John Cleese: Bond humourless to please Asian Market

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John Cleese has been interviewed about the Craig Bond movies and seems to claim they're more serious because foreign countries don't understand British humour and because they want to see action sequences.

Seems a bit cynical to me.
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I agree that Cleese's comments seem to reflect his cynicism more than anything else. I understand that many Bond fans would like a little more humor in the modern Bond films, and I don't have a problem with that as long as they stay away from the Moore-era type humor. And for that matter, I hope they don't return to the humor displayed by Cleese in his two appearances in the Brosnan films. I, for one, don't miss those shenanigans and I think they would be sorely out of place in the Craig films.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    +1, as I've posted before I thought they got the balance of the humour about right with Skyfall. I wouldn't
    like to se more creeping in, just the odd one line to put a smile on your face. :D
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  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia, PAPosts: 754MI6 Agent
    It is interesting to see how the box office in China has gone from $11.7m for Casino Royale to $59.2m for Skyfall. On a whole, the Asian market was responsible for over $100m of the $1.1b box office. Likely the highest % of any Bond film (possibly YOLT?).

    Is that attributed to the more serious tone? I don't think you can really make that correlation. The box office was big for all 3 Craig films because they are great films both in Bond and movies in general. Though QoS was weaker in most eyes, the turnout was still big off the CR high.

    It wouldn't make sense for EON to pander to 10% of the market. They are trying to put the best and most relevant product out there like they always have. Certain eras have called for more or less humor. We are currently in an era where the general viewer desires a more serious approach
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Cleese was one of the worst castings in recent Bond history - he was terrible and I hold him fully responsible for the invisible car :))
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  • KabraxalKabraxal Posts: 104MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    +1, as I've posted before I thought they got the balance of the humour about right with Skyfall. I wouldn't
    like to se more creeping in, just the odd one line to put a smile on your face. :D

    I thought the humour in Skyfall was way to cynical to really balance out with the already cynical drama that it was though. I think the prior two Craig films did a better job of finding that balance.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Just my opinion but I didn't think there was much humour in Craig's
    First two outings.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    I disagree with Cleese on this
    Though I find him a remarkably smart and funny person, he seems to be a bit bitter after his divorce.

    Imo the lack of humor has more to do with the "closer to Fleming" "different than the others" we start again from scratch" approach of the reboot.

    I am pretty sure that at the first place, the producers try to make good movies and are not trying to please certain audience groups.

    Of course they can't ignore the market and I admit that in the Moore age, they where much more mainstrem in an entertaining way which was crucial back then.

    Hoiwever I disagree about welshie's opinion. I found him a brilliant cast in the Brosnan age - though it may not work in the Craig period.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Agree Cleese is a bit bitter, and is turning into a grumpy old git. :))
    My wife watched him on the Alan Carr show and said he was acting
    Very oddly. :))
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,757Chief of Staff
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    Just my opinion but I didn't think there was much humour in Craig's
    First two outings.

    Normally opinions can't be wrong - but, bizarrely enough - yours is :o

    :D
    YNWA 97
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I do agree most of my opinions are Bizarre ! :)) But wrong, Never. :p
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,757Chief of Staff
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    I do agree most of my opinions are Bizarre ! :)) But wrong, Never. :p

    Didn't someone once say "never say never".... :D
    YNWA 97
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    ah, but he Never meant it. ;) we all knew he'd be back some day. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,757Chief of Staff
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    ah, but he Never meant it. ;) we all knew he'd be back some day. :D

    You mean SM is due back ? :))
    YNWA 97
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    I thought Cleese was too over the top even for the Brosnan era! He some what just annoyed me, maybe also the fact it was an end of an era for Q made it worse

    I think DC humour is certainly there - anymore or too in your face would not work with this Bond. Maybe the next Bond huh
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Once again for me at least, Skyfall had a good couple of "One-liners" and as I suggested before
    Craig's humour is Darker and should be a little cruel, More like the early Connery movies. {[]
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,868Chief of Staff
    Sir Miles wrote:
    You mean SM is due back ? :))

    :)) Certainly SM thinks SM is due back!
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    Once again for me at least, Skyfall had a good couple of "One-liners" and as I suggested before
    Craig's humour is Darker and should be a little cruel, More like the early Connery movies. {[]
    Don't want any less, Don't want any More, This was Just right. Now I'l off to Brush my Long
    Golden locks and try out these three Beds I've found. :))

    Yeah I remember in the cinema really enjoying the Casino Royale scene:

    Bartender: Shaken or Stirred
    DC: Do I look like I give a damn.

    I thought that was a great line and clever little "wipe the slate clean" kinda thing for Bond which stated he was different then the rest.

    Still think he needs to up his game on the bird front though :))
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Craig has had some great lines, and maybe because they are ( In my opinion ) so infrequent
    Maybe they stand out more ? as for the Birds , Yes Bond should be IN Frequently ! :))
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,757Chief of Staff
    Barbel wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    You mean SM is due back ? :))

    :)) Certainly SM thinks SM is due back!

    Indeed ! Although I prefer S&M myself :o :))
    YNWA 97
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:

    Indeed ! Although I prefer S&M myself :o :))

    And I thought being an unpaid mod on AJB would be painful enough :D
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,868Chief of Staff
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    You mean SM is due back ? :))

    :)) Certainly SM thinks SM is due back!

    Indeed ! Although I prefer S&M myself :o :))

    Ah, that explains what I found in the mods' locker room then...
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,868Chief of Staff
    Bondtoys wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:

    Indeed ! Although I prefer S&M myself :o :))

    And I thought being an unpaid mod on AJB would be painful enough :D

    Only when dealing with certain people.... :))
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,757Chief of Staff
    Barbel wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Barbel wrote:

    :)) Certainly SM thinks SM is due back!

    Indeed ! Although I prefer S&M myself :o :))

    Ah, that explains what I found in the mods' locker room then...

    Indeed....now, when you've washed it can I have it back, please ? ;%
    YNWA 97
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,757Chief of Staff
    Barbel wrote:
    Bondtoys wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:

    Indeed ! Although I prefer S&M myself :o :))

    And I thought being an unpaid mod on AJB would be painful enough :D

    Only when dealing with certain people.... :))

    Superfluous use of the word 'certain' there !

    :o
    YNWA 97
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    In the immortal words of Seth MacFarlane in A Million Ways to Die in the West, this thread "went south so fast!" :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :))
    " Boys with Toys " :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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