IMDB Ratings as of 31/01/14
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IMDB Ratings for each bond film as of 31/01/14
CR - 8.0
GF - 7.8
SF - 7.8
FRWL - 7.5
DN - 7.3
GE - 7.2
TSWLM - 7.1
TB - 7.0
YOLT - 6.9
LALD - 6.8
OHMSS - 6.8
FYEO - 6.8
TMWTGG - 6.8
QOS - 6.7
TLD - 6.7
DAF - 6.7
LTK - 6.6
OP - 6.6
TND - 6.4
TWINE - 6.4
AVTAK - 6.3
MR - 6.2
DAD - 6.1
What are your thoughts?
It seems that the Dalton films aren't too popular, which is a shame.
I was personally shocked that TMTWGG has such a high score - nothing against it but I always thought it was regarded as much weaker than the score it has...
CR - 8.0
GF - 7.8
SF - 7.8
FRWL - 7.5
DN - 7.3
GE - 7.2
TSWLM - 7.1
TB - 7.0
YOLT - 6.9
LALD - 6.8
OHMSS - 6.8
FYEO - 6.8
TMWTGG - 6.8
QOS - 6.7
TLD - 6.7
DAF - 6.7
LTK - 6.6
OP - 6.6
TND - 6.4
TWINE - 6.4
AVTAK - 6.3
MR - 6.2
DAD - 6.1
What are your thoughts?
It seems that the Dalton films aren't too popular, which is a shame.
I was personally shocked that TMTWGG has such a high score - nothing against it but I always thought it was regarded as much weaker than the score it has...
1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
Comments
DAF seems to always get an inflated score on these polls. Probably due to Connery, folks automatically rate it higher. Same goes for Thunderball...no way does it deserve to be in the 7 and up club.
IMDB is a tough crowd. You almost have to grade it on a curve with CR's 8.0 being a perfect score.
Funny that DAD is considered the worst because Lee Tamohri specifically stated on the special features that no director wants to be stuck with the reputation of making the worst. Plus, DAD was a huge hit upon it's release and critically acclaimed as well. I predict Skyfall will suffer the same fate as it does not hold up well on repeat viewings.
It's a testament to the high quality of the Bond series that no film scored under a 6.0. I was just looking at how quickly other film series have fallen apart, for example Superman III got a 4.9 and IV got a 3.9. Robocop II has a 5.6 and Robocop III has a 3.8
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Of course - because Connery's presence alone adds a few points to any Bond film!
For the spectacle but the Connery Bonds for, .......... Well, Connery
Wise man!
Very true.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Hell, I know I"ve rated movies and games before only to come back years later and go "wow.. I really rated it that back then? Man, really changed on that didn't I?!"
are the best Bonds ever ! Then carry on thinking that.
Thanks. We appreciate your support.
...and don't let anyone try to talk you out of believing that LTK and OHMSS are among the best ever.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
When considering the "average" ranking, the ones that stand out as surprising to me in the IMDB list is TMWTGG and FYEO.
I'd venture to guess that in the early 2000's, OHMSS probably was near the bottom. It has definitely picked up more respect in recent years since Craig has taken over and has gotten a lot more internet support.
EDIT: I stand corrected, I went on the Internet Wayback Machine and in 2005, OHMSS still had a solid 6.7.
Same here.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Honestly, I'm doing this just to have an argument when somebody will try to argue with me that the old stuff is better. I read "Casino Royale" by Fleming (sadly only that one as for now) and for me (not to mention Craig's Bond of course) the closest creation to the book-Bond was Connery in Dr No and From Russia With Love (with the first one being actually better). I don't really appreciate the gadget stuff in the other Connery movies, poor visual effects (I know it was the 60' but damn!) and joking around in the Moore films! As for Lazenby it was a complete car crash for me, he doesn't have the charm, nor the looks of an agent (actually none of these gentlemen was looking like an ex-SBS royal marine unfortunately).
Of course it's not the first time I'm watching them, but last time I watched some of these movies was probably 10 years ago! Currently I'm 23 and I think it's actually true that one's favorite Bond is the one who you were growing up with, for me it was Craig.
My thoughts are that there were far more "casual" fans voting than there were hard core "Flemingists". How could Casino Royale, Goldfinger and Skyfall rank higher than the masterpiece that is From Russia With Love? How could On Her Majesty's Secret Service, which is an excellent and faithful adaptation of the novel, be ranked somewhere in the middle? Or Dalton - who played Bond as near as damnit to the original Fleming source material as any other actor to have attempted the role - not have his two films feature highly?
Not always true: older films aren't necessarily better than newer ones. Casino Royale is way better than Moonraker, for instance.
But I do think that generally speaking, older Bond films are more faithful to the original Fleming source, and from where I'm standing, that alone is worth a lot of "points" in my rankings, anyway.
Agreed. I think On Her Majesty's Secret Service was also another one that was almost lifted straight from the book.
But then there are the films that lift certain elements of the character and/or the story from the Fleming novels - namely, Casino Royale, For Your Eyes Only, The Living Daylights, Thunderball, Goldfinger and others, which makes them all terrific films.
On the other hand, there are those that have virtually no resemblance to the novel from which it is purportedly based - for example, Moonraker and The Spy Who Loved Me, which I consider to be rather low in my rankings.
Personally, I don't buy that argument. Moore was Bond when I was born. The first Bond film I watched was a replay of The Man With the Golden Gun on TV. While I have a soft spot for that film, it is by no means one of the best. The first Bond I watched in the cinema was Goldeneye when I was 14 years old, which I thought was disappointing after my first viewing, but have slowly grown to like it. So it can be argued that I "grew up" with Brosnan being Bond, but he is by no means my favourite Bond. Connery is, followed very closely by Dalton, because both of them played a very "Fleming-esque" Bond - Connery in his first two, and Dalton in both of his Bond films.
I guess the difference, however, is that between watching The Man With the Golden Gun at a very young age (I couldn't have been older than 8 or 9 at the time, and watching Goldeneye in the cinema - in other words, during the six year hiatus - I watched a lot of the older Connery Bonds, as well as read all the Fleming novels, so that by the time I went to see Goldeneye, I had a fair idea of what Bond is meant to be. I guess that's why I have a preference for Bonds and Bond films that are as close as possible to the original Fleming source material.
I tend to agree with this assessment, although I'm a big fan of all of the Connery films, not just the first two.
Not likely. It's impossible to even compare a Bond film with a "normal" movie.
007 is something special. Well, except for the new Craig era films that pride themselves in being normal action films like Bourne Identity.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Some good points there Mr Zareba, but Bond was a Commander in Naval Intelligence and served in the RNVR (Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve), rather than an ex-SBS Royal Marine. So most of the actors portray Bond more in that vein.
The thing that struck me when I reviewed the list was how poorly Brosnan's films perform. I use IMDB quite a lot and typically (as you'd expect) newer films perform much better than older ones. But here we see three of Brosnan's four in the bottom 5 on the list. Strange?
All right, I don't how it was portrayed in the book... Craig's Bond was definitely in the Special Boat Service (it was mentioned in the Casino Royale dossier).
I like the Craig films quite a bit, but "better" than the old Connery films? No sir!
It's been estimated that over 1 Billion people have seen a Bond Film. Of those people, I would venture a guess that less than 5% have seen every Bond film, quite possibly even less than that (1-3%?).
Furthermore, among all the hardcore Bond fans, many of them are not Flemingists. Many hardcore Bond film fans have not read the books. In fact, I think its safe to say that more people voting on this poll think Fleming was a poor writer who had a good idea than are hardcore Flemingist fans.
Then again, the most hardcore are the most likely to vote (and vote again by creating separate accounts
In the end, people are simply rating the movie. I'd be surprised if more than 10% ever picked up a Fleming novel that voted on this poll.
The Bond genre is so all-inclusive and draws the interest of people for many different reasons. For that, it makes it very difficult to take any kind of style demographic of the voters.
For the record, I agree FRWL should be ahead of Goldfinger, and OHMSS, TLD, and LTK should all be higher. Oh and my favorite Bond might be Roger Moore. I have no idea what genre of fan I myself fit into
The nutty genre!
Might be! In high school I was bored by Dalton, now I love him. When I first watched through all the movies, there were only two movies I didn't enjoy. Now I even enjoy those. There is not one film I don't like anymore. Whenever I'm having a discussion with my friends on Bond, if there is a film they start to trash I will defend it whether it be on my personal #1 or 23. I can objectively rate a film based on it's artistic qualities, but that doesn't equal entertainment for me, which is the ultimate satisfaction when watching a movie.
It is an odd thing ( I'm sure many AJBers suffer from it ) Even if it's a Bond film I'm not
particularly fond of, once I read someone pointing out a flaw or basically slagging it off. I can't help rushing to its defence.
I hear you, my friend, and I'm the same way to a certain extent. I am obviously not as fond of the Roger Moore films as I am of the others, but they're still Bond films that I enjoy on a certain level. Woe be to the person that tries to argue with me about the entertainment value of the Bond movies versus some of the other cinematic nonsense foisted upon the viewing public from time to time. They would be well-advised to keep it to themselves, because I'm not having it!
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