Orbital Space Laser Movies; DAF vs. DAD

chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
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Both OTT, both silly at times, both with a fairly lame villain characterization, both with a deadly space laser.
DAF is naff.
DAD is a DUD.

Which wins?

I love Pierce, but he is no Connery. Add to that John Barry & Ken Adam, and it's an easy choice for me.
Diamonds Are Forever.

You?
Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
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  • LegoBatman008LegoBatman008 USAPosts: 189MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Both OTT, both silly at times, both with a fairly lame villain characterization, both with a deadly space laser.
    DAF is naff.
    DAD is a DUD.

    Which wins?




    I love Pierce, but he is no Connery. Add to that John Barry & Ken Adam, and it's an easy choice for me.
    Diamonds Are Forever.

    You?

    To me, it all comes down to Halle Berry vs. Jill St. John and I just so happen to prefer Jill St. John.
    "Ahem, you know in the future if you're going to steal cars, don't dress like a car thief, man." - Spider-Man
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    Even though DAF is OTT it is nowhere near the level of DAD IMO. DAF is the far superior movie for me
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Jarvio wrote:
    Even though DAF is OTT it is nowhere near the level of DAD IMO. DAF is the far superior movie for me
    And it has a certain unmistakable charm to it, but since it was my first Bond movie, I may be prejudiced... 8-)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Jarvio wrote:
    Even though DAF is OTT it is nowhere near the level of DAD IMO. DAF is the far superior movie for me
    And it has a certain unmistakable charm to it, but since it was my first Bond movie, I may be prejudiced... 8-)

    I quite like DAF tbh. It has some really good scenes and Wint and Kidd are great, memorable henchmen
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Hmmmm......which one should I choose? My goodness, this is so hard for me. Okay, you twisted my arm - Diamonds Are Forever! :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Blackleiter wrote:
    Hmmmm......which one should I choose? My goodness, this is so hard for me. Okay, you twisted my arm - Diamonds Are Forever! :))
    Don't feel forced- if you like DAD better, no one will blame you... :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Blackleiter wrote:
    Hmmmm......which one should I choose? My goodness, this is so hard for me. Okay, you twisted my arm - Diamonds Are Forever! :))
    Don't feel forced- if you like DAD better, no one will blame you... :))

    Thank you for your words of encouragement. No danger of that happening, though! :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • Smiert-SpionamSmiert-Spionam Posts: 318MI6 Agent
    Connery V Brosnan - Connery wins
    Blofeld V Graves - Blofeld wins
    Wint & Kidd V Zao - Wint & Kidd win
    Peter Franks V Mr Kil - Franks wins
    Tiffany Case V Jinx - Tiffany wins (even though she annoys me)

    Throw in the fact that DAF features appearances from Felix and a John Barry score I think I'm going to give the victory to DAF. The only thing that DAD has going for it is the PTS.
    Smiert Spionam
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    -{ Nicely put Smiert - Spionam. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Smiert-Spionam wrote:
    Connery V Brosnan - Connery wins
    Blofeld V Graves - Blofeld wins
    Wint & Kidd V Zao - Wint & Kidd win
    Peter Franks V Mr Kil - Franks wins
    Tiffany Case V Jinx - Tiffany wins (even though she annoys me)

    While I agree with the previous list, there are more aspects:

    Triumph Stag vs Vanquish - Vanquish wins
    Moonbuggy chase vs ice chase - Ice chase wins
    medicore music score vs. David Arnold - Arnold wins
    Diamonds are forever song vs DAD song - DAF wins by a mile
    Oil rig location for the last minutes vs. Ice palace location - DAD wins
    PTS DAF vs. PTS DAD - DAD wins by a mile!
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    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,757Chief of Staff
    Bondtoys wrote:
    medicore music score vs. David Arnold - Arnold wins

    I've always thought DAF had one of the better Barry scores - far better than the film deserved !

    Who knew you were wrong so often, Bondtots ? :v :p :))
    YNWA 97
  • Smiert-SpionamSmiert-Spionam Posts: 318MI6 Agent
    True enough Bondtoys. My personal dislike for DAD took over for a second there :))

    Let me also point out that DAF also features appearances from Q and Lois Maxwell's Moneypenny. Another couple of big plus points in DAF's favour. Although let's not forget that DAF also feature's a rather disastrous appearance from Sean's toupee ;)
    Smiert Spionam
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,868Chief of Staff
    Bondtoys wrote:
    medicore music score vs. David Arnold - Arnold wins

    Diagnosis confirmed. There is a problem with your hearing.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Smiert-Spionam wrote:
    True enough Bondtoys. My personal dislike for DAD took over for a second there :))

    Let me also point out that DAF also features appearances from Q and Lois Maxwell's Moneypenny. Another couple of big plus points in DAF's favour. Although let's not forget that DAF also feature's a rather disastrous appearance from Sean's toupee ;)

    Actually I find Q's appearance in DAF pretty uninspired. I enjoyed Cleese in DAD much more
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Bondtoys wrote:
    medicore music score vs. David Arnold - Arnold wins

    Diagnosis confirmed. There is a problem with your hearing.

    I like the title song - though find the remaining score pretty boring compared to other Barry Marvels
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,868Chief of Staff
    It doesn't beat its predecessors, sure, but it sure beats DAD! :)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I love the theme song to DAF. -{ even the Arnold re-recording. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Bondtoys wrote:
    medicore music score vs. David Arnold - Arnold wins

    Diagnosis confirmed. There is a problem with your hearing.
    He probably loses the high notes. Eustachian tube problems, most likely. -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ZorinIndustriesZorinIndustries United StatesPosts: 837MI6 Agent
    I say DAD. It's more dimensional than DAF, in my opinion. I think Pierce gives a much better performance as James Bond, and I think the film takes twists and turns that keep me on the edge of my seat more than DAF.

    But props to Lee Tamahori for giving a little "nod and a wink" to Guy Hamilton. One of many "nod and winks"...
    "Better luck next time... slugheads!"

    1. GoldenEye 2. Goldfinger 3. Skyfall 4. OHMSS 5. TWINE
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Wildly inconsistent vs. Consistently weird

    At least D.A.D has moments of true greatness.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Yeah, the sword fight was awesome!
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,757Chief of Staff
    chrisisall wrote:
    Yeah, the sword fight was awesome!

    The sword fight is one of the single most embarrassing scenes in the whole series...anyone who has fenced just cringes as they watch it...you can see the actors 'waiting' for the other to catch up....truly appalling X-(
    YNWA 97
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    The sword fight is one of the single most embarrassing scenes in the whole series...anyone who has fenced just cringes as they watch it...you can see the actors 'waiting' for the other to catch up....truly appalling X-(
    I'm a martial artist and my Son did fencing, and yeah, the choreography is lacking in spots, but I appreciate it being the ACTORS mostly doing it. I own Mark Of Zorro if I want perfection, but the fight in DAD was well paced, edited & scored. Like Lee's stuff on Green Hornet, it's exciting ANYWAY. :D
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,817MI6 Agent
    Moonraker!

    Ok, Ok, the space stations laser was never fired, but as far as I'm concerned it still counts.

    Though the Icarus wins on destructive range, independent firepower, the Vanquish, and the Ice Palace is very impressive, and great effects. 5 points to DAD.

    Amsterdam is a nice location, Wint & Kidd are funny henchman, Jill St John is lovely and funny "blow up your pants!" , Connery still has it as his Bond. 5 points to DAF.

    Joint second place in my eyes.
    This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    I love Pierce, but he is no Connery.

    DAF Connery is no Connery. Pierce wins by a landslide in the Bond actor category for this matchup.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,757Chief of Staff
    chrisisall wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    The sword fight is one of the single most embarrassing scenes in the whole series...anyone who has fenced just cringes as they watch it...you can see the actors 'waiting' for the other to catch up....truly appalling X-(
    I'm a martial artist and my Son did fencing, and yeah, the choreography is lacking in spots, but I appreciate it being the ACTORS mostly doing it. I own Mark Of Zorro if I want perfection, but the fight in DAD was well paced, edited & scored. Like Lee's stuff on Green Hornet, it's exciting ANYWAY. :D

    Really ? It's just stupid...all that rolling around and you can clearly see that they are too slow...the editing is terrible also...they ARE actors, so I would expect FAR better from them...its just an embarrassment all round...
    YNWA 97
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    No where near as good as Sir Roger's handling of his weapon in Moonraker. ;) :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,757Chief of Staff
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    No where near as good as Sir Roger's handling of his weapon in Moonraker. ;) :))

    Fair point actually...that is miles better...now that IS a man who can keep his tip up :D
    YNWA 97
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Really ? It's just stupid...all that rolling around and you can clearly see that they are too slow...the editing is terrible also...they ARE actors, so I would expect FAR better from them...its just an embarrassment all round...
    Hmmm, the words chosen here... hhhmmmm..
    J'accuse!
    You have not seen this for a long time, have you, Sir Miles??? :v
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,757Chief of Staff
    chrisisall wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Really ? It's just stupid...all that rolling around and you can clearly see that they are too slow...the editing is terrible also...they ARE actors, so I would expect FAR better from them...its just an embarrassment all round...
    Hmmm, the words chosen here... hhhmmmm..
    J'accuse!
    You have not seen this for a long time, have you, Sir Miles??? :v

    I wish ! The amateurish nature of this fiasco is indelibly imprinted X-(
    YNWA 97
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