Similairities between Dalton and Moore
Firemass
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Some fans seem to think that Dalton was the polar opposite of Roger Moore, but I find them both to share a lot of similar qualities or situations. Am I trying to unite two opposing camps of Bond fans? Maybe... 
-Dalton wore more casual clothes, but so did Roger in FYEO.
-Dalton had a more mature, romantic relationship with Kara, but so did Roger with Melina as they enjoyed shopping at the marketplace. And dinner with Stacy was also very down to earth. (TLD, FYEO, and AVTAK)
-Both have a conversation with the leading lady in a horse drawn carriage. (TLD and FYEO)
-Both say "There's a 4 letter word and you're full of it" (TLD and TMWTGG)
-Dalton's gadget laden car chase with Kara in the passenger seat reminds me of Roger and Barbara in the Lotus. (TLD and TSWLM)
-Both have their car self-destruct which kills a few bad guys too. (TLD and FYEO)
-Both wear desert garb while riding horse/camel. (TLD and TSWLM)
-Both interrogate a Russian General at gunpoint. (TLD and OP)
-Both get drugged by their leading lady. (TLD and TSWLM)
-Both drive a vehicle sideways off a ramp (LTK and OP)
-Both work alongside David Hedison as Felix Leiter (LTK and LALD)
-Both disarm bombs with digital red numbers. (TLD and OP)
-Both watch a bad guy die of over-inflation. (LTK and LALD)
-Both jump out of an airplane with their leading lady only seconds before it flies into cliff in the desert and explodes. (TLD and OP)
-Both were great James Bonds. -{
-Dalton wore more casual clothes, but so did Roger in FYEO.
-Dalton had a more mature, romantic relationship with Kara, but so did Roger with Melina as they enjoyed shopping at the marketplace. And dinner with Stacy was also very down to earth. (TLD, FYEO, and AVTAK)
-Both have a conversation with the leading lady in a horse drawn carriage. (TLD and FYEO)
-Both say "There's a 4 letter word and you're full of it" (TLD and TMWTGG)
-Dalton's gadget laden car chase with Kara in the passenger seat reminds me of Roger and Barbara in the Lotus. (TLD and TSWLM)
-Both have their car self-destruct which kills a few bad guys too. (TLD and FYEO)
-Both wear desert garb while riding horse/camel. (TLD and TSWLM)
-Both interrogate a Russian General at gunpoint. (TLD and OP)
-Both get drugged by their leading lady. (TLD and TSWLM)
-Both drive a vehicle sideways off a ramp (LTK and OP)
-Both work alongside David Hedison as Felix Leiter (LTK and LALD)
-Both disarm bombs with digital red numbers. (TLD and OP)
-Both watch a bad guy die of over-inflation. (LTK and LALD)
-Both jump out of an airplane with their leading lady only seconds before it flies into cliff in the desert and explodes. (TLD and OP)
-Both were great James Bonds. -{
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
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never of thought off.
A few more that I noticed:
Villain slashing at Bond with a sabre/machete while Bond is between vehicles. (Gobinda on the train in Octopussy and Sanchez on the tanker in License to Kill)
Chase scene featuring the Bond vehicle doing a wheelie. The Rickshaw in Octopussy and the Semi-truck in License to Kill.
Cessna gets its wings clipped off while on the ground. (Live and Let Die and License to Kill)
Hotel clerk notifies Bond that his uncle has arrived reminds me of Live and Let Die where Bond is told that his wife has arrived. "Incurable romantic...Mrs. Bond"
Dalton, while using an alias, notices Leiter's corsage on the floor is similar to TSWLM when Moore noticed the woman's glove in the shark tank.
Dalton watching Pam and Heller do business is similar to Moore watching Stacy and Zorin do business.
and the Aston Martin launch ramp was somewhat similar to the speedboat jump in Live and Let Die. I've noticed they are often played back-to-back in Bond montages. (Much like clips of Connery, Moore and Dalton all driving their vehicles sideways)
I wonder if all these references to Live and Let Die were a subtle reminder of David Hedison as Felix.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Thunderpussey,Blacklleiter ,and Silouette man,on this one
Moore has a much more wittier side to him and besides does Dalton ever smile?
but as for scene comparrisons between the two ,a gold star for your exercise book
The scene where Bond leaves flowers on Tracy's grave in the FYO PTS is also a case in point.
Dalton's wish to get back to Fleming is also evident in many of Moore's films, particularly FYEO, Octopussy, and Live and Let Die which all contained some great Fleming scenes, where Moore plays Bond as Fleming intended IMO.
Where they differ is that Moore is suave, wittier and more urbane than Dalton, whereas the latter is more down to earth, perhaps a more believeable Bond. Ultimately this simple difference separates them more than any other two Bonds.
Old Man? Is that what you chaps at SMERSH call each other?
Apparently I was mainly finding similarities between the Moore and Dalton films and not so much their interpretation of the role.
Dalton does smile and also chuckles a lot. Not sure if any of the other Bond have laughed as much as Dalton?
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
I think all the Bond films tend to reuse or borrow stunts, gags, (occasionaly the whole plot) whatever that had worked in other bond films. There are also certain elements that epitomize Bond, the tux, casinos/gambling, etc. One of these things is the wit of Bond. Roger does play the role more lighthearted than Dalton but I think people over exaggerate this. While Roger may be best at it, Bond has been shooting off one liners from the start. The movies didn't get silly because Moore played Bond too light, they got silly because of the direction given by the producers, directors, writers, etc. What are the similairities between Dalton and Moore? Both are extremely professional actors who played the role the way the producers wanted it played at the time.
It's not an exaggeration to say he played it lighter, but it does get over exaggerated about how light he played it and how this is the ruin of Bond. He played it light because that's how the producers wanted it. He was probably picked because he embodied what they were going for. I wish he had played it with more of an edge because I think when he did he was pretty good at it but that's not how the movies were written, directed or produced. And Roger Moore likes humor and likes playing things broad so there was no arguments from him. But somehow Moore seems to get blamed for sidewistles, JW Pepper, Jaws buffonary, Tarzan yells and the rest and that's where I think the over exaggeration comes into play.
Any similarities thereafter were purely coincidental.
'Nuff said. -{
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
If not, then how to you explain YOLT, TSWLM, MR and DAD, then? More than coincidence, I'd say!
I'd say the director has a lot to do with it. Lewis Gilbert made the same film 3 times.
John Glen's films are all widely different, but still contain a lot of similarities in the smaller details. Many of which I have mentioned here in this thread.
Not sure how D.A.D relates to anything!
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Well DAD is a (crappy) MR clone with a good 'ol chunk of DAF thrown on top! Now, stir the mixture well and voila, DAD.