Has Technology forced Bond to be 'Bourne' again-?

chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
edited July 2014 in General James Bond Chat
IMO, LTK was the last classic James Bond film.
With GE he had to be dragged into a new post-Cold War era, but the old elements were still there, in large part.
In TND he was brought up to speed with global communications. On his own at times, but why was he not wearing a com device?
TWINE was an attempt to tell an old fashioned Bond tale with the new tech blended in, but it just felt retro for the sake of it.
DAD a was full-on 21st Century embrace with OTT elements that thrashed the original formula of Bond as an agent inserted into a situation undercover.
Craig's films have been heavily influenced by Bourne & the new technology inherent in today's spy biz.
No longer is he the agent on his own in a hostile environment (without stretching it a bit), but an operative connected (most times) to a base of operations.

Has our James Bond of old ceased to exist?
Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS

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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I think the "earpiece" scenes are simply a way of getting the " office faces"
    Into the story. Although it doesn't bother me, I'm guessing it's part of
    Modern "spy craft" ( anyone in the know to put us straight on this ? ) .
    It's like the use of spy satellites, as the art of spying has changed so
    Has Bond, to remain a contemporary character and not become an
    Historic Anachronism.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    It's more of a 'With the Times' Focus.
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    IMO, smartphones immensely changed action movies.
    In the beginning, the heroes used their phones to solve hairy situations - with todays possibilities, screenwriters more and more have to explain danger of the present situation by the first question: What is the reason why the hero does not simply pull out a smartphone and gets the necessary info/calls for help?
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    The scene in FRWL where back in London M, Moneypenny and some military types are
    sitting around listening to a taped interview from Bond. Would be filmed today as the
    same group listening in "Live" transmission via smartphone. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    DC's Bond relies much less on gadgets than he used to, in many respects. Bond had gadgets supplied by Q in LTK and even as far back as FRWL. It's only when Bond is 'going native' in the villain's lair that he has to avoid obvious communications devices - and the miniature radio in Skyfall (virtually an homage to Marge in Connery's heel in Goldfinger) is the least technical device you could imagine. :#

    Besides, if the tech is available, why not use it? Isn't Bond supposed to be set "5 minutes in the future" too? -{
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    DC's Bond relies much less on gadgets than he used to, in many respects. Bond had gadgets supplied by Q in LTK and even as far back as FRWL. It's only when Bond is 'going native' in the villain's lair that he has to avoid obvious communications devices - and the miniature radio in Skyfall (virtually an homage to Marge in Connery's heel in Goldfinger) is the least technical device you could imagine. :#

    Besides, if the tech is available, why not use it? Isn't Bond supposed to be set "5 minutes in the future" too? -{

    +1
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    I don't think the technology is the issue. Spy TV shows and movies in the 60s routinely showed them with gadgets that included "communicators" of some sort that were more or less like cell phones today. If anything, the Bond films adopted the Bourne signatures for fist fights, dark "the man alone" characterizations, and a blond, buff anti-hero personality as the lead character. The reboot of Bond wouldn't have happened, in my opinion, had Batman Begins and the Bourne series not already introduced these sorts of elements.
  • CmdrAtticusCmdrAtticus United StatesPosts: 1,102MI6 Agent
    I personally hated Bond "on the line" with M through the whole SF opening.
    It took all the mystery out of what he was doing. I've imagined the whole sequence up until he leaps to the train without his earpiece. Though you won't understand he's trying to get the hard drive, it's obvious that one of the reasons he's after Patrice is because of the shootout in the hotel. They could have just had Moneypenny call M after Bond got on the train and told her what had happened and then the whole issue with the hard drive and what they were doing could have been said.

    I realize Bond operates in our current age of spy satellites and mobile communications...I just don't believe a 00 on such a mission would be doing a walkie talkie with HQs while in pursuit of someone or snooping aroung somewhere. He's a spy, not a SWAT unit.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I think it will only be a matter of time before Bond gets some
    Q branch " Google Glasses" which will project an 3D image of M
    On to Bond's eye ( and so into the room he's in, in another country ) :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    And Spider-man gloves like in MI:4... :s
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    So long as Bond keeps his Spider-man PJs :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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