I like how "exposition" is considered a sign of bad writing, rather than, you know, a necessary part of every story ever told. This guy must be fun at parties:
"Hey guys, check out this cheeky limerick:
There once was a man from Australia..."
"Stop wasting my time with exposition!!"
JediM
PS I Googled "naughty limericks" to find a good opening line and the following website came up, is this or is this not the worst collection of so called "limericks" you have ever seen?! (NB they are a bit rude!) http://home.earthlink.net/~kristenaa/naughty/lims1o.html
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice and everyone dies.
I like how "exposition" is considered a sign of bad writing, rather than, you know, a necessary part of every story ever told. This guy must be fun at parties:
"Hey guys, check out this cheeky limerick:
There once was a man from Australia..."
"Stop wasting my time with exposition!!"
JediM
PS I Googled "naughty limericks" to find a good opening line and the following website came up, is this or is this not the worst collection of so called "limericks" you have ever seen?! (NB they are a bit rude!) http://home.earthlink.net/~kristenaa/naughty/lims1o.html
Bad exposition = Bushwah of course, but without exposition you wouldn't understand what was going on in the "dramatic" scenes. It would be like walking into a movie just at the start of the third act and only watching the climactic battle or confrontation: if it's a showy movie it might be impressive to watch but you aren't going to find it dramatic because you haven't invested in the characters involved because they haven't been exposed to you.
Exposition should be weaved into the narrative, you should "show" not "tell" the audience things, but this is still exposition, it's just exposition done well. Anyway, we seem to have gone a little off topic!?
JediM
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice and everyone dies.
Bad exposition = Bushwah of course, but without exposition you wouldn't understand what was going on in the "dramatic" scenes. It would be like walking into a movie just at the start of the third act and only watching the climactic battle or confrontation: if it's a showy movie it might be impressive to watch but you aren't going to find it dramatic because you haven't invested in the characters involved because they haven't been exposed to you.
Exposition should be weaved into the narrative, you should "show" not "tell" the audience things, but this is still exposition, it's just exposition done well. Anyway, we seem to have gone a little off topic!?
JediM
There was a time when films were made and there was no sound at all. Somehow the audiences managed to become invested in the films of Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, FW Murnau, etc.
What I don't want to see in the next Bond or for that matter any film,
is to sit there for the first 10 mins watching the credits of who did what
I cant stand this
Oh no come on the title sequence is an essential part of any Bond film! Plus it can add to your experience... I'm so used to Ralph Fiennes being a bad guy that as soon as I saw his name in the title sequence of SF I thought "Aha, I bet he's evil" ... and I waited most of the film for him to turn evil. I felt really stupid at the end but it made it kinda more fun!
8-)
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice and everyone dies.
The other thing that would be awesome, is to dig up the drinking wine guy if he's still alive and have him react to some craziness or stunt that may go on.
I want to see Bond on his day off, eating breakfast, exercising, going to the tailor & barber etc. I want to see great conversation over great food & drink ala Casino Royale. I wish that scene of him running in Hyde (?) Park was kept in Skyfall...
I want to see Bond on his day off, eating breakfast, exercising, going to the tailor & barber etc. I want to see great conversation over great food & drink ala Casino Royale. I wish that scene of him running in Hyde (?) Park was kept in Skyfall...
I second that. I'd also like to see him at his house/apartment.
Things I hate:
1. People who hate things.
2. Irony.
3. Lists.
I'd like to see Bond have a fight or chase sequence that doesn't involve a construction site or Diggers. )
I'd like to see Bond have a fight or chase sequence with only one central concept, rather every single one turning into a sprawling epic encompassing every possibly mode of transport and form of improvised weapon known to man!
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice and everyone dies.
The other thing that would be awesome, is to dig up the drinking wine guy if he's still alive and have him react to some craziness or stunt that may go on.
That would be awesome, the guy who was in Spy who loved me, Moonraker and For your eyes only. He was part of the crew I think, Boom operator or something like that.
“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
I want to see Bond on his day off, eating breakfast, exercising, going to the tailor & barber etc. I want to see great conversation over great food & drink ala Casino Royale. I wish that scene of him running in Hyde (?) Park was kept in Skyfall...
I second that. I'd also like to see him at his house/apartment.
me too ,id like to see more of his pad ,it would certainly give us other things to discuss
other than what shirt ,what tie ,what jeans ect ect, we could talk about wall paper,
carpets furniture,white goods ,TVs ) new thread Hotpoint v Miele (ive got a miele myself)
me too ,id like to see more of his pad ,it would certainly give us other things to discuss
other than what shirt ,what tie ,what jeans ect ect, we could talk about wall paper,
carpets furniture,white goods ,TVs ) new thread Hotpoint v Miele (ive got a miele myself)
That's probably one reason they don't want to show his home, they know that the set would receive the highest level of scrutiny known to man!
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice and everyone dies.
me too ,id like to see more of his pad ,it would certainly give us other things to discuss
other than what shirt ,what tie ,what jeans ect ect, we could talk about wall paper,
carpets furniture,white goods ,TVs ) new thread Hotpoint v Miele (ive got a miele myself)
That's probably one reason they don't want to show his home, they know that the set would receive the highest level of scrutiny known to man!
yup.. i can imagine us lot tryng to replicate hi living room .....
"some men are coming to kill us, we're going to kill them first"
-Longest speedboat jump in a film in LALD
-First "astro-spiral" on film in TMWTGG
-Highest ski base jump on film in TSWLM
-Highest bungee jump from a structure in a movie in GE
-Most cannon rolls in a car in CR
I want to see Bond on his day off, eating breakfast, exercising, going to the tailor & barber etc. I want to see great conversation over great food & drink ala Casino Royale. I wish that scene of him running in Hyde (?) Park was kept in Skyfall...
I second that. I'd also like to see him at his house/apartment.
me too ,id like to see more of his pad ,it would certainly give us other things to discuss
other than what shirt ,what tie ,what jeans ect ect, we could talk about wall paper,
carpets furniture,white goods ,TVs ) new thread Hotpoint v Miele (ive got a miele myself)
They show some of his pad in Live & Let Die..at least the Living Room & The Kitchen.
Give me some scenes with Felix Leiter (Jeffrey Wright) where he and Bond actually are appearing as friends and the atmosphere of Skyfall and i'm happy!
One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Give me some scenes with Felix Leiter (Jeffrey Wright) where he and Bond actually are appearing as friends the atmosphere of Skyfall and i'm happy!
I'm all for that!
"Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
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I loved SKYFALL but agree with some it shouldn't necessarily be a template. Like OHMSS it should perhaps be a bit of a one-off. I do like the idea of Bond having at least two dimensions to his character, but don't want to see him riddled with angst & weeping into his cocktail at every turn. It's a difficult balance which at the moment feels just about right.
I'd like a bit more of the old Ken Adam excess to creep in, but not too outlandish. I've always been more a fan of the chrome & black interiors of THUNDERBALL as opposed to the hollowed-out volcano of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE. I think the '60s zeitgeist may be a good look to embrace. I'm also in favour of a plot that sees SPECTRE ousting QUANTUM as the new baddies with a neat introduction to Blofeld. But I think the notion of white cats & Nehru jackets should be laid to rest, though I've no problem with a cheeky in-joke at their expense.
Again, outside influences may play a big part in how the next film turns out. The last three have obviously seen Broccoli & co studying the market, acknowledging the evergrowing superhero franchises & the likes of Jason Bourne. These are all emotionally damaged heroes who operate in a faux-realistic fantasy bubble. I read today Guy Ritchie's take on THE MAN FROM UNCLE is going ahead, as well as Matthew Vaughn's film of graphic novel, THE SECRET SERVICE. If these embrace a more fantastic approach to spying & prove successful - possibly leading to their own franchises - this may not be lost on the Bond people who might apply the opulence of old to the next film.
I'd like a bit more of the old Ken Adam excess to creep in, but not too outlandish. I've always been more a fan of the chrome & black interiors of THUNDERBALL as opposed to the hollowed-out volcano of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE. I think the '60s zeitgeist may be a good look to embrace. I'm also in favour of a plot that sees SPECTRE ousting QUANTUM as the new baddies with a neat introduction to Blofeld. But I think the notion of white cats & Nehru jackets should be laid to rest, though I've no problem with a cheeky in-joke at their expense.
Again, outside influences may play a big part in how the next film turns out. The last three have obviously seen Broccoli & co studying the market, acknowledging the evergrowing superhero franchises & the likes of Jason Bourne. These are all emotionally damaged heroes who operate in a faux-realistic fantasy bubble. I read today Guy Ritchie's take on THE MAN FROM UNCLE is going ahead, as well as Matthew Vaughn's film of graphic novel, THE SECRET SERVICE. If these embrace a more fantastic approach to spying & prove successful - possibly leading to their own franchises - this may not be lost on the Bond people who might apply the opulence of old to the next film.
I would love to see a splash of the classic Bond style also...mainly because Bond follows these trends that have been following Bond as a template. Bond movies are their own genre & they should completely embrace it. Bond created the one liner..hoping they return...and not in an embarrassed way.
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I like how "exposition" is considered a sign of bad writing, rather than, you know, a necessary part of every story ever told. This guy must be fun at parties:
"Hey guys, check out this cheeky limerick:
There once was a man from Australia..."
"Stop wasting my time with exposition!!"
JediM
PS I Googled "naughty limericks" to find a good opening line and the following website came up, is this or is this not the worst collection of so called "limericks" you have ever seen?! (NB they are a bit rude!)
http://home.earthlink.net/~kristenaa/naughty/lims1o.html
Exposition = Bushwah (that's not a good thing).
http://movieline.com/2010/03/23/david-mamets-memo-to-the-writers-of-the-unit/
Bad exposition = Bushwah of course, but without exposition you wouldn't understand what was going on in the "dramatic" scenes. It would be like walking into a movie just at the start of the third act and only watching the climactic battle or confrontation: if it's a showy movie it might be impressive to watch but you aren't going to find it dramatic because you haven't invested in the characters involved because they haven't been exposed to you.
Exposition should be weaved into the narrative, you should "show" not "tell" the audience things, but this is still exposition, it's just exposition done well. Anyway, we seem to have gone a little off topic!?
JediM
There was a time when films were made and there was no sound at all. Somehow the audiences managed to become invested in the films of Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, FW Murnau, etc.
Film, it's a visual medium.
is to sit there for the first 10 mins watching the credits of who did what
I cant stand this
( you never know when it will win you a trivia quiz )
8-)
I second that. I'd also like to see him at his house/apartment.
1. People who hate things.
2. Irony.
3. Lists.
I'd like to see Bond have a fight or chase sequence with only one central concept, rather every single one turning into a sprawling epic encompassing every possibly mode of transport and form of improvised weapon known to man!
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
me too ,id like to see more of his pad ,it would certainly give us other things to discuss
other than what shirt ,what tie ,what jeans ect ect, we could talk about wall paper,
carpets furniture,white goods ,TVs
That's probably one reason they don't want to show his home, they know that the set would receive the highest level of scrutiny known to man!
yup.. i can imagine us lot tryng to replicate hi living room .....
-Longest speedboat jump in a film in LALD
-First "astro-spiral" on film in TMWTGG
-Highest ski base jump on film in TSWLM
-Highest bungee jump from a structure in a movie in GE
-Most cannon rolls in a car in CR
ETC. (Source: guinnessworldrecords.com)
They show some of his pad in Live & Let Die..at least the Living Room & The Kitchen.
I want to see his sock drawer!
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
I'm all for that!
I'd like a bit more of the old Ken Adam excess to creep in, but not too outlandish. I've always been more a fan of the chrome & black interiors of THUNDERBALL as opposed to the hollowed-out volcano of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE. I think the '60s zeitgeist may be a good look to embrace. I'm also in favour of a plot that sees SPECTRE ousting QUANTUM as the new baddies with a neat introduction to Blofeld. But I think the notion of white cats & Nehru jackets should be laid to rest, though I've no problem with a cheeky in-joke at their expense.
Again, outside influences may play a big part in how the next film turns out. The last three have obviously seen Broccoli & co studying the market, acknowledging the evergrowing superhero franchises & the likes of Jason Bourne. These are all emotionally damaged heroes who operate in a faux-realistic fantasy bubble. I read today Guy Ritchie's take on THE MAN FROM UNCLE is going ahead, as well as Matthew Vaughn's film of graphic novel, THE SECRET SERVICE. If these embrace a more fantastic approach to spying & prove successful - possibly leading to their own franchises - this may not be lost on the Bond people who might apply the opulence of old to the next film.
I would love to see a splash of the classic Bond style also...mainly because Bond follows these trends that have been following Bond as a template. Bond movies are their own genre & they should completely embrace it. Bond created the one liner..hoping they return...and not in an embarrassed way.