I need your help to get Ian Fleming a posthumous knighthood

James007SweeneyJames007Sweeney Posts: 54MI6 Agent
in General James Bond Chat
I am disgusted to learn that Ian Fleming has gone un-noticed by the government and crown. Ian Fleming did not just create James Bond he also created Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and on top of this served his country with highest dignity during world war 2. Mr Flemings own work within Naval Intelligence saved lives and helped bring the war to an end. Yet they hand out knighthoods willy nilly to sportsmen and actors one of which for playing Mr Fleming's creation. Lets put this right and sign this petition to present to downing street http://www.petitions24.com/sir_ian_fleming please spread this bond fans around all the forum and social network sites this is your mission!. :)
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  • Ens007Ens007 EnglandPosts: 863MI6 Agent
    Sadly (and I stand to be corrected on this), I'm fairly sure that there's very little chance of this happening. I know of a number of similar cases that have been brought to the fore & they've fallen on stoney ground - the former legendary Liverpool football manager Bob Paisley springs to mind recently.

    Sorry to sound like I'm potentially slashing on your chips, but the way they govern this doesn't appear to allow for such cases sadly ... No matter how worthy the case.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Agreed, I don't think you can get a posthumous knighthood, as when you die you stop being a Knight.
    But I could be wrong.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,636MI6 Agent
    Ens007 and Thunderpussy are correct. There is no way to posthumously award a knighthood to anyone. Although knighthoods have been given to deceased people, in all cases the honours were offered-to and accepted-by the individual prior to their death, it was only the public announcement of the award that was made after their death. Any petition is a waste of time as the rules governing peerage will not change and if they did, can you imagine how wide the flood gates would open? Thanks to the internet, millions would push for awards for the flavour-of-the-month recently-deceased celebrity rather than the truly deserving. I in no way suggest that Fleming is not worthy because literary skills aside, he has been a fantastic ambassador for the UK and a money-maker for the economy for decades if nothing else, but he has wonderful company amongst the non-knighted.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,447Chief of Staff
    As said above...it can't happen....and Thunderpussy is correct - for once :D - once you die, you are no longer a knight of the realm.
    YNWA 97
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I knew watching QI would pay off some day. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • StrangewaysStrangeways London, UKPosts: 1,469MI6 Agent
    I agree with everyone here!
    Shame, but there it is.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    As said above...it can't happen....and Thunderpussy is correct - for once :D - once you die, you are no longer a knight of the realm.

    You mean that we have to kill TP - and would it be only for the reason (or better excuse) to prevent that he's getting knighted :D

    I knew that it exists: Murder in good faith :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Luckily I don't agree with the Honours system, so you can lift the contract. :p :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • jimmyunderscorebondjimmyunderscorebond Posts: 16MI6 Agent
    It probably won't happen, but I'm willing to sign
    The petition anyway. As a sign of good faith.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,447Chief of Staff
    jimmyunderscorebond wrote:
    It probably won't happen, but I'm willing to sign
    The petition anyway. As a sign of good faith.

    Which is nice of you...but as already explained...its impossible to knight a dead person....once you die you stop being a knight of the realm...so this is, I'm afraid, pointless.
    YNWA 97
  • Sir Hillary BraySir Hillary Bray College of ArmsPosts: 2,174MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    ...its impossible to knight a dead person...
    So this explains Keith Richards then?
    Hilly...you old devil!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,447Chief of Staff
    Sir Hillary Bray wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    ...its impossible to knight a dead person...
    So this explains Keith Richards then?

    I'm not sure anybody could explain Keith Richards :))
    YNWA 97
  • SherbrookSherbrook Melbourne AustraliaPosts: 137MI6 Agent
    Sir Hillary Bray wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    ...its impossible to knight a dead person...
    So this explains Keith Richards then?

    The jury is still out on whether Keith is dead or not
    I must be dreaming
  • James007SweeneyJames007Sweeney Posts: 54MI6 Agent
    Sherbrook wrote:
    Sir Hillary Bray wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    ...its impossible to knight a dead person...
    So this explains Keith Richards then?

    The jury is still out on whether Keith is dead or not

    We could counter this and really annoy the establishment, if we can get 20,000 people to sign saying they believe that Flemmings books are the bible and 007 is their god the law of the UK would have to acknowledge the existance of the Bond Religion LOL!
    You only live twice: Once when you are born. And once when you look death in the face.
  • Mr MalloryMr Mallory North by northwestPosts: 632MI6 Agent
    Now a Religion. That's a good idea. What would we be known as.
    What makes you think this is my first time?
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,447Chief of Staff
    James007Sweeney wrote:
    Sherbrook wrote:
    Sir Hillary Bray wrote:
    So this explains Keith Richards then?

    The jury is still out on whether Keith is dead or not

    We could counter this and really annoy the establishment, if we can get 20,000 people to sign saying they believe that Flemmings books are the bible and 007 is their god the law of the UK would have to acknowledge the existance of the Bond Religion LOL!

    I don't think they care, tbh...its been done by the Star Wars freaks...just makes those people look silly, IMO....
    YNWA 97
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,524Chief of Staff
    Mr Mallory wrote:
    Now a Religion. That's a good idea. What would we be known as.

    Double-O Seventh Day Adventists
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Mr Mallory wrote:
    Now a Religion. That's a good idea. What would we be known as.

    Double-O Seventh Day Adventists

    :)) :)) :)) Good one!
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :)) " Here endith the lesson, Gentlemen "
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Mr Mallory wrote:
    Now a Religion. That's a good idea. What would we be known as.

    Double-O Seventh Day Adventists

    Haha brilliant! :)) :)) :))
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,524Chief of Staff
    :) Thanks guys.
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,504MI6 Agent
    Mr Mallory wrote:
    Now a Religion. That's a good idea. What would we be known as.

    Geeks.

    Nothing to change.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,524Chief of Staff
    Undeniable, but there are lots of geeks pursuing different subjects.
  • Mr MalloryMr Mallory North by northwestPosts: 632MI6 Agent
    What's best Geek or Nerd ?
    What makes you think this is my first time?
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,524Chief of Staff
    It's all Geek to me.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I prefer geeky nerds!
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    You know, Canonization is posthumous, so maybe we should be pushing for Saint Fleming?

    (Patron saint of Martinis, girls and guns?) :s
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    That's a very sensible argument C&D, The only problem is if I think it's sensible
    Then it's probably not. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,524Chief of Staff
    Sainthood is surely Roger Moore's area!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    and he's already a knight, so he's fully covered. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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