Who was the best/worst onscreen fighting Bond ?
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My opinion;
Best= G.Lazenby....He fought onscreen like he was a tough SOB in real life ! Granted, he was the youngest Bond, so he had the youthful flexibility in his favor....but still, he looked really good at fighting. Maybe it's an old Australian thing ?....Errol Flynn would say that his numerous fistfights in real life were "The Aussie coming up in me !"
Worst= R. Moore....Sorry Sir Rog....I guess God made you super handsome and tall, but then decided that was enough ! (He wasn't going to add athletic to the mix as well). The sidekick that he throws at Zander in TSWLM is totally lame...the whole fight on the roof seemed flawed in the lack of strength behind Bond's punches and kicks. The sidekicking of the car off the cliff in FYEO shows an improvement in form however.......
Best= G.Lazenby....He fought onscreen like he was a tough SOB in real life ! Granted, he was the youngest Bond, so he had the youthful flexibility in his favor....but still, he looked really good at fighting. Maybe it's an old Australian thing ?....Errol Flynn would say that his numerous fistfights in real life were "The Aussie coming up in me !"
Worst= R. Moore....Sorry Sir Rog....I guess God made you super handsome and tall, but then decided that was enough ! (He wasn't going to add athletic to the mix as well). The sidekick that he throws at Zander in TSWLM is totally lame...the whole fight on the roof seemed flawed in the lack of strength behind Bond's punches and kicks. The sidekicking of the car off the cliff in FYEO shows an improvement in form however.......
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Worst: Moore. He's not really bad, just not as good as others.
They're all good fighters in my opinion!
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goes to Sir Rog,but in Sir Rogers defence,he always looks immaculate after his punch ups,
and in the real world that's the best result, ive had plenty of fights in my service ,and to be
honest ,its not good or clever,and some of them have never been 0ne on one ,
my patrol partner and me were "jumped " one night by about 6 guys (that's when you know you have a
real fight on your hands) So street fighting, keep away from it
Best fighters for me are Sean and George although Pierce and Sean really gave it their all during the climax of Goldeneye
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too kind. He really was bad, and deep down I suspect that you also feel that but are too much of a gentlemen to say so.
Craig looks very good. A bit too ' block slap' /invincible for my tastes. So far I have yet to feel that he was in real peril, apart of course from the superb stairwell fight in CR. For me what I liked about Sean was the ability he had to convey his thinking in the midst of the mayhem. DC could pull this off really well but so far that is not how they have chosen to play it. I really want to see DC outclassed and really out of his depth and having to rely on his wits. He could then equal Sean.
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I have to agree with that. The 3 best fight scenes, IMO, in the films are:
Lazenby on the beach in the PTS
Connery and Red Grant on the train in FRWL
Craig with Slate in the Haiti hotel in QoS, or in the stairwell fight in CR
All three of them really look as though they're at it for real.
Those are my top three as well. -{
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For blend of technical skill and drama, it's a tie between Lazenby and Connery. Both actors knew what they were doing: Lazenby was a military hand-to-hand combat instructor, and Connery was an amateur boxer. In terms of drama, their fights seemed a bit more real than Craig's simply because they appeared more desperate.
Moore is by far the worst. The aforementioned Sandor fight with the lame kicks was pretty terrible. In fairness, Moore's dressing room fight in TSWLM was actually not too bad.
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I agree, I think its time DC had the **** kicked out of him more by some double hard bastard!
I actually haven't watched the special features of the Brosnan era yet. Does he do a lot of the fighting scenes himself or is a stunt double used?
Moore was pretty tough in Live and Let Die. After that - not so much.
Always thought Dalton was physically out of place in the Bond character (though mentally in gear).
The stairwell fight in CR is my favorite after the train fight in FRWL. It was brutal and seemed the most realistic of any fight in a Bond film. The only reason I rank the train fight higher (other than the fact that my man Sean was in it) is because of the interplay between Bond and Grant before the fight. That was classic!
Agree with both thoughts. The 'difference' between the now of Craig and the then of Connery is a certain style. The CR stairwell fight was brutally real, quite brilliant. But it also reminded me of the Bourne series fights - fast, deadly, move on. The FRWL train fight had a feeling to it that did help with Grant's sadistic foreplay, but it also had style within the substance. Choreographed but with brutal pieces (the heel to the spine, the head lock body slam from one side of the door to the other).
The fight I liked best in Skyfall was the short abrupt one on the island where Bond disarms and kills the henchmen and captures his prey. Now THAT was fast and furious.
Actor. In fact at times I thought he moved a little awkwardly.