irritates me is criticism of J.W. Pepper who I find hilarious in this film..because he always gets compared to Smokey & the Bandit a movie that came out 4 years later.

    Sorry, but I don't find Pepper to be funny at all. In fact, he is more irritating than amusing, and I feel he hurts the film rather than helps it.

    Dang it Blackleiter....must break your hard...shell...must...the armor is too strong....
    1.MoonRaker 2.OHMSS 3.LALD 4.OP 5.FYEO 6.DR. NO 7.YOLT 8.LTK 9.CR 10.AVTAK
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    I loooooove Pepper - maybe I should open another club where I become president? :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I wonder was JW brought back by public demand? Or did the producers/ director take him back as some comic relief in TMWTGG.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Sorry, but I don't find Pepper to be funny at all. In fact, he is more irritating than amusing, and I feel he hurts the film rather than helps it.
    In rare disagreement here. JW is stupid funny! :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia, PAPosts: 754MI6 Agent
    If only they brought back his brother Billy Bob. I heard he had the fastest boat in the Bayou.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    What are you? Some kinda doomsday machine boy?
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,112MI6 Agent
    "Get yer cotton pickin' snores outta mah pants y'know!"
    Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    "We gotta start a freakin' J.W. Peppah club here right boys? My brother-in-law Billy Bob can dee-zine a grafficks thing!!"

    Hey! How did he hack my account??? X-(
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    edited July 2013
    chrisisall wrote:
    Sorry, but I don't find Pepper to be funny at all. In fact, he is more irritating than amusing, and I feel he hurts the film rather than helps it.
    In rare disagreement here. JW is stupid funny! :))

    Well........at least we agree on the "stupid" part! (Left the door wide open for that one, Chris! :)))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I love Live and Let die...the only thing that irritates me is criticism of J.W. Pepper who I find hilarious in this film..because he always gets compared to Smokey & the Bandit a movie that came out 4 years later.

    Sorry, but I don't find Pepper to be funny at all. In fact, he is more irritating than amusing, and I feel he hurts the film rather than helps it.

    Dang it Blackleiter....must break your hard...shell...must...the armor is too strong....

    :)) Believe it or not, it's starting to crack. (That's what happens to old folks!)
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • Paul 1300Paul 1300 Essex England Posts: 53MI6 Agent
    I love LALD and see it as a landmark Bond film along with Goldfinger, Casino Royale 06, Goldeneye and TSWLM
    it was the first Bond I saw at the cinema and Baron Samedi and Tee Hee gave me nightmares as a kid, and I have seen a clip somewhere of the guy doing the stunt of jumping across the backs of the Crocodiles/ alligators, it took a few takes and was done using real animals

    Great film
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited July 2013
    I wonder was JW brought back by public demand? Or did the producers/ director take him back as some comic relief in TMWTGG.

    IMO they brought him back because the audience loved him so much in LALD.
    Same with Jaws, Kiel was on his peak after TSWLM.

    Oddly as mentioned earlier, they used a similar character (JWP) later in the Smokey and the Bandit flicks where the role was even made more important.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I love it and watched it last night. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    "take this honky out and waste him" . cant beat it :)
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    "take this honky out and waste him" . cant beat it :)
    Yeah. -{ If you blink just a bit at the effect of Kananga's demise, it's can be seen as pretty much Moore's best Bond movie IMO.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
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