Worst PTS sequence?

DieAnotherDayDieAnotherDay Glasgow, ScotlandPosts: 460MI6 Agent
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Although there is none I truly despise I'd have to say TMWTGG is my least favourite. It just doesn't excite me at all anymore and seems to be there just so the finale of the film is given a little more substance.
....and the best he ever managed was a sermon on the mount.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    For me the PTS of LALD is pretty weak, I know it's needed to set up the story, it just seems
    a little lack luster. Same with TMWTGG, not that they're bad just not as impressive or
    Imaginative as some of the others.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    I'd go with TMWTGG, at least LALD has an eerie, otherworldly flavour and segues into Wings' brilliant song, it establishes Bond's world before he appears in it, rather as did Dr No.

    LTK also sucks in my view, though the last Batman paid homage to it, or rather did it better.
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  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    It might not be the worst action wise but I think the PTS of TWINE is just too long. The original idea was to end the PTS after 007 escapes from the window in Bilbao, I would have liked that better.
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • DieAnotherDayDieAnotherDay Glasgow, ScotlandPosts: 460MI6 Agent
    Peppermill wrote:
    It might not be the worst action wise but I think the PTS of TWINE is just too long. The original idea was to end the PTS after 007 escapes from the window in Bilbao, I would have liked that better.

    Yeah, I think all of Brosnan's PTS were slightly too long but they were always action packed.
    ....and the best he ever managed was a sermon on the mount.
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    I'd honestly say Moonraker. I know that the free-falling was impressive, and I respect it for that, but Jaws flapping his arms to circus music and surviving that fall just ruins it for me.

    Or maybe QOS actually... Or DAF... One of those three anyway!
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I agree about the pts of LTK, ( I love the film by the way ) When I first watched it
    I thought they had started to run out of ideas. Bond flapping about, for me anyway
    Just looks embarrassing. It's one of those (Face in palm momments ),although I'd
    love to have My face in Pam. :))
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  • BIG TAMBIG TAM Wrexham, North Wales, UK.Posts: 773MI6 Agent
    Even though they don't feature Bond, I've always liked the openings to LALD & TMWTGG. The latter's funhouse stalking is to my mind better then the eventual Bond/Scaramanga face-off which drags a bit.

    Never been too keen on YOLT. Space stuff & music good but Bond being flung into the wall & shot feels too contrived at trying to fool the audience. Hard to believe I'm typing this about Bond whose plots are scant on logic most of the time anyway, but this one really doesn't make any sense.

    AVTAK. Good ski stuff ruined by California Girls. And it's not even the original Beach Boys version!

    LTK. Terrific film marred by a substandard opening. Worse given how good the previous Dalton opener was. But I do like the parachuting into the wedding ceremony bit.
  • DieAnotherDayDieAnotherDay Glasgow, ScotlandPosts: 460MI6 Agent
    FYEO is another weak PTS in my opinion, It just feels so disconnected to the actual film. It doesn't connect to the eventual plot in anyway but instead just feels like a random assassination of a criminal (Blofeld presumably)...it almost seems like a joke.
    ....and the best he ever managed was a sermon on the mount.
  • Sir Hillary BraySir Hillary Bray College of ArmsPosts: 2,174MI6 Agent
    Dr. No. :D

    Seriously, my vote would go to LALD. Just a little too flimsy, even with the nice dissolve from a dying Baines to the fantastic theme song, as Nap mentions.
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    DieAnotherDay wrote:
    Although there is none I truly despise I'd have to say TMWTGG is my least favourite. It just doesn't excite me at all anymore and seems to be there just so the finale of the film is given a little more substance.

    TMWTGG gets my vote, too.
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    LALD- Diplomats dying is fairly boring and not featuring Bond was a mistake. At least TMWTGG is more entertaining with the house of mirrors.

    FRWL- The whole "realistic Bond mask" idea is such a joke.

    FYEO - Helicopter stunts and gasworks location were great but the corny dialog and soundtrack really bring this one down.

    OHMSS - Bond in a cigarette advert. Suicide scene makes little sense taken out of context of the main storyline. Tracy's head never even dips underwater yet she somehow almost drowned?! Who were the henchmen anyway? This clunker gets my vote.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • DieAnotherDayDieAnotherDay Glasgow, ScotlandPosts: 460MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    LALD- Diplomats dying is fairly boring and not featuring Bond was a mistake. At least TMWTGG is more entertaining with the house of mirrors.

    FRWL- The whole "realistic Bond mask" idea is such a joke.

    FYEO - Helicopter stunts and gasworks location were great but the corny dialog and soundtrack really bring this one down.

    OHMSS - Bond in a cigarette advert. Suicide scene makes little sense taken out of context of the main storyline. Tracy's head never even dips underwater yet she somehow almost drowned?! Who were the henchmen anyway? This clunker gets my vote.

    OHMSS PTS is a bit of a mess but I just admire the way it was shot. So mysterious & different from anything the Bond series had seen before :D
    ....and the best he ever managed was a sermon on the mount.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    DieAnotherDay wrote:
    Firemass wrote:
    LALD- Diplomats dying is fairly boring and not featuring Bond was a mistake. At least TMWTGG is more entertaining with the house of mirrors.

    FRWL- The whole "realistic Bond mask" idea is such a joke.

    FYEO - Helicopter stunts and gasworks location were great but the corny dialog and soundtrack really bring this one down.

    OHMSS - Bond in a cigarette advert. Suicide scene makes little sense taken out of context of the main storyline. Tracy's head never even dips underwater yet she somehow almost drowned?! Who were the henchmen anyway? This clunker gets my vote.

    OHMSS PTS is a bit of a mess but I just admire the way it was shot. So mysterious & different from anything the Bond series had seen before :D

    I agree, I have always enjoyed the PTS from OHMSS. I thought it was a good way to introduce the "new" Bond.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I thought it was a brilliant way to introduce a new Bond, showing the cigarette case and lighter.
    After all the Suicide starts the novel, with a great fist fight thrown in to show how the new guy
    could handle the action scenes. :D
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Sir Hillary Bray wrote:
    Dr. No. :D

    Seriously, my vote would go to LALD. Just a little too flimsy, even with the nice dissolve from a dying Baines to the fantastic theme song, as Nap mentions.

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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    I thought it was a brilliant way to introduce a new Bond, showing the cigarette case and lighter.
    After all the Suicide starts the novel, with a great fist fight thrown in to show how the new guy
    could handle the action scenes. :D

    +1.

    One of the best PTSs and the way it introduced Bond, part of a slow reveal, was used again to introduce both Dalton and Brosnan.

    The OHMSS PTS cinematography, music, setting and a standout fight sequence make it one of my two or three favourite PTSs along with Goldfinger, TSWLM, and TND.
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    After all the Suicide starts the novel, with a great fist fight thrown in to show how the new guy
    could handle the action scenes. :D

    I recall the suicide attempt coming after her embarrassing loss at the casino.

    Brilliant way to show cigarettes maybe, but doesn't do much to introduce a new Bond. Filthy habit...
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • Sir Hillary BraySir Hillary Bray College of ArmsPosts: 2,174MI6 Agent
    Napoleon Plural wrote:
    Sir Hillary Bray wrote:
    Dr. No. :D

    Seriously, my vote would go to LALD. Just a little too flimsy, even with the nice dissolve from a dying Baines to the fantastic theme song, as Nap mentions.

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  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    For me the PTS of LALD is pretty weak, I know it's needed to set up the story, it just seems
    a little lack luster. Same with TMWTGG, not that they're bad just not as impressive or
    Imaginative as some of the others.

    Yes, with these two movies that have a new Bond, following Connery and with the purpose of the PTS to give audiences a jump-start and taste of what big things are yet to come in the movie, they really needed to ask themselves what they were thinking?
    "...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia, PAPosts: 754MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    For me the PTS of LALD is pretty weak, I know it's needed to set up the story, it just seems
    a little lack luster. Same with TMWTGG, not that they're bad just not as impressive or
    Imaginative as some of the others.

    Agreed that LALD is a little weak. That being said it leads into a great title sequence and it seems like they want to hold off on introducing Moore until the right moment. It pays off in the end, but if you're judging the PTS by its merits alone, then it is one of the weaker efforts.

    Diamonds are Forever is probably my least favorite, but that goes for many aspects of the movie. I don't think campy Connery works because of his established persona in the first five films (though one can argue that YOLT starts to get a little campy). In addition, it is just a bad successor in style to OHMSS. Completely takes any emotion out of what happened at the end of OHMSS if you are watching the two in succession.

    AVTAK was a huge missed opportunity for me as well. Snowboarding was pretty unknown at that point and so having Moore use a skimobile's track as a snowboard was very cool and yet they managed to make it incredibly silly because of the California Girls song.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    LALD's was a little weak, TMWTGG's was really good IMO, but MR's was the worst for me.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,112MI6 Agent
    I liked the titles of MR. good song as well. I like the asian themes in YOLT's title sequence
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  • ZorinIndustriesZorinIndustries United StatesPosts: 837MI6 Agent
    I'd say LALD. I understand it sets up the film perfectly, but without Bond, a PTS is not a PTS.
    "Better luck next time... slugheads!"

    1. GoldenEye 2. Goldfinger 3. Skyfall 4. OHMSS 5. TWINE
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    It wasn't the worst, but the sequence in the overrated Goldeneye drew jitters in the packed theater when Pierce Brosnan is trying to catch up with the falling plane. The closeup with him obviously in a studio is where people laughed, and I had to sink in my chair a bit.

    I didn't mind the Moore sequences because they were consistent with his type of Bond, though A View to a Kill felt flimsy and cobbled together from previous Bonds . . .the faux Beach Boys music also did not help.

    Connery's return in Diamonds are Forever doesn't strike me as a high point in the pre-titles sequences, though it gets better for me when he dispatches "Blofeld."

    But I would have to agree that the sequence in The Man with the Golden Gun is probably my least favorite.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    the sequence in The Man with the Golden Gun is probably my least favorite.
    Respect waning here... :s
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    the sequence in The Man with the Golden Gun is probably my least favorite.
    Respect waning here... :s

    Uh oh! Looks like I might be in trouble according to your esteem meter, because I agree with Gassy on this one.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Blackleiter wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    the sequence in The Man with the Golden Gun is probably my least favorite.
    Respect waning here... :s

    Uh oh! Looks like I might be in trouble according to your esteem meter, because I agree with Gassy on this one.
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    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Blackleiter wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Respect waning here... :s

    Uh oh! Looks like I might be in trouble according to your esteem meter, because I agree with Gassy on this one.
    This is for the both of you:
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    I will now turn my attention to working my way out.............................. :D
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    the sequence in The Man with the Golden Gun is probably my least favorite.
    Respect waning here... :s
    Haha, well, I'm not saying I hate it, just that it's my least favorite.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
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    Blackleiter wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    the sequence in The Man with the Golden Gun is probably my least favorite.
    Respect waning here... :s

    Uh oh! Looks like I might be in trouble according to your esteem meter, because I agree with Gassy on this one.
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