from Russia with love

always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
in James Bond Literature
Id thought I would join you guys today, so I purchased my very first Fleming book,
hard choice seeing all those books side by side ,so I opted for FRWL
now just have to sit back and wait for all the stick from you guys :))
By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    -{ Welcome to the world of the Literary Bond. :D

    FRWL is a good choice one of Fleming's best. I also think for a good read
    Dr No, Moonraker and O.H.M.S.S are great.
    Why did you decide to start with FRWL ?, you know ther'll be many telling you
    you should've started with CR and worked your way through. :007)

    I didn't read them in order Picked them up as a kid from 2nd hand Book shops
    and markets to just read them as I got them.
    Either way they're fun. -{

    After getting all the Bonds on to a cheap Tablet, I now hope to get all the Bond novels
    on Kindel so I'll hve everyhing Bond on it. Although that's a long term Plan. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    I think I've read around 7 now and FRWL is prob my fave so far (im itching to get to Thunderball and OHMSS)
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  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
    FRWL was the first one I read as my selection was based on my ranking of Bond movies. Don't know if it was just me, but getting into it was slow-going because of the plot and time-line structure and maybe because of being used to the movies and being a teen then, the need for instant gratification for exciting Bond action worked against that appreciation. Now, of course, I'd gladly pick it up and read with abandon.
    "...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    -{ Welcome to the world of the Literary Bond. :D

    FRWL is a good choice one of Fleming's best. I also think for a good read
    Dr No, Moonraker and O.H.M.S.S are great.
    Why did you decide to start with FRWL ?, you know ther'll be many telling you
    you should've started with CR and worked your way through. :007)

    I didn't read them in order Picked them up as a kid from 2nd hand Book shops
    and markets to just read them as I got them.
    Either way they're fun. -{

    After getting all the Bonds on to a cheap Tablet, I now hope to get all the Bond novels
    on Kindel so I'll hve everyhing Bond on it. Although that's a long term Plan. :D
    HI Thunderpussy, went for FRWL cos im going through my Turkish phase of life at the mo
    went to Fetiye ,into Turkish coffee (medium sweet naturaly) and just got my shishka pipe
    so I thought FRWL was a natural choice :)
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) whatever works. -{

    I hope you don't take up Voodoo for Live and let Die. :007)

    Let us know what you think of it.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • raptors_887raptors_887 CanadaPosts: 215MI6 Agent
    How similar is FRWL to the movie? I'm almost finished DAF and I'm surprised how the novels aren't anything close to the movies. I still really like them though.
    1: Casino Royale 2: Goldeneye 3: Skyfall 4: Octopussy 5: Goldfinger 6: Tomorrow Never Dies 7: The World Is Not Enough 8: The Living Daylights 9: From Russia With Love 10: The Spy Who Loved Me
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    FRWL is closer than most, perhaps the closest, aside from OHMSS perhaps. But the novel is a lot darker, more intense, it's more anti-Commie propoganda. And the action scenes at the end of the film don't feature in it. A lot of the film's dialogue is taken verbatim from the novel.

    Most of the novels are used simply as a jumping off point for the movie, use the title, the names of the main characters, the locations and off you go.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Colonel PinstripeColonel Pinstripe UKPosts: 52MI6 Agent
    Napoleon Plural wrote:
    FRWL is closer than most, perhaps the closest, aside from OHMSS perhaps. But the novel is a lot darker, more intense, it's more anti-Commie propoganda. And the action scenes at the end of the film don't feature in it. A lot of the film's dialogue is taken verbatim from the novel.

    Most of the novels are used simply as a jumping off point for the movie, use the title, the names of the main characters, the locations and off you go.

    Indeed. FRWL and OHMSS are the most faithful to Fleming. Thereafter (the 1970s) things took a decidedly different turn, to say the least.
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    :)) whatever works. -{

    I hope you don't take up Voodoo for Live and let Die. :007)

    Let us know what you think of it.

    Yeah man ,me backside has already done de caribbean ting
    in MO Bay ,so you quite safe blood :))
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • ixtoreixtore NYCPosts: 111MI6 Agent
    Both FRWL and Dr. No are close to the films, mainly because Fleming was around during their development and shooting. I think FRWL is a great read. My first Bond book was Dr. No because I had just seen it at the movies and wanted to find out about this Fleming guy.
    Enjoy the ride as you read each book. They all have that certain 'something' that Fleming breathed into the Bond character that no one (if you go by me) has been able to recreate. Forget the plots, the gags, the dated stereotypes --- look at how he describes Bond, his feelings, his intentions. Quite unique.
    The scent smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. Then the soul-erosion produced by high gambling - a compost of greed and fear and nervous tension - becomes unbearable and the senses awake and revolt from it.
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    ixtore wrote:
    Both FRWL and Dr. No are close to the films, mainly because Fleming was around during their development and shooting. I think FRWL is a great read. My first Bond book was Dr. No because I had just seen it at the movies and wanted to find out about this Fleming guy.
    Enjoy the ride as you read each book. They all have that certain 'something' that Fleming breathed into the Bond character that no one (if you go by me) has been able to recreate. Forget the plots, the gags, the dated stereotypes --- look at how he describes Bond, his feelings, his intentions. Quite unique.

    IM upto chapter five so far, so I now understand Grant and his background, but in a way feel let down that
    as a cinema Bond fan ive been some what cheated out of the true story and I have lots more to read
    (what else is in store for me) But Flemings writing is fantastic ,the detail he has put in is so easy for the minds eye to conjour up images of what the master is trying to portray, I know film makers cannot use the whole book (shame)
    to make a film ,the cost would be astronomical ,and I feel for the person whos job it is to translate the book to the film
    which bit do you keep in/out that has to be a tough call, but tell me am I right to be worried that the book (after ive read it) could dare I say ruin the film ,will I be sitting there ,thinking oh I wish they had put that bit in,only you guys can tell me ,I await your advice :)
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Glad your enjoying it AS. Fleming was a great writer he knew how to drive a story along. Making the film makers job a little easier. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    Glad your enjoying it AS. Fleming was a great writer he knew how to drive a story along. Making the film makers job a little easier. :))

    Yes im ashamed to say that I haven't read a book since I left school,
    don't get me wrong, I love books, but I buy books on various subjects
    I do have SIR Rogers book on Bond wich he signed for me ( well we did used to be neighbours years ago ) :D
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) You wont like chapter six of Sir Roger's book, always shaken. It's all about his crazy neigbhours. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,868Chief of Staff
    always shaken wrote:
    tell me am I right to be worried that the book (after ive read it) could dare I say ruin the film ,will I be sitting there ,thinking oh I wish they had put that bit in,only you guys can tell me ,I await your advice :)

    Fleming's own words (on seeing DN): "Those who've read the book are likely to be disappointed, but those who haven't will find it a wonderful movie."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    While I was reading the Fleming Books Roger Moore was the screen Bond, and I
    never had a problem seperating the two characters. The screen Bond and the literary Bond.
    Both very diffferent But I loved them Both. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Stick with the book, Always Shaken, it's fantastic. It's a slow start but you will see it all fits into the film after all... -{
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I wonder if there would be any Interest in a Bond Book of the Month, I did suggest it before.
    Where we'd pick a Book read it over a month, then Discuss the sh*t out of it. :)) . As we'd be
    getting the modern take on them from Older readers and members who'd never read them before.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    I'd be up for that. I've read all the Fleming novels and Col Sun many times, the Gardner books, Deaver and Faulks once, and none of the Benon ones.so we have plenty to choose from!
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Good idea Thunderpussy
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    OK, we'll see if we can get a few members together ( as I'd hate it to be a small private club, the more the merrier ) -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Pour yourself a glass of something and listen to the John Barry soundtrack while reading it. I felt the film was a tad lightweight having read the book first, but the film is a crowdpleaser while the book is a bit of a solo pleasure, a bit nasty in its tone too.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    thanks guys , I will endeavour to finish FRWL,and continue to enjoy both book
    and film ,this discussion has been very shall we say grown up ,much better than
    most of the verbal tennis that's been on this site for a while ,im sure Sir Miles
    will approve of our adult collective :)
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    The collective : "resistance is futile" :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • DEFIANT 74205DEFIANT 74205 Perth, AustraliaPosts: 1,881MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    I wonder if there would be any Interest in a Bond Book of the Month, I did suggest it before.
    Where we'd pick a Book read it over a month, then Discuss the sh*t out of it. :)) . As we'd be
    getting the modern take on them from Older readers and members who'd never read them before.

    I'd be up for that too. Just started re-reading them in order, about 3/4 of the way through Live and Let Die now.

    That being said, I've only read Fleming, and only intend to read Fleming. So if a non-Fleming Bond novel is the "Bond Book of the Month", I won't be able to contribute.
    "Watch the birdie, you bastard!"
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Could I ask DEFIANT 74205, why you haven't read any of the continuing novels ?
    and do you include Col Sun. I'm just interested because when I was younger I was always
    so excited to read a new Bond adventure even By Gardner ( some of which I think are very good )
    I've also read the Benson novels but these are of a much lower quality ( Just my opinion ).
    Infact I can't wait for "Solo" to come out, To get in to another Bond adventure. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    I haven't got all the continuation novels, so I wouldn't be able to discuss all books, but I would definitely join in the conversation about the novels I have read.
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Well would anyone object to waiting to the end of to the end of this month and start in July.
    I'd suggest starting with Casino Royale, as if someone doesn't have a copy there should be loads
    in old book shops etc.
    All opinions welcome along with any better suggestions, everthings up for discussion at the moment.
    After all there's no rush, We have all the time in the World,.................................... :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    No problem to wait for a week. Will you start a new tread for it TP?
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes, I was thinking of a new thread. Only waiting if anyone has any suggestions or
    a prefernce for another Book.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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