I wonder how many people would google Hoagie Carmichael. If it
wasn't for the Bond connection ?
He was in "To Have and Have Not" with Bogart and Bacall. Supposedly, the director, Howard Hawks, was out hunting with Hemingway and told him he could make a good movie out of Hemingway's worst book, and he did.
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I wonder how many people would google Hoagie Carmichael. If it
wasn't for the Bond connection ?
So true. If it weren't for that I wouldn't have even known who he was.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
Sadly enough, I actually remember the day he died. Not because I had a clue who he was or his music, but purely because of the Bond connection. I was quite possibly the only person of my age in the entire world who even recognised the name! Sad git, that's me!
He wrote some wonderful songs- "Georgia On My Mind", "Stardust", etc. I always thought of him as a composer and pianist, and didn't find out about his acting till later.
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Because of the Bond connection, I did eventually buy a Hoagy Carmichael CD, partly because the artwork looked so "Bond," then marvelled at realizing he was behind a lot of those songs you hear, here and there on TV, stores, etc. I remember when I started reading the books and then came across a newspaper article about Carmichael and there was this picture of him sitting at a piano, staring at the camera with a stern look and half-open eyes and I thought, "wow, that is bada**" (or whatever came to mind for "bada**" during the 80's)
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
" Naughty bottomed " was the accepted phrase, I seem to remember. )
That's what it was! ) I remember that's what I called "The Equalizer"
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
Thats tough read most of the Fleming books and the Gardner books...still need to read Moonraker, Goldfinger.....but from what I've got through so far... Casino Royale ..Daniel Craig....Ohmss...George Lazenby...Dr. No..Sean Connery..all the rest of them ..Roger Moore.
Contrary to popular belief, I think that Daniel Craig made a great Bond in Casino Royale because he took the details as the literary Bond seriously. Like wearing a short sleeved blue shirt for a casual occasion, and in the casino when we first find his taste in martinis, he was demanding and straight to the point, like in the books, and I know that I have focused on Casino Royale, I can assure you that I have seen the rest of the movies and have just finished Diamonds are Forever in the books. It is not very far and I have not developed a fantastic knowledge of Bond yet but I know him well enough to give that information.
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I'm with MrKil and Gassy Man: George Lazenby, for my money, is the closest to the ideal for Fleming's Bond. I'd love to have seen Fleming live long enough to see OHMSS hit the screens - I'm sure he would have loved it.
So, for me, Lazenby quite often springs to mind when I'm reading a Fleming novel. However, I'm not ashamed to admit that Connery is pretty hard to exorcise as he usually takes over as my mind's eye Bond.
I don't picture any of the movie actors. There's another guy I have imagined just based on the written description.
If I had to say who ACTS the most like the Bond in the novels, I'd have to say Lazenby. None of them really look that much like his description.
Craig's character doesn't look that much like how Bond is described, but he's closer to personality and how he went about business than most of the others. Book Bond wasn't throwing out cheeky one-liners for the most part, was no-nonsense, and while he liked to live the good life was a working government employee who didn't go for luxury when it came to his personal life. He had a government salary and kept to a budget. He had a job to do and did it. He often times ended up severely hurt and in the hospital and wasn't the superman Connery through Brosnan was.
IMO Lazenby was the only one whose Bond showed outright fear in the films. I am principally thinking of the scenes after he had escaped from Blofelds retreat & was being pursued through the village. Personally I thought that touch was great. Flemings Bond often had moments where his stomach knotted in fear or dread & this has been missed in the main.
I really liked that about him too. Craig's Bond has physical pains in his films, but his emotional ones don't translate to the audience like Lazenby's did.
When I think of all of Craig's scenes, the only one that springs to mind where he shows any hint of fear on his face is when he's being tortured in CR, and even then it's only a brief moment. I agree Lazenby was convincing showing fear and worry in some scenes which is what gave them more edge. Compare his attempts at getting on the cable car in OHMSS and almost getting killed to Connery's scaling of Whyte's hotel in DAF. Connery acts as though he does it ever day to relax.
I always thought Dalton was the nearest to Flemings character. I know that Fleming didn't want Sean to play the part and I'm sure in one of the dvd extras it mentions both Noel Coward and David Niven as Flemings choice.
The whole of the Scottish character background was as a direct result of Connery being Bond in film at the time as far as I'm aware but may be wrong.
When I think of all of Craig's scenes, the only one that springs to mind where he shows any hint of fear on his face is when he's being tortured in CR, and even then it's only a brief moment. I agree Lazenby was convincing showing fear and worry in some scenes which is what gave them more edge. Compare his attempts at getting on the cable car in OHMSS and almost getting killed to Connery's scaling of Whyte's hotel in DAF. Connery acts as though he does it ever day to relax.
Moore similarly showed fear in the rock climbing scene in For Your Eyes Only, as well as in the bomb defusing in Octopussy. There's the brief moment of fear in The Man with the Golden Gun when Moore looses his PPK in the fun house. Craig seems pretty confident through the entire torture.
I always thought Dalton was the nearest to Flemings character. I know that Fleming didn't want Sean to play the part and I'm sure in one of the dvd extras it mentions both Noel Coward and David Niven as Flemings choice.
The whole of the Scottish character background was as a direct result of Connery being Bond in film at the time as far as I'm aware but may be wrong.
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Craig seems pretty confident through the entire torture.
Confident of getting his b*lls mashed !
I'd say it was more bravado or showing the British stiff-upper lip....he has a resigned air about him, he knows what's coming - but won't 'show fear'...I think it's a great scene that's well acted... -{
Craig seems pretty confident through the entire torture.
Confident of getting his b*lls mashed !
I'd say it was more bravado or showing the British stiff-upper lip....he has a resigned air about him, he knows what's coming - but won't 'show fear'...I think it's a great scene that's well acted... -{
This ^
Bond was simply keeping his Chin up.
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Craig seems pretty confident through the entire torture.
Confident of getting his b*lls mashed !
I'd say it was more bravado or showing the British stiff-upper lip....he has a resigned air about him, he knows what's coming - but won't 'show fear'...I think it's a great scene that's well acted... -{
I'd show bond showed fear when he looked at the poisoned vodka martini glass that he had just drunk
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wasn't for the Bond connection ?
He was in "To Have and Have Not" with Bogart and Bacall. Supposedly, the director, Howard Hawks, was out hunting with Hemingway and told him he could make a good movie out of Hemingway's worst book, and he did.
So true. If it weren't for that I wouldn't have even known who he was.
look through old film and music books in the
library.
That's what it was!
The actor who comes closest to portraying Fleming's Bond from Goldfinger to The Man With the Golden Gun is easily Timothy Dalton.
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Hope to hear more about your thoughts on Bond.
So, for me, Lazenby quite often springs to mind when I'm reading a Fleming novel. However, I'm not ashamed to admit that Connery is pretty hard to exorcise as he usually takes over as my mind's eye Bond.
If I had to say who ACTS the most like the Bond in the novels, I'd have to say Lazenby. None of them really look that much like his description.
Craig's character doesn't look that much like how Bond is described, but he's closer to personality and how he went about business than most of the others. Book Bond wasn't throwing out cheeky one-liners for the most part, was no-nonsense, and while he liked to live the good life was a working government employee who didn't go for luxury when it came to his personal life. He had a government salary and kept to a budget. He had a job to do and did it. He often times ended up severely hurt and in the hospital and wasn't the superman Connery through Brosnan was.
I really liked that about him too. Craig's Bond has physical pains in his films, but his emotional ones don't translate to the audience like Lazenby's did.
The whole of the Scottish character background was as a direct result of Connery being Bond in film at the time as far as I'm aware but may be wrong.
"Do you expect me to talk? "No Mister Bond I expect you to die"
did his research.
Moore similarly showed fear in the rock climbing scene in For Your Eyes Only, as well as in the bomb defusing in Octopussy. There's the brief moment of fear in The Man with the Golden Gun when Moore looses his PPK in the fun house. Craig seems pretty confident through the entire torture.
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Confident of getting his b*lls mashed !
I'd say it was more bravado or showing the British stiff-upper lip....he has a resigned air about him, he knows what's coming - but won't 'show fear'...I think it's a great scene that's well acted... -{
This ^
Bond was simply keeping his Chin up.
I'd show bond showed fear when he looked at the poisoned vodka martini glass that he had just drunk