Simple really, Connery is Bond, everything else is just a different copy and will never compete, but with the new interpretations of Bond brings new fans on board and they all learn in the end Connery will always be Bond -{
Simple really, Connery is Bond, everything else is just a different copy and will never compete, but with the new interpretations of Bond brings new fans on board and they all learn in the end Connery will always be Bond -{
Simple really, Connery is Bond, everything else is just a different copy and will never compete, but with the new interpretations of Bond brings new fans on board and they all learn in the end Connery will always be Bond -{
Connery was looking MUCH better in NSNA than Moore was in OP so Im fine with that
And DAF was a rare luxury for me as a kid they didn't show it locally and I watched it in weymouth when visiting my Uncle in prison
Thunderbird 2East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,817MI6 Agent
edited May 2014
Bendytoys - there is always one who has to have a bigger screen! Mind you, you are in good company, look at Captain Picard!
My love of the Bond films has not changed, but how and why I love them has evolved I suppose.
Sir Rog was the Bond I grew up with, and I simply saw the action and destruction as a kid. Now I share his naughty sense of humour and unabashed pun dropping.
Mr Dalton's is the Fleming Bond to me. I think its because I love TLD, and the PTS is so close to the short story in film terms. It was also the first of the films where I was old enough to pick up on the adult nuances and still appreciate the slap bang wallop of the Aston and the Hercules. These days I still love those things, but can also appreciate the geography a lot more. I'd like to visit Stonor House at some point.
George Lazenby was the "I'm not struck" Bond. As a kid the idea of this destructive hero falling in love, getting married?! Of course now I can't watch OHMSS without getting a bit blubbery at the end. Its a great performance, and reflects Mr Fleming's ability to shock in the books. Dame Diana Rigg is exceptional as Tracy, and the tragedy of her story is peppered though all her scenes. Plus Louie Armstrong. A legendary performer and what a song.
Mr Brosnan's films except for Goldeneye were the ones I saw at the cinema first, and I was never disappointed by the scale and spectacle. - Maybe that's why I love the TWINE boat chase so much, it had impact at the Edinburgh Odeon, so even now on the telly its my 50 inch Moonraker moment. Ok, even to my eyes that looks wrong! He was wrong to say recently he was not a good Bond. On the cinema screen he is damned good, equal to his colleagues, previous and his successor.
Now I know this will raise some eyebrows. 1986. From Russia With Love is on the box. A man appears, he meets Kiram Bey. "Whos that?" Eight year old me asks. "That's James Bond, Sean Connery played him before Roger Moore." replies my Mum. I squint at the screen. - "Hes not very good is he?!"
Now of course, I say Sir Sean is as great as all the others in the role. That's why I still say through he was not the best because he was first. Because to me Sir Roger was first. The only actor who was a terrible Bond was Peter Sellers.
Mr Craig is different form the others, and to me, will be the Best Bond, because he is my age group. The here and now Bond. Not to mention he gives the character a savage brutality, which is shocking as well as entertaining. - A hark back to Sir Sean's style but even colder. CR-06, QoS and Skyfall all have "Jam Spilt"moments. - A point where Bond savagely kills one of the baddies in a primal way, its quite disturbing. Esp in Skyfall where its an energetic afterthought! It shows the horror of what he is paid to do, and is a contrast to the high life of cars women and drink. A double sided character that is not clean and clinical.
I will admit my attitude to DAD and QoS has changed, the first film because I understand it is a Connery / Moore hybrid in style and scope. QoS will always be a bug bear because of the editing, but the quality of the film if you watch is using slow play is there. So these two I have changed my opinion on. I think the fact you can see just how damned hard the people making these films work through the finished product says a lot about them too.
DJ-Off you fall asleep at the screenings?! )
This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
Sometimes it's tough to be a Bond fan ) . It took me years and
Having to go back and read the books to appreciate QOS, but I
didn't give up I watched it over and over........... and over ) )
I now think it's pretty good, better than some. {[]
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Good thread topic TP. Interestingly, I find myself to be very opposite of you. Moore and Dalton use to be my two least favorite Bonds, now they are both in my top 3. For me, I think it the fun spectacle, along with the time period of the films that make those films so replayable for me. I thought nothing of films like TLD and OP, but now I quite enjoy them.
Perhaps it is because I was a Brozzerchild, the explosion and the uptick in effects drew me in and when seeing the older films I was less enticed. As time goes on, I find the stunts and action of the earlier films much more impressive than the CGI aided Brosnan films. When I was 10, I would find the GE plane stunt much more fascinating than the Moonraker skydive. Complete opposite now to the point of giddiness when Jaws appears.
Always enjoyed the Connery era so nothing has changed there, though I greatly appreciate the spectacle of the era much more now.
Back in HS and College when I thought I knew everything, I watched the films with an eye on the artistic elements. Now I just watch for pure enjoyment and happiness.
superadoRegent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
I think that there are definitely different tastes driving the fandom of the Bond movies now, compared to the “Golden Age.” Connery was the very 1st Bond I saw, albeit on TV and transitioning onto Roger Moore when I began watching Bond at the theater didn’t create that large of a bump. For a time, these were the only 2 Bonds to me (I largely ignored who and what OHMSS/Lazenby was) and sure, Moore and Connery were markedly different, but there was a continuity. The world of Bond was an elegant one, made to sound nice by its music, with coolness, gadgets and cars as exotic as the locations, with all of this revolving around a well-dressed, debonair and handsome guy who knew exactly how to do anything not only effectively, but with style and panache.
Nowadays, I confess I immensely enjoy DC’s Bond, but with all its grittiness, I just wish they’d drop the pretense of the sharp wardrobe and exotic settings, which all seem superficial. As for the recent Bonds, I’ve always loved Dalton’s as a breather from the series and a return to the books that he utterly nailed. I loved Brosnan’s Bonds because though not as gritty as Dalton’s (and Craig’s for the matter), it was restoring the world of Bond I mentioned in the 1st paragraph.
So, what are the tastes today? I fear it’s gangster chic and you see more of it on the streets with how swarthy looking guys are dressing better, yes, driving exotic cars, yes, but displaying in their behavior, being nothing but punks with cash flow…so forgive my rant, but I think that’s the appeal of today’s Bond. Thinking back to when I was a young Bond fan, I don’t think the punks I went to school with liked Bond as much as me, though I wouldn’t be surprised if they like Bond now.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
Now I find it a bit long, with Bond never in any real peril.
yeah right! Moonraker revolves around putting Bond in perilous situations. How is 007 going to get out of THIS one!?
being pushed out of an airplane, being stuck in a centrifuge, being trapped in the shuttle exhaust bay, being dumped in the python pool, stuck on the cable car, heading towards a giant waterfall, etc
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
It's hard to say…my early tastes in Bond films were heavily influenced by Connery fans so I mainly just watched the first 4 Bond films over and over. I've come to enjoy most all Bond films and appreciate the different takes each actor has brought to the role. My current favorites are Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan eras.
This week I watched Moonraker and License to Kill and must say LTK is very good, but MR is definitely the superior film.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
My taste in Bond films changes pretty much with the films themselves... Or at least after a short lag, perhaps. I now enjoy DC's tough portrayal of Bond, and find it harder to watch some of the earlier Bonds*, though at the time of Casino Royale's release, I loved the lighter, Brosnan portrayal.
* though I can watch the Connery films ad infinitum - some things never change. -{
I also think that editing and pace contribute to general changes in taste, and now I'm used to the faster pace of modern Bond films, some of the older ones seem a bit too slow...
Although Not Liking Bond works Both ways, The Times I've come home to
the sound of Blubbing, from Wife and daughters watching some crappy
" Who will look after my children when I die of some terrible incurable illness
while trying to escape an opresive military regime, and divorce my brutal mind
controlling Husband, who has sworn to Attak America before kidnapping my
children to sell for medical experiments, 2 "
Hey TP! I love that movie )
My taste in Bond films constantly changes and I could never produce a definitive list of favourites.
A lot seems to depend on my mood.
I love RM's movies, especially MR just because he was my Bond growing up and I love TD's movies just because they have TD in them ;%
The one that has surprised me recently is a growing fondness for PB's films. I've started to appreciate them a lot more these days, even DAD which I couldn't stand at one stage.
I think that's why I love Bond. It's an ever evolving thing and there is always a film to suit my mood.
( apart from QoS which I still haven't watched more than once )
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No contest, really.
You could only compare or rate the actors who followed.
Couldn't have said it better, my friend! -{
{[]
....particularly in DAF and NSNA ? :v
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Connery was looking MUCH better in NSNA than Moore was in OP so Im fine with that
And DAF was a rare luxury for me as a kid they didn't show it locally and I watched it in weymouth when visiting my Uncle in prison
My love of the Bond films has not changed, but how and why I love them has evolved I suppose.
Sir Rog was the Bond I grew up with, and I simply saw the action and destruction as a kid. Now I share his naughty sense of humour and unabashed pun dropping.
Mr Dalton's is the Fleming Bond to me. I think its because I love TLD, and the PTS is so close to the short story in film terms. It was also the first of the films where I was old enough to pick up on the adult nuances and still appreciate the slap bang wallop of the Aston and the Hercules. These days I still love those things, but can also appreciate the geography a lot more. I'd like to visit Stonor House at some point.
George Lazenby was the "I'm not struck" Bond. As a kid the idea of this destructive hero falling in love, getting married?! Of course now I can't watch OHMSS without getting a bit blubbery at the end. Its a great performance, and reflects Mr Fleming's ability to shock in the books. Dame Diana Rigg is exceptional as Tracy, and the tragedy of her story is peppered though all her scenes. Plus Louie Armstrong. A legendary performer and what a song.
Mr Brosnan's films except for Goldeneye were the ones I saw at the cinema first, and I was never disappointed by the scale and spectacle. - Maybe that's why I love the TWINE boat chase so much, it had impact at the Edinburgh Odeon, so even now on the telly its my 50 inch Moonraker moment. Ok, even to my eyes that looks wrong!
Now I know this will raise some eyebrows. 1986. From Russia With Love is on the box. A man appears, he meets Kiram Bey. "Whos that?" Eight year old me asks. "That's James Bond, Sean Connery played him before Roger Moore." replies my Mum. I squint at the screen. - "Hes not very good is he?!"
Now of course, I say Sir Sean is as great as all the others in the role. That's why I still say through he was not the best because he was first. Because to me Sir Roger was first. The only actor who was a terrible Bond was Peter Sellers.
Mr Craig is different form the others, and to me, will be the Best Bond, because he is my age group. The here and now Bond. Not to mention he gives the character a savage brutality, which is shocking as well as entertaining. - A hark back to Sir Sean's style but even colder. CR-06, QoS and Skyfall all have "Jam Spilt"moments. - A point where Bond savagely kills one of the baddies in a primal way, its quite disturbing. Esp in Skyfall where its an energetic afterthought! It shows the horror of what he is paid to do, and is a contrast to the high life of cars women and drink. A double sided character that is not clean and clinical.
I will admit my attitude to DAD and QoS has changed, the first film because I understand it is a Connery / Moore hybrid in style and scope. QoS will always be a bug bear because of the editing, but the quality of the film if you watch is using slow play is there. So these two I have changed my opinion on. I think the fact you can see just how damned hard the people making these films work through the finished product says a lot about them too.
DJ-Off you fall asleep at the screenings?!
Having to go back and read the books to appreciate QOS, but I
didn't give up I watched it over and over........... and over
I now think it's pretty good, better than some. {[]
Perhaps it is because I was a Brozzerchild, the explosion and the uptick in effects drew me in and when seeing the older films I was less enticed. As time goes on, I find the stunts and action of the earlier films much more impressive than the CGI aided Brosnan films. When I was 10, I would find the GE plane stunt much more fascinating than the Moonraker skydive. Complete opposite now to the point of giddiness when Jaws appears.
Always enjoyed the Connery era so nothing has changed there, though I greatly appreciate the spectacle of the era much more now.
Back in HS and College when I thought I knew everything, I watched the films with an eye on the artistic elements. Now I just watch for pure enjoyment and happiness.
" Now I just watch for pure enjoyment and happiness. " {[]
No better reason.
Especially in DAF and NSNA!
Nowadays, I confess I immensely enjoy DC’s Bond, but with all its grittiness, I just wish they’d drop the pretense of the sharp wardrobe and exotic settings, which all seem superficial. As for the recent Bonds, I’ve always loved Dalton’s as a breather from the series and a return to the books that he utterly nailed. I loved Brosnan’s Bonds because though not as gritty as Dalton’s (and Craig’s for the matter), it was restoring the world of Bond I mentioned in the 1st paragraph.
So, what are the tastes today? I fear it’s gangster chic and you see more of it on the streets with how swarthy looking guys are dressing better, yes, driving exotic cars, yes, but displaying in their behavior, being nothing but punks with cash flow…so forgive my rant, but I think that’s the appeal of today’s Bond. Thinking back to when I was a young Bond fan, I don’t think the punks I went to school with liked Bond as much as me, though I wouldn’t be surprised if they like Bond now.
yeah right! Moonraker revolves around putting Bond in perilous situations. How is 007 going to get out of THIS one!?
being pushed out of an airplane, being stuck in a centrifuge, being trapped in the shuttle exhaust bay, being dumped in the python pool, stuck on the cable car, heading towards a giant waterfall, etc
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
This week I watched Moonraker and License to Kill and must say LTK is very good, but MR is definitely the superior film.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
There is no sense of danger. ( if that makes sense )
" I don't listen to hip hop!"
And it was science Fact, not science fiction.
" I don't listen to hip hop!"
I thought we were trading film tag lines.
( well everything for a 70s Bond )
an unbelievable amount of G. Really he should have
been a "pancake " getting out of it.
* though I can watch the Connery films ad infinitum - some things never change. -{
I also think that editing and pace contribute to general changes in taste, and now I'm used to the faster pace of modern Bond films, some of the older ones seem a bit too slow...
Ditto! -{
Hey TP! I love that movie
My taste in Bond films constantly changes and I could never produce a definitive list of favourites.
A lot seems to depend on my mood.
I love RM's movies, especially MR just because he was my Bond growing up and I love TD's movies just because they have TD in them ;%
The one that has surprised me recently is a growing fondness for PB's films. I've started to appreciate them a lot more these days, even DAD which I couldn't stand at one stage.
I think that's why I love Bond. It's an ever evolving thing and there is always a film to suit my mood.
( apart from QoS which I still haven't watched more than once )
Wrong with Lazenby's acting. -{ it's my favourite Movie and Book. {[]