The 'We got Fiennes so we have to use him'-syndrome

DutchJamesBondFanDutchJamesBondFan the NetherlandsPosts: 414MI6 Agent
After the 'We got Dench so we have to use her'-syndrome, because in QoS and in CR she's everywere where she must not be, it's seems like this will happen again.

He also teased that Gareth Mallory might not be stuck behind a desk in the film.
http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/Bond_24

Maybe it's me, but I thought, they went to the old MI6 building, that they wouldn't screw up M again, like they did with Dench, I mean, the head of MI6 has other things to do then go to 007 to ask if he killed him and then ask to come back, like in QoS, and this is not the only scene, there are a lot of place's were she shouldn't be. In Skyfall and TWINE is OK, because that's the story, but in CR and QoS it's so stupid.

Does Fiennes means that he'll also be on places where he shouldn't be?
I really hoping that they go back to the old formula, flirt Penny, have respect for the old man and then listen to Q. What do you think, will they screw it up again?
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    The films do seem to be more a group effort these days rather than Bond
    sent off on his own. Although I don't think Fiennes " M" will be as involved
    as Dame Judi's, somehow I think he will of course have a few key scenes.
    But now Moneypenny will have to have her screen time too, so I'm sure they
    Will still have the " spelling out the plot " stuff. :D
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  • Colonel ShatnerColonel Shatner Chavtastic Bristol, BritainPosts: 574MI6 Agent
    I hope he's revealed to be a high ranking infiltrator of Quantum. :))
    'Alright guard, begin the unnecessarily slow moving dipping mechanism...'
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    If they put him in the field, it will be minimal and hardly worth the effort.
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,353MI6 Agent
    Eon was dragging M and Q out into the field a lot earlier than some folks are remembering!
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,906Chief of Staff
    Eon was dragging M and Q out into the field a lot earlier than some folks are remembering!

    Indeed. . .remember M's private submarine; his secret HQ in Egypt; his appearances in Venice, Berlin, Gibraltar, Key West, etc.?
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I'd like to see a story with Bond doing the field work, while M and the gang are back in
    London, out smarting the Villain using red tape, computer firewalls etc, M having a
    Meeting with some top government official. Subtlety treating or piling on the pressure.
    Forcing the villain to change his plans, making a few mistakes, helping Bond from a
    Distance. -{
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  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,817MI6 Agent
    I think Director Lewis Gilbert said on the audio commentary of both TSWLM and MKR, that it wad to prevent having to drag Bond back to London all the time.
    Funny thing is, CR-06 QoS and Skyfall prove Bond could be alone in the field with minimal communication to M & Q, due to the technology. It seems Penny may have taken the original Q gag of following Bond abroad due to Q2's flying phobia!
    I agree less is more with the character of M, (TWINE excepted) but Mr Finnes has proved in previous films he can do brilliant stuff with minimal screen time. I think the producers know that too. - My potential worry is the writing!
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  • DutchJamesBondFanDutchJamesBondFan the NetherlandsPosts: 414MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:
    Eon was dragging M and Q out into the field a lot earlier than some folks are remembering!

    Indeed. . .remember M's private submarine; his secret HQ in Egypt; his appearances in Venice, Berlin, Gibraltar, Key West, etc.?

    Yes, but in the last films in a bit too much, in the older one's he's getting is asigment, while in QoS she's almost everywere, in Siena, the hotel and on the end in Russia. Why don't bring White to the office, like they did with Silva, MI6 could have send someone or call when Fields died. And in Russia? Fly to Russia, ask him if the guy is still alive, then ask to come to MI6, and leave? You go to Russia for three seconds. perhaps exaggerating a bit, but it really annoys me.
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,762Chief of Staff
    Why don't bring White to the office, like they did with Silva,

    Veering slightly off topic...but...Bond was being chased by White's men and needed to get him to a safe-house as quickly as possible...they were shooting the place up and certainly wouldn't have baulked at shooting up an airport - and Mi6 couldn't allow that...so the best option was to get him to a safe-house so he could be interrogated quickly...but that didn't quite go to plan 8-) :D
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  • Mr MalloryMr Mallory North by northwestPosts: 632MI6 Agent
    Well I hope to see alot more of Mr Mallory. :))
    What makes you think this is my first time?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    He is ex SAS so could help Bond in the field if the occasion arose. :))
    He'd of been a bit more useful around Skyfall lodge. ;)
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  • James007SweeneyJames007Sweeney Posts: 54MI6 Agent
    Hi Guys, I totally get what you are saying. I believe in From Russia with Love Connery begins telling a female about how he and M got drunk in Hong Kong while suppose to be on duty and having some fun with the ladies. If I remember correctly the conversation is being played back in M's office to which Bernarnd Lee's M quickly switches off the speaker before the ministers in his office hear the full sotry. It's an indication that at one time Bond and M did take part in missions together. I do not want to see Mallory with a gun. I think it is time for a solo mission.
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  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:
    Eon was dragging M and Q out into the field a lot earlier than some folks are remembering!

    Indeed. . .remember M's private submarine; his secret HQ in Egypt; his appearances in Venice, Berlin, Gibraltar, Key West, etc.?

    But that's the point ... They were 'appearances'.

    Apart from Q having a last hurrah in LTK , M and Q we're never part of the action as such. What made it even more ridiculous with Dench was having a 70+ year old woman carrying on like she was still a field agent. At least Mallory would be more believable.
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