Continuation of themes from "SkyFall"

Jacko1967Jacko1967 Posts: 10MI6 Agent
in SPECTRE - Bond 24 (2015)
Hi all. I don't post here very often. (If at all) But I wanted to run this up the flagpole...
I read somewhere that the next movie would continue to explore some of the themes from SkyFall. I'm starting to think they will address the deaths of Bond's parents, Andrew and Monique, who, as most of us know, were killed in a climbing accident in Switzerland when Bond was just a boy. As scouting has begun in the Austrian Alps, this seems like a plausibility. I hope they do not re-write Fleming's canon and make the death's of Mr. and Mrs. Bond anything more nefarious than what was written, but that is the sense I get. Anyone agree?

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  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    Jacko1967 wrote:
    Hi all. I don't post here very often. (If at all) But I wanted to run this up the flagpole...
    I read somewhere that the next movie would continue to explore some of the themes from SkyFall. I'm starting to think they will address the deaths of Bond's parents, Andrew and Monique, who, as most of us know, were killed in a climbing accident in Switzerland when Bond was just a boy. As scouting has begun in the Austrian Alps, this seems like a plausibility. I hope they do not re-write Fleming's canon and make the death's of Mr. and Mrs. Bond anything more nefarious than what was written, but that is the sense I get. Anyone agree?


    Yeah, I've always thought that would be a likely place for the franchise to go after Skyfall. In 24 Bond finds out who was responsible for his parents' deaths and in 25 he wreaks his revenge.

    Others on this board have made it clear they don't want they Bond franchise going in that direction, but having introduced the issue of Bond's parents' deaths in SF it would seem the logical direction.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,333MI6 Agent
    In my opinion that would be the wrong direction to go. Skyfall was a very good Bond film, but there is no need to dwel more on his past. Nnow we need a film that focuses on the mission and the villan. I think the themes that will continue is old versus new, not Bond's childhood traumas.
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:
    Jacko1967 wrote:
    Hi all. I don't post here very often. (If at all) But I wanted to run this up the flagpole...
    I read somewhere that the next movie would continue to explore some of the themes from SkyFall. I'm starting to think they will address the deaths of Bond's parents, Andrew and Monique, who, as most of us know, were killed in a climbing accident in Switzerland when Bond was just a boy. As scouting has begun in the Austrian Alps, this seems like a plausibility. I hope they do not re-write Fleming's canon and make the death's of Mr. and Mrs. Bond anything more nefarious than what was written, but that is the sense I get. Anyone agree?


    Yeah, I've always thought that would be a likely place for the franchise to go after Skyfall. In 24 Bond finds out who was responsible for his parents' deaths and in 25 he wreaks his revenge.

    Others on this board have made it clear they don't want they Bond franchise going in that direction, but having introduced the issue of Bond's parents' deaths in SF it would seem the logical direction.

    Oh dear, have you been reading Carte Blanche?! :o
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    In my opinion that would be the wrong direction to go. Skyfall was a very good Bond film, but there is no need to dwel more on his past. Nnow we need a film that focuses on the mission and the villan. I think the themes that will continue is old versus new, not Bond's childhood traumas.

    Now this is more appealing to my palate. :) -{
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I hope they don't do that murdered parents story line. Almost as if Young Bond
    Was destined to become an agent , like a spy version of Harry Potter ! :#
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Smithers500Smithers500 Spectre IslandPosts: 1,347MI6 Agent
    Silhouette Man wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    In my opinion that would be the wrong direction to go. Skyfall was a very good Bond film, but there is no need to dwel more on his past. Nnow we need a film that focuses on the mission and the villan. I think the themes that will continue is old versus new, not Bond's childhood traumas.

    Now this is more appealing to my palate. :) -{

    Agree completely,much like your handle, Bond should be a silhouette with very little background information(perhaps the odd tantalising mention now and again). Skyfall had a bit too much of Bond's supposed history for my liking, so anything more in the next film would be wrong.
    Japanese proverb say, "Bird never make nest in bare tree".
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I too think we've learnt enough about Bond's past , let's push
    Ahead with his future. -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Jacko1967Jacko1967 Posts: 10MI6 Agent
    Yes, I agree completely. A nod here or there (as when Roger visited Tracy's grave during the PTS of "For Your Eyes Only") is all fine and good. But I am not interested in seeing the movies change Bond's history in any way not intended by Ian Fleming.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    I'm guessing it will more mumbo jumbo about whether or not the spy business is about cyber tactics or field agents anymore, or whatever, rather than about Bond's history.
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Gardner first brought up the Idea of the changing Face of the Secret Service in License Renewed -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    I hope they don't do that murdered parents story line. Almost as if Young Bond
    Was destined to become an agent , like a spy version of Harry Potter ! :#


    Doesn't it depend how the story's done? Done well, it could be interesting. Done poorly . . . well.

    Bond's childhood seems to be a running theme through the Craig films. Vesper sussed out that he was an orphan early on and M was always going on about how orphans make the best spies because nobody cares if they live or die, or something like that. And then we got Skyfall.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    In my opinion that would be the wrong direction to go. Skyfall was a very good Bond film, but there is no need to dwel more on his past. Nnow we need a film that focuses on the mission and the villan. I think the themes that will continue is old versus new, not Bond's childhood traumas.

    I agree.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • PDJamesBondPDJamesBond Posts: 180MI6 Agent
    Call me old-fashioned or even clichéd, but I’d love to have at least one Daniel Craig film that follows the classic Bond formula of maniacal villain, frightening henchman, big plot to destroy the world (or something along those lines), a villain’s lair, the big climax where the lair is destroyed, etc. Just once, let’s have no “this time it’s personal!” stuff and just have a straightforward mission with lots of great stunts, action, beautiful women and locations, gadgets – all of it.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    You're old fashioned. :p
    In my opinion, gradually bit by bit they are slowly building up the formula. {[]
    It may not be 100% Classic, but perhaps we're at the start of a whole new
    Formula. -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • MrZarebaMrZareba Krakow, PolandPosts: 1,775MI6 Agent
    The reason they've changed the formula is the fact that it wore off - die hard fans will of course enjoy the older entries, but let's be honest - "Die Another Day" wasn't exactly the peak of cinematic evolution (yet it followed the James Bond formula - a villain who wants to destroy the world with a fancy weapon, a girl with benefits for a while, a hell lot of gadgets etc etc). Critics and the audiences have spoken and the producers took another way - as it turned out a pretty decent one. Daniel Craig himself told in one of the interviews however that they will slowly go back into the classic Bond, but they have to show the reason for it and I'm perfectly ok with it.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    {[] exactly, if you don't evolve,you stand still, and things that
    Stand still .......... Tend to get eaten. ;) :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • PDJamesBondPDJamesBond Posts: 180MI6 Agent
    I agree that it shouldn't be formula for the sake of formula. God knows we don't ever want another DAD (I shudder at the thought). But just one old-school DC film might be nice - if done properly, of course.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    There are times I feel, yes a great megalomaniac hell bent on taking over the world
    Would be cool. {[] Then as you point out they did that with DAD, and in fact it was
    A little boring in places. :# So I'll put my trust in the Film makers and Producers
    That they know what they're doing. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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