Moore's killing of Sandor in TSWLM

MustonMuston Huncote, Leicestershire Posts: 228MI6 Agent
Just watched TSWLM again and I'd forgotten how cold blooded Bond is when he whacks his tie away from Sandor's hand. This scene stands up to (though not as good as) the scene in FYEO when Moore kicks the car over the cliff. Just shows that throughout Moore's Carry-on style reign as Bond, he could still pull out some rather ruthless acts. Great stuff :007)
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  • ZorinIndustriesZorinIndustries United StatesPosts: 837MI6 Agent
    Yeah it was definitely different seeing RM do that, but very Bond imo !
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I sorry I can't remember who wrote it But I remember
    reading a post some time ago that said Connery played
    the role as a Realistic agent with some light moments. While
    Moore played it Light with a few Realistic moments. An idea
    I agree with.
    Still great films and Sir Roger could be as Cold as Any other
    Bond, at Times. -{
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    One of my favorite 007 kills. Did you notice the homage to it in QoS?

    And don't forget RM shooting Stromberg at the dinning room table. The most cold blooded kill since Professor Dent in Dr. No.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    I'm not sure I agree. As my compatriot over on CBn and BaB, Major Tallon, says, this was cold blooded murder after which Moore Bond issued the "What a helpful chap!" line. This was part of the attempt to toughen up Moore's depiction of James Bond in the films - the other example being him smacking Andrea Anders around in TMWTGG. I think this rang false when compared to the literary James Bond who disliked killing in cold blood and never mistreated the fairer sex in this way, and as Kingsley Amis noted, did not drop throwaway yobbo remarks from the side of his mouth afterwards to lighten the unpleasantries. The FYEO Locque scene was brilliant however, as it was based on revenge for the death of Bond's Italian ally Luigi Ferrara a la Leiter and The Robber's shark-induced demise. -{
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Well that fat chap had tried to kill him. But perhaps Bond should have pulled him back and they could have gone off for a kebab or something.
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Well that fat chap had tried to kill him. But perhaps Bond should have pulled him back and they could have gone off for a kebab or something.

    Yes, I see what you mean. I just think the comedic line takes away from the power of the moment - just like in FYEO - "He had no head for heights!" 8-)
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    edited March 2013
    Once again Moore seems to be taking the heat for cinematic Bond trademarks that were implemented well before his time.

    Those one-liners aren't any different than Lazenby saying "he had lots of guts!" or Connery "I think he got the point!"


    It's all part of the fun.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    I thought the humour makes it more sardonic and ruthless, almost like force feeding the drug dealer heroin in The Wild Geese, though nothing is as nasty as that.

    The head for heights joke was a bit rubbish imo. A disappointed "F""k me, you'd think it might have exploded..." could have hit the spot.
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    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    I thought the humour makes it more sardonic and ruthless, almost like force feeding the drug dealer heroin in The Wild Geese, though nothing is as nasty as that.

    The head for heights joke was a bit rubbish imo. A disappointed "F""k me, you'd think it might have exploded..." could have hit the spot.

    Yes, well the humour certainly makes it more flippant at least. :)
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  • DutchfingerDutchfinger Holland With LovePosts: 1,240MI6 Agent
    Great scene indeed, I think the whole scene of Bond pushing someone of a building in Quantum of Solace was a homage to this.
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    edited March 2013
    Great scene indeed, I think the whole scene of Bond pushing someone of a building in Quantum of Solace was a homage to this.

    Yes, it was what I immediately thought of upon seeing QoS in the cinema in November 2008. There are a lot of references back to older James Bond films in QoS, more so than any links to anything actually written by Ian Fleming himself.
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
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