Bond vs nazi

schaduwoogschaduwoog Posts: 97MI6 Agent
in SPECTRE - Bond 24 (2015)
I would like to have a plot where Bond discovers his enemy is a Nazi. Doesn't have to be the next film, but it would be great. They have to give it an original twist. In one of the novels, there's a nazi enemy I believe.
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  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    Both Moonraker and Icebreaker feature this. It might be an interesting plot idea.
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    I think we should be past this now...I wouldn't like to see a Bond film with a direct(ish) reference to Nazi's....
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  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,638MI6 Agent
    I agree with Sir Miles. Sadly, although there are plenty of neo-Nazis and sympathisers in the world today, to have Bond battling an actual Nazi (ie: red armband/jackboots etc) does seem a bit odd when there are plenty of other threats and of course any genuine WW2-vintage Nazi would be at least 90 years old. A villain with fascist tendencies is one thing, but then it could be argued that most fictional villains have fascist tendencies regardless of their political or megalomaniacal leanings!
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Pardon?
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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    Thunderpussy wrote:
    Pardon?

    I think he's undecided :s
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    Pardon?

    I said...

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    I am a tad opposed to the idea.
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Asp9mm wrote:
    I am a tad opposed to the idea.

    Well why didn't you say ? 8-)
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    I prefer subtle and understatement.
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Ah...well just don't be too ambiguous :D
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I just want to be clear, Asp9mm doesn't want Bond taking on the Nazis.
    That's Indy's gig, is it not. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    I just want to be clear, Asp9mm doesn't want Bond taking on the Nazis.
    That's Indy's gig, is it not. :))

    Damn straight. He hates those guys!
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  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    totally agree with ASP9MM no Nazis ,im sure we covered this a while ago in fact it was me that was totally opposed to the idea
    the Nazis had their time ,and they blew it ,It would be totally unfair to the people of Germany ,who have made great strides to
    get past this episode in their history .I know my family in sarrbruken would agree and also our very own German friends /agents
    there are plenty of nut jobs that Bond could be dealing with
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    edited October 2013
    I think Bond vs nazis would work better in novels. I think young Bond could continue and include with a series where Bond is fighting WWII. It could also be interesting in a continuation novel. I just read a book about Prince Junio Valerio Scipione Borghese, who commanded the Italian frogmen in WWII. After WWII he attempted a coup. I think a character like him would be an interesting and formidalbel villan in the 1950's -70's.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    There's no problem with him battling neo-Nazis, though that was done more or less in The Quiller Memorandum. To battle a WWII Nazi would require the villain to be in his 80s at the youngest, unless they add some science fiction-y element involvement genetic experiments or something like that. But we've seen "Nazis" crop up in some form or another -- Stamper, Mortner, etc.
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    There's no problem with him battling neo-Nazis, though that was done more or less in The Quiller Memorandum. To battle a WWII Nazi would require the villain to be in his 80s at the youngest, unless they add some science fiction-y element involvement genetic experiments or something like that. But we've seen "Nazis" crop up in some form or another -- Stamper, Mortner, etc.

    I assumed we were talking abou Neos here.
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  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    There's a million & one types of bad guy, devious megalomaniac or shady organisation I'd rather they pursued than any form of (Neo) Nazi bunch.

    Might just be me, but I can't see the basis or need for this line of approach tbh.
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,906Chief of Staff
    I think the problem with having Bond battle neo-Nazis is the same as the problem with having him battle al Qaeda--they're too real, too close to home, and even tasteless to use as villains in an escapist movie. I would only cringe seeing Bond with a dark-eyed, dark-skinned heroine being confronted by a skinhead with swastikas tattooed on his neck saying, "'Ere Bond, ya race-traitor!"
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    The idea is a bit cheap. It pops up in these 1970s films that don't really convince. It is a tad tasteless too, I mean, come to think of it the only thing they'll be bringing to the table is racism and genocide, at least in WW2 movies there seems something other than that, territorial gain, you wouldn't get neo-Nazis doing being about that. Iit would be more about the even more unsavoury elements.

    "The Nazis had their time and they blew it" is a summation that Laurence Olivier would have paid hard cash to narrate... :))

    But I would like to see a German as a Craig Bond ally, something that has never happened in Fleming novel or Bond film, and I'd nominate the actor who starred as Nikki Lauder in Rush.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • DaltonFan1DaltonFan1 The West of IrelandPosts: 503MI6 Agent
    I think "Nazi" is just a very cheap way of labeling the villain.
    And actual neo-nazis are little more than football hooligans, well beneath Bond.
    They're more suited to those ridiculous Taken films.
    “Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to a better understanding of ourselves.” - Carl Jung
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    "The Nazis had their time and they blew it" is a summation that Laurence Olivier would have paid hard cash to narrate... :))

    ah thank you very much :)
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • jasper_lamar_crabbjasper_lamar_crabb Posts: 169MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    I think we should be past this now..
    If only, but nazis, fascists and the like still exist in our world today. I think we could all get behind 007 taking them on.
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    I think it's a great idea!

    Instead of quantum or spectre as a front company though, how about Man U footy club?

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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    jasper_lamar_crabb wrote:
    fascists and the like still exist in our world today

    So true, unfortunately.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    minigeff wrote:
    I think it's a great idea!

    Instead of quantum or spectre as a front company though, how about Man U footy club?

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    One of the things you should know about us, is that we have people everywhere. :D :007)
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    What I find funny, is That these big clubs and Other Business pay a fortune to media specalists, Who are
    supposed to be experts in the field. Yet still Time after Time slip up with something that thay can see nothing
    wrong with. :))
    There is a Great comedy on BBC radio 4 " Clare in the Community" this week almost as an example, they had
    someone make up a poster for a night listening to Children plaving violins. Luckily someone pointed out the
    flyer they had printed would cause a lot of problems as it stated,
    " Fancy a nights Kiddie Fiddling " :))
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Reminds of a college project to design a drinks vessel. The usual and expected mugs, cups, beakers and bottles were aplenty.

    My mates boat with 'Pepsi' written on the side was quite unique though.
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  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,638MI6 Agent
    I could just see Alex Ferguson stroking a cat. Just a shame he had a falling-out with Keano because he'd have been a great henchman!
  • schaduwoogschaduwoog Posts: 97MI6 Agent
    Yes I meant Neo nazis. Thnx for The Quiller Memorandum. Never heard of it, Im gonna watch it some day soon.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Bond Vs Simon Cowell

    Thats the rumours ive heard!!
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