The theme of "failure" in Skyfall

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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    DC is a fine Stallion of a man. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    Craig Bond is anything but impotent, in fact he's too virile if virtually every lady (except that Anatolian bird he shacked up with in Skyfall) he had bedroom gymnastics with has died. :v

    M and Greene in Quantum of Solace taunted Bond over the death of Vesper and Fields for goodness sake. Severine died seemingly less than a day after Bond scored with her.

    I think we need a relatively lighter, more formulaic (but a bit more solidly written) Bond movie as an antidote to the experimentation with QoS and Skyfall.

    Fields died because of an overdose of KY jelly, she was all oiled up. (I'm sorry, I'm great at terrible jokes and terrible at great jokes).
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes it's the start of a slippery slope. :# :))
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Oh my Sides :#
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,856Chief of Staff
    Strawberries should be creamed, not oiled....
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    .... I hope you're not taking the Pith ! :# :p
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,856Chief of Staff
    The thought never occured to me.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    My Strawberry joke : ( as we're doing some bad jokes ) :))

    A man walks into his doctor's office and says, "Doc, you've got to help me; I've got a strawberry stuck up my bottom."
    The doctor pulls out his prescription pad and says, "I've got cream for that!"
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  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    I must admit, having read the lasf few detailed posts I agree I am missing the lighter fun aspects of the Bond universe in Skyfall. CR-06 stepped outsife the box and it did it brilliantly, in part because its an origin story. Many aspects work in that vein.
    However, when I watch the Sir Sean - Mr Brosnan films, its to be entertained, to have a smile on my face and to take pleasure from the sumtious locations, set pieces, gadgetry and Bond enjoying himself, having fun. LTK excepted. The Craig era films lack those last two elements. CR-06 has a tight storyline and good action, so I don't mind. QoS is a cold revenge fest, very grim for the most part and the humour is light, bordering on trite. By contrast though, there us a sense of ongoing gloom hanging over Skyfall, that makes it decent drama, good action but with a tired sense of apathy sitting over the characters throughout except Penny, Q and until he arrives in Scotland, Silva. All of them are a reworking of the past. Esp Silva as the delightfully twisted baddie. I loved the Sir Roger films as a kid, inc FYEO for the fun peppered through the drama. I am not sure the 8 year old me would feel the same about SF because of this sense of failure and fed up from the moment Bond is shot off that bridge!

    I think it hasn't done Batman any favours either!

    It must be a question of taste. I got more laughs out of the expression on Bond's face when Silva blew up the DB-5 than in all the Moore films put together.
  • Colonel ShatnerColonel Shatner Chavtastic Bristol, BritainPosts: 574MI6 Agent
    Funnily enough at the bus stop I seen a woman who spookily resembled Gemma Arterton, but was two or so decades older. :))
    'Alright guard, begin the unnecessarily slow moving dipping mechanism...'
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    A yummy mummy. :D
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  • CmdrAtticusCmdrAtticus United StatesPosts: 1,102MI6 Agent
    Back again to the reboot of the series - the producers were trying to bring the EON Bond back to the character in the novels. Throughout the books and mainly from OHMSS onward, there is a gloom about him and what he suffers though. Fans of the old series don't want this, they just want to have fun.

    I don't dislike the last three as some do for this point, I've been waiting for the real novel Bond to be shown in the films for a long time, even though he stumbles and sometimes fails. The thing I enjoyed about SF was, as morose and gloomy as they made it, the whole point was no matter what, you just can't kill the man and not only that, when he comes back, you better get out of his way. It's like watching the old seasoned boxer being out punched by a younger, faster opponent. The young boxer scores points on punches landed, but the vet wins by knocking him out in the end because he's been there - done that, can take the hits and finds the right moment to take him down.
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