Most Disturbing and Saddening Death

Colonel ShatnerColonel Shatner Chavtastic Bristol, BritainPosts: 574MI6 Agent
edited August 2013 in The James Bond Films
Which supporting character's deaths do you find the hardest to sit through? Here is my shortlist:

Vesper Lynd - Goes without saying, her being blackmailed into working for Quantum, which leads to her eventual suicide, overshadowing two whole movies.

Tracy di Vicenzo - Another death that goes without saying, with a meek George Lazenby cradling her corpse in his arms and mumbling having all the time in the world reducing me to tears as a small boy.

Severnaya Staff - Faceless redshirts to be sure, but just regular and likable looking joes doing their job then getting gunned down by a crazed villainess for their trouble. The real emotional effect was from Natalya's saddened reaction to the senseless carnage in her workplace.

Aki - Seeing the sassy, confident Aki getting her lungs constricted (while giving this pleading, frightened gaze) was hard to take.

Strawberry Fields and Mathis - Fields' death was very bizarre and tragically leftfield (with her reception note making you think she was warning about British agents instead of Quantum agents). Mathis comes back after what Bond unintentionally did to him, only to get shot and get respectfully dumped into a rubbish bin.

Ali Kerim Bey - Another unfortunate, anti-climatic death.
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  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    When Q, Desmond llewelyn ,in the world is not enough,slowly drops pot of camera,
    I always think "that's the last time we will see him alive, I know its not strictly in 100% in accordance
    to your question , but I hope you don't mind :)
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Agree with OP, plus Severine of course. Fields was not just awful, it's the way Craig presses to have her awarded the VC, as it to make amends, like, that's okay then!

    The fake Major Derveaux (sp) drowning in Thunderball rather than getting his promised riches.

    Blofeld's death in FYEO is hard to endure for other reasons.
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  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,112MI6 Agent

    The fake Major Derveaux (sp) drowning in Thunderball rather than getting his promised riches.

    I thought he deserved what happened to him because he was disloyal to SPECTRE trying to extort more money from them.

    Mine is Della's death in LTK. We don't see what happens which makes it more disturbing, the look of sadness on Tim's face
    when he discovers Della's body and Felix calling Della's name made it upsetting for me
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  • Le SamouraiLe Samourai Honolulu, HIPosts: 573MI6 Agent
    For me, the death of Mathis in QoS by a longshot. It was so brutal and unexpected. Plus, I really liked the character.
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    The death of M in Skyfall. I really enjoyed Dame Judi, and the death of her character genuinely saddened me.
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  • PPK 7.65mmPPK 7.65mm Saratoga Springs NY USAPosts: 1,253MI6 Agent
    My list goes as follows:

    Aki: She really looked like she suffered terribly before she died from the poison.

    Tracy: Her future was looking so bright and then she takes a bullet meant for Bond, quite a shock the first time seeing the film. Even upon later viewings I find it sad since before she met Bond her life was full of sadness and pain.

    Della: Being raped and then killed is a terrible fate for a woman. Bond crying her name upon seeing her dead body really drives home the point.
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    The death of M in Skyfall. I really enjoyed Dame Judi, and the death of her character genuinely saddened me.

    Agree with this for the most 'saddening' death.

    The most 'disturbing' death however would have to be Milton Krest, hands down.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Bond obviously didn't care about Tracy so why should we? After we endured their sappy romantic montage he then cheated on her like 20+ times.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    edited August 2013
    I can probably think of at least one for each film:

    DN: Quarrel's death bums me out. He didn't want to go to Crab Key. He was afraid to go to Crab Key. Yet, Bond forced him to go and then he ends up being burned to death by the dragon tank.

    FRWL: Kerim Bay. I rather liked him.

    GF: Jill and Tilly Masterton. Being covered in gold paint is iconic scene, but also pretty brutal. Same with getting your head sliced off by Oddjob's hat.

    TB: Bond wounding a shark with his speargun with the intention of it being eaten by other sharks. Very, very cruel.

    YOLT: Aki being poisoned. Kill the Bond girl when the movie is 80% over? C'mon!!!

    OHMSS: If you disregard the first 2 hours of the film, the doomed wedding is actually really sad.

    DAF: Plenty O'Toole didn't deserve to die. She was already thrown like 20 stories out of a hotel room..they should have left it at that. Instead, we see her again dead and floating in a backyard pool.

    LALD: Hmm... Kanaga's death by inflation was certainly a bit weird.

    TMWTGG: Scaramanga's story about his pet elephant being killed.

    TSWLM: Bond killed Stromberg at the dinner table. Shoots him in the groin and 3 times in the chest and Stromberg goes face down into his salad. Also, the young freshfaced "leave it to me Sir" sailor who was gunned down.

    MR: Corrine running through the woods being chased by the Dobermans. This is handsdown the most disturbing and saddening death in the entire series. Nightmare alert.

    FYEO: Drawing a blank on this one.

    OP: Vijay being taken down with the buzz-saw yoyo is hard to watch. I like the quick edit to the flock of birds flying off the tree.

    AVTAK: Tibbet being strangled in the carwash. The KGB agent being shoved into the pump propellers. Howe being shot at point blank range. Jenny Flex and other girls floating dead in the mine as May Day mourns them. Zorin's miners being massacred for fun.

    TLD: The fight in the kitchen when Necros scalds him with boiling water and then hits him with a frying pan. Ouch!

    LTK: Too many to count! Delia's honeymoon death is one I can't bear to watch. Even though it happened off-screen.

    GE: Thanks for already mentioning the Severnaya massacre.

    TND: Stamper machine gunning the British sailors who thought they were about to be rescued.

    TWINE: Bond killing Elektra comes to mind, but I think he did the right thing.

    DAD: The "fake" virtual reality sequence showing Money Penny dead.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    I can probably think of at least one for each film:

    DN: Quarrel's death bums me out. He didn't want to go to Crab Key. He was afraid to go to Crab Key. Yet, Bond forced him to go and then he ends up being burned to death by the dragon tank.

    FRWL: Kerim Bay. I rather liked him.

    GF: Jill and Tilly Masterton. Being covered in gold paint is iconic scene, but also pretty brutal. Same with getting your head sliced off by Oddjob's hat.

    TB: Bond wounding a shark with his speargun with the intention of it being eaten by other sharks. Very, very cruel.

    YOLT: Aki being poisoned. Kill the Bond girl when the movie is 80% over? C'mon!!!

    OHMSS: If you disregard the first 2 hours of the film, the doomed wedding is actually really sad.

    DAF: Plenty O'Toole didn't deserve to die. She was already thrown like 20 stories out of a hotel room..they should have left it at that. Instead, we see her again dead and floating in a backyard pool.

    LALD: Hmm... Kanaga's death by inflation was certainly a bit weird.

    TMWTGG: Scaramanga's story about his pet elephant being killed.

    TSWLM: Bond killed Stromberg at the dinner table. Shoots him in the groin and 3 times in the chest and Stromberg goes face down into his salad. Also, the young freshfaced "leave it to me Sir" sailor who was gunned down.

    MR: Corrine running through the woods being chased by the Dobermans. This is handsdown the most disturbing and saddening death in the entire series. Nightmare alert.

    FYEO: Drawing a blank on this one.

    OP: Vijay being taken down with the buzz-saw yoyo is hard to watch. I like the quick edit to the flock of birds flying off the tree.

    AVTAK: Tibbet being strangled in the carwash. The KGB agent being shoved into the pump propellers. Howe being shot at point blank range. Jenny Flex and other girls floating dead in the mine as May Day mourns them. Zorin's miners being massacred for fun.

    TLD: The fight in the kitchen when Necros scalds him with boiling water and then hits him with a frying pan. Ouch!

    LTK: Too many to count! Delia's honeymoon death is one I can't bear to watch. Even though it happened off-screen.

    GE: Thanks for already mentioning the Severnaya massacre.

    TND: Stamper machine gunning the British sailors who thought they were about to be rescued.

    TWINE: Bond killing Elektra comes to mind, but I think he did the right thing.

    DAD: The "fake" virtual reality sequence showing Money Penny dead.

    I like your choices and explanations, particularly your comments about Quarrel, Plenty O'Toole, Corrine and Della. But I'm curious about one thing - why no choices from the Craig films?
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  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    If I could only choose 1 per film, then:

    DN - Quarrel
    FRWL - Kerim Bay
    GF - Jill Masterson
    TB - Quist
    YOLT - Aki
    OHMSS - Tracy
    DAF - Dentist killed by Wint and Kidd
    LALD - Baines
    TMWTGG - Hai Fat
    TSWLM - Two Professors
    MR - Corrine
    FYEO - Locque
    OP - Vjay
    AVTAK - Howe
    TLD - Saunders
    LTK - Milton Krest
    GE - Severnaya workers
    TND - British sailors
    TWINE - Elektra King
    DAD - Plastic surgeon, but only because of Halle Berry's awful dialogue/acting during that scene
    CR - Vesper
    QOS - Mathis
    SF - M
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    All the deaths in the Craig films are miserable and wretched.

    In Bond 24, he shoots fish in a barrel. Poor things...
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    All the deaths in the Craig films are miserable and wretched.

    In Bond 24, he shoots fish in a barrel. Poor things...

    So some of the deaths in the other Bond films were fun??? 8-)
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  • Colonel ShatnerColonel Shatner Chavtastic Bristol, BritainPosts: 574MI6 Agent
    TSWLM: Bond killed Stromberg at the dinner table. Shoots him in the groin and 3 times in the chest and Stromberg goes face down into his salad. Also, the young freshfaced "leave it to me Sir" sailor who was gunned down.

    Stromberg was gunned down with disproportionate brutality, but he had it coming. The more upsetting deaths was when he dumped his pleasant assistant/secretary into the shark tank and when that squat henchman shot that female informer by mistake when aiming for Bond.
    TLD: The fight in the kitchen when Necros scalds him with boiling water and then hits him with a frying pan.

    He may have actually survived that ('Two dead! Two in hospital!').
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  • VandrellVandrell London, EnglandPosts: 324MI6 Agent
    When I was a kid Benecio Del Toro going into the grinder in LTK really disturbed me. I always thought it was a horrible scream he did until I saw it the other day. Its pretty timid by todays standards.
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,112MI6 Agent
    Vandrell wrote:
    When I was a kid Benecio Del Toro going into the grinder in LTK really disturbed me. I always thought it was a horrible scream he did until I saw it the other day. Its pretty timid by todays standards.

    I've always wondered how that effect is achieved. Listened to the audio commentaries and watched all the docos and nothing
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    I like your choices and explanations, particularly your comments about Quarrel, Plenty O'Toole, Corrine and Della. But I'm curious about one thing - why no choices from the Craig films?

    Thanks Blackleiter.

    From the Craig era I would say Strawberry Fields death bothers me the most. Partly because it's an overly obvious reference to Goldfinger, but mainly I just really liked her character. She was fairly innocent and didn't deserve such a death. Kind of a downer for me.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    I like your choices and explanations, particularly your comments about Quarrel, Plenty O'Toole, Corrine and Della. But I'm curious about one thing - why no choices from the Craig films?

    Thanks Blackleiter.

    From the Craig era I would say Strawberry Fields death bothers me the most. Partly because it's an overly obvious reference to Goldfinger, but mainly I just really liked her character. She was fairly innocent and didn't deserve such a death. Kind of a downer for me.

    I agree that one was pretty sad.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    A lot of the earlier deaths were kind of fun. :) The movies occupied a cartoonish world somehow, even the Connery ones in a way. Craig's movies are in a more realistic world, and there isn't even the change in tone you would get in the earlier films, where it's an 'eat your greens' moment away from the fun.

    That said, Strawberry Fields did sleep with Bond without much persuading or derring do on his part so for that promiscuity she surely had it coming...
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Karin Dor being dropped into the Piranha pit is fairly disturbing. Think about how much that would suck.

    Another note about Vijay's death in OP: The look of sheer terror on his face and the fact that he wasn't killed instantly. How long was he lying on the beach, sawed in half, before Q eventually found him still alive ? yikes
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,112MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    Karin Dor being dropped into the Piranha pit is fairly disturbing. Think about how much that would suck.

    That was pretty disturbing. For a split second in a blink and you'll miss it moment you'll see a bone pop up
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  • BIG TAMBIG TAM Wrexham, North Wales, UK.Posts: 773MI6 Agent
    The Havelocks getting gunned down in FOR YOUR EYES ONLY is pretty downbeat. Ferrara's (off-camera) strangulation, also.

    Zorin's cold-blooded shooting of Howe in A VIEW TO A KILL. The machine-gunning of the mine workers from the same film.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Two great choices, Big Tam.
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  • 00-Agent00-Agent CaliforniaPosts: 453MI6 Agent
    Kerim Bay immediately pops to mind for me. What a great character.
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    BIG TAM wrote:
    The Havelocks getting gunned down in FOR YOUR EYES ONLY is pretty downbeat. Ferrara's (off-camera) strangulation, also.

    Zorin's cold-blooded shooting of Howe in A VIEW TO A KILL. The machine-gunning of the mine workers from the same film.

    Good ones. I had forgotten about the Havelocks. RIP
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    Karin Dor being dropped into the Piranha pit is fairly disturbing. Think about how much that would suck.

    That was pretty disturbing. For a split second in a blink and you'll miss it moment you'll see a bone pop up

    I always wondered if it was the bone from the leg if lamb Blofeld threw in the pool, or Olga's bone... Grisly :#
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  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    I'd say Kerim Bey, but Dad told me the more he saw of the film, the more he saw it coming, for the simple reason "you'd have to bring him back now and then, Pedro Armendariz had passed away, and I started expecting it once he shot Krilencu". With that said, it was probably the most saddening, even though he did guess right. And I agree.

    The only death scene in both brutality AND occurance that actually took Dad by surprise was the Severnaya Massacre. As it was my first Bond film in the theater, I would agree. You almost expected Ourumov and Onatopp to be walking in on the former's flunkies.
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  • BodieBodie Posts: 211MI6 Agent
    Mathis - because it was so unnecessary and such as waste of a good character who could have been utilised in future movies.

    The death of other characters such as Tracey, Vesper, Kerin Bey etc. are necessary for the plot but Mathis's death served absolutely no useful function. As a character he was written with more depth than Felix and it would have been great to see him again.

    For that matter Field's death was totally unnecessary as well. It wasn't as if Bond needed another reason to go after Quantum, but that about sums up QOS.
  • Colonel ShatnerColonel Shatner Chavtastic Bristol, BritainPosts: 574MI6 Agent
    edited August 2013
    ^Better people have died young because of more stupid and pointless reasons. That's life.
    That said, Strawberry Fields did sleep with Bond without much persuading or derring do on his part so for that promiscuity she surely had it coming...

    No, you're playing too much into the hands of older, more bigoted story tropes (like the black guy not surviving in horror/sci-fi thrillers, etc), the real reason she got it was in reprisal for her tripping Elvis down a long flight of stairs.

    Dear God, this thread has made me realise that the James Bond character is either a borderline sociopath or good at bottling up a lot of hurt emotions and regret stemming from the sheer weight of survivor's guilt. Especially when some of his closer partners (like Aki and Tracy) were tragically murdered entirely due to botched attempts on Bond's life.

    The James Bond franchise dabbles a lot in the Women in Refrigerators and Plucky Sidekick Tragically Killed plot devices.
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  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,112MI6 Agent
    edited August 2013
    Firemass wrote:
    Karin Dor being dropped into the Piranha pit is fairly disturbing. Think about how much that would suck.

    That was pretty disturbing. For a split second in a blink and you'll miss it moment you'll see a bone pop up

    I always wondered if it was the bone from the leg if lamb Blofeld threw in the pool, or Olga's bone... Grisly :#


    Definitely Helga's bone. During the demonstration of the piranhas to the two financiers, Hans had a length of string tied to the meat and he pulls the bone up after the meat has been eaten
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