OHMSS was in no way a flop. No Bond film has ever been (even the 67 CR). Some do better than others, that's all. James Bond is one of the surest ways for a film company to print money. Makes me wonder why the films take so bloody long to be made!!!
Wasn't License the closest one of the Bonds got to be a flop in the US due to the poor marketing.
LTK still made significantly more money than what it costed.
But in terms of gross audience numbers, it was a flop - like TLD and AVATAK.
Every film producer wished they had a flop like that )
From what I recall it was North American audience figures that were well down on previous Bond films...and it was those figures that people latched on to to say the film was a flop...
I am pretty sure that LTK box office numbers in your local cinema where outstanding back then, Sir Miles - I am not sure if these where enough to convince the 007 producers that the movie was a blockbuster in the grand picture (sarcasm)
Sir Miles - you are aware that the US market was and still is the largest and most important market for an international movie franchise?
And the question is not if the producers made ANY profit with a certain movie - they asked how the profit was compared to other successful films from their franchise and there the Dalton movies and AVTAK simply stank!
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Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
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OHMSS was in no way a flop. No Bond film has ever been (even the 67 CR). Some do better than others, that's all. James Bond is one of the surest ways for a film company to print money. Makes me wonder why the films take so bloody long to be made!!!
Wasn't License the closest one of the Bonds got to be a flop in the US due to the poor marketing.
I think THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN was a poor grosser too. It started off well but interest soon tailed off.
I am pretty sure that LTK box office numbers in your local cinema where outstanding back then, Sir Miles - I am not sure if these where enough to convince the 007 producers that the movie was a blockbuster in the grand picture (sarcasm)
Sir Miles - you are aware that the US market was and still is the largest and most important market for an international movie franchise?
And the question is not if the producers made ANY profit with a certain movie - they asked how the profit was compared to other successful films from their franchise and there the Dalton movies and AVTAK simply stank!
I was just pointing out the facts...of course I know the North American market is important...but its not the be all and end all...and a profit is still where you make more money back then you spent, right ?
-{ It's a crying shame Lazenby didn't do more, but sadly he got bad advice.
Shame he bought into all that crap he was told. He could of been one of the great Bonds and it would be interesting to see how the series differs without Moore becoming Bond or even Connery going back for Diamonds.
Watching OHMS the other night,and in the scene where Bond pays a visit to the Heraldry college ,I noticed that he was wearing a pair of black leather driving gloves . Thinks to myself ,im sure I had a pair when I bought my first BM , and low and behold I found them They are the Hackett/ Aston Martin range gloves in black leather with British racing green stitching
now if I can only remember where my DB navy overcoat is 8-)
OHMSS is showing tomorrow at London's Prince Charles cinema. It is better on the big screen, the quality shines through and you can pick out the detail in the long shots.
I caught a bit the other night, and the safe cracking scene is tops, esp with Barry's Ipcress File-style music there. Compare it with the safe cracking scene in the one before, and there's no contest. It's great to see a Bond with star persona too, as Lazenby has and Craig doesn't imo. His expressions are just right. But... I don't know, any goodwill I have to the film swiftly fades. It's not just the way Bond flicks through a porno mag - can you imagine Connery's Bond in Dr No awaiting Prof Dent by pulling out a Playboy mag and leafing through it - it's the way we see M's residence, perhaps a little too grand? Or the realisation that Connery would say the lines so much better, and it would feel like we are on another level, seeing him at M's house, like being invited around to your best friend's place for tea as a kid. Or the awful dubbing Bond gets in Switzerland, or the way, again, Connery would deliver his 'unwittingly rude' lines to Irma Bunt about the baggy bits of a sale and so on. Or his digs at Blofeld's 'characteristic ambition' of leaving his mark on the world, Connery would milk that for humour, he would be putting his hosts' noses out of joint for the hell of it.
My basic feelings about OHMSS are generally summed up quit simply: It's a brilliant but flawed film. For the me the biggest flaw will always be Lazenby as Bond. He looks like Bond, dresses like Bond, fights like Bond, but when he opens his mouth, he just ain't Bond. I don't blame George however (prima donna / diva onset behavior aside) the blame rest with EON. They rationalized losing Connery by believing they could find a Bond clone and insert him into the Bond universe; of course the big difference was that Lazenby was not a real actor. Connery may have been rough around the edges, but he was a real actor with real talent and a natural screen presence and charisma that is unrivaled. Connery was also smart, hungry and independent enough to understand that Bond was his ticket to stardom and wealth. Lazenby as we know was just as immature a person as he was an actor and in fairness to EON, never allowed EON the chance to develope him into the role and as an actor.
Lazenby put in the best Performance he could, considering that it was his first full Film. If he had done more, his Perfomance would obviously grow and improve.
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Lazenby put in the best Performance he could, considering that it was his first full Film. If he had done more, his Perfomance would obviously grow and improve.
Exactly. I'm a Lazenby defender. I think he acquitted himself well in the Bond role considering he'd never acted before. -{
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
Lazenby put in the best Performance he could, considering that it was his first full Film. If he had done more, his Perfomance would obviously grow and improve.
Exactly. I'm a Lazenby defender. I think he acquitted himself well in the Bond role considering he'd never acted before. -{
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Lazenby put in the best Performance he could, considering that it was his first full Film. If he had done more, his Perfomance would obviously grow and improve.
Exactly. I'm a Lazenby defender. I think he acquitted himself well in the Bond role considering he'd never acted before. -{
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I forgot to say that OHMSS is my favourite film from the series as it's so different from anything else. Only SF comes close in my book. -{
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
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But in terms of gross audience numbers, it was a flop - like TLD and AVATAK.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Every film producer wished they had a flop like that
From what I recall it was North American audience figures that were well down on previous Bond films...and it was those figures that people latched on to to say the film was a flop...
Sir Miles - you are aware that the US market was and still is the largest and most important market for an international movie franchise?
And the question is not if the producers made ANY profit with a certain movie - they asked how the profit was compared to other successful films from their franchise and there the Dalton movies and AVTAK simply stank!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I think THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN was a poor grosser too. It started off well but interest soon tailed off.
It was not the marketing - the main actor was not widely accepted by the audience back then
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I was just pointing out the facts...of course I know the North American market is important...but its not the be all and end all...and a profit is still where you make more money back then you spent, right ?
Still one of my fav. Bonds... classic person and humble about the fans today…
Bond list should have been:
Connery Dr NO - YOLT
Lazenby OHMSS - FYEO
Dalton FYEO - DAD
Craig - CR -
OHMSS GREATTTTTTTTTT movie
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Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Apparently they don't do it anymore. Shame though as it would've been a great part of the Bond experience
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onion rings, I'd be happy.
As far as I know, they never did.
But they had a 007 breakfast combo (breakfast with some sparkling wine) which I have enjoyed twice
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
now if I can only remember where my DB navy overcoat is 8-)
because I noticed Roger Moore wore some in the Cannonball Run.
I caught a bit the other night, and the safe cracking scene is tops, esp with Barry's Ipcress File-style music there. Compare it with the safe cracking scene in the one before, and there's no contest. It's great to see a Bond with star persona too, as Lazenby has and Craig doesn't imo. His expressions are just right. But... I don't know, any goodwill I have to the film swiftly fades. It's not just the way Bond flicks through a porno mag - can you imagine Connery's Bond in Dr No awaiting Prof Dent by pulling out a Playboy mag and leafing through it - it's the way we see M's residence, perhaps a little too grand? Or the realisation that Connery would say the lines so much better, and it would feel like we are on another level, seeing him at M's house, like being invited around to your best friend's place for tea as a kid. Or the awful dubbing Bond gets in Switzerland, or the way, again, Connery would deliver his 'unwittingly rude' lines to Irma Bunt about the baggy bits of a sale and so on. Or his digs at Blofeld's 'characteristic ambition' of leaving his mark on the world, Connery would milk that for humour, he would be putting his hosts' noses out of joint for the hell of it.
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Exactly. I'm a Lazenby defender. I think he acquitted himself well in the Bond role considering he'd never acted before.
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I forgot to say that OHMSS is my favourite film from the series as it's so different from anything else. Only SF comes close in my book. -{