You have more military experience then I do, Stag. But perhaps it would be an idea to tone down your confrontational style, be a bit modest and entertain the idea that others might have a point? I don't know for a fact that the RM officers in question really thought of exposing the marines under their command to the sound of gunfire for psycological reasons, I just read it in a book or two and heard it in a TV documentary. I might remember it wrong or the reports may be wrong. Do you know for a fact that I'm wrong? Perhaps you have seen an interview or read a book by the RM Commanders in the Falklands war or even talked to one of the officers in question. If not, I don't see the need display that attitude.
The story about the squaddie bayoneting the Iragi during GW1. That sounds like a classic one for the 'groupies' - I'll not explain that term - though I wasn't there I know a few lads who were & it comes as news to me that British ground forces closed with the enemy to the degree that they would have engaged in hand to hand fighting - though let's be clear that I'm not saying that, because I haven't heard about it, it didn't happen but let me point out that the only time you would use a bayonet is as a last resort, for example when you were fighting through a position & run out of ammo. A soldier will always shoot - regardless of range - that's why they are issued with 'guns'. An SA80 is a bullpup, a short 'gun' no longer than an arm you have to get really close with one of those things, even closer than with an L1. Yes the bayonet has been used in Afghanistan.
Bayonets were definitely used in an at least one instance in GW2 - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8016685.stm - in Al Amara during which Sgt Brian Wood of A Company, 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wales Royal Regiment, was awarded the Military Cross.
Just one note on the SA80, in a nutshell is was ****, the re-engineered L85A2 is a lot better for performance.
However, the whole concept of a bullpup is to make the weapon as short as possible (to allow ease of access to building for house clearance etc) but to retain a full length barrel to maintain accuracy.
The L85A2's biggest downfall is it's lack of ergonomics for left handed people.
I've had many people suggest a bullpup would in theory be more accurate than a long gun, the M1A1 for instance but I'll not bore (pun) you with the technicalities.
I think this question has arose before, as my learned friend Higgins ,has pointed out ,it is indeed an air pistol ,
Story goes,if I remember, is the guy who ran the props dept ,left the real one behind,and this was the only one they had,
but no doubt,im bound to be shot down in flames as usual
The photographer who took the shot just happened to have an LP53 in his car boot so that was used after the proper gun didn't turn up.
Or at least that's what geffs 2bit commodore plus 4 style memory has in the data banks.
Both AS and MG are correct - I think the gun was used to shoot rats from what I can remember! ) -{
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Sold at auction many times over. Michael Wisher had it most recently (bought for around 1/4 mill if I remember) and when he died it was auctioned again but didn't fetch anywhere near the same amount.
On top of asking the reason for shooting a gun gangsta style, found this
Informative video. ( on top of all those on AJB, who said it was a silly way
to shoot ) ) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BiaW6nM6oBg
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I grew up with guns, I grew up hunting and I spent 30 years in our military. Truthfully, you don't need super special training to be proficient with a firearm. Some good basic instruction and practice, practice, practice. I generally shoot 200 rounds a month out of my pistols, maybe 50 or so out of my rifles and frankly, I'm way behind some of my friends. The great thing about a gun is that it doesn't take a lot to teach someone, say a peasant, to take care of the weapon and wield it responsibly.
I'm a good rifle shot, but I've been on the range with our scout/snipers and they are unbelievable.
I've had occasion to pull my personal carry gun twice, luckily the sight of the pistol caused the bad people to run. I did have to point my M16 at a man one time in the line of duty. He didn't speak English, but he spoke 5.56NATO. Again, I didn't have to shoot and I'm glad of that.
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Never handled or fired one., so can't tell you about them. The .32 round is fine for close up work. It served well during two World Wars and there were no complaints from the miriad of people that used it in anger or defence then and since. Shot placement is key.
A good hip holster is quickest, especially back then when shoulder holsters were mostly vericle. The Ruby has a large grip, so with concealment in mind an inside waistband holster without retaining strap would be best, followed by a belt holster and then shoulder.
Could you suggest a compact yet powerful (.45 cal?) semi automatic pistol - not the 1911 - which could be concealed about the person & the type of 'quick draw' holster to allow it to be carried unseen? Both the weapon & the holster would need to have been in production or available in the United States during or before WW2. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the reply. The liberator is unsuitable, I was looking at a compact semi auto in a large calibre (doesn't have to be .45) just so long as it would perform well against man sized targets. I may have to go the revolver route with a short barreled .38 S&W?
BTW I'm not planning on shooting anyone, I'm doing some preliminary research for a new story of mine.
There wasn't a compact semi auto .45 back then. The closest you'll get to what you want would be a revolver.
I suppose the trade off is between firepower and conceal- ability ,is the smaller the weapon ie easier too hide and reduction of muzzle velocity ,but apart from the classics like the PPK ,the Walther P38 , (as used by the man from UNCLE) ,wasn't a bad pistol ,
By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
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Two of the most prevalent pistols used for concealed carry during the time - the Colt 1903 & 1908 semi auto's. They served people well during both WW's and beyond and there was never an issue with stopping power. Too much talk about that is given these days mostly due to police officers having to confront juiced up crims who are too high to notice they are shot. Shot placement is more important and arguably was the most effective stopper before bad guys started taking crystal meth.
Shot placement is more important and arguably was the most effective stopper.....
True, last time I had some serious instruction in the use of handgun we were taught to shoot for the pelvic girdle, you blow that to smithereens it'll stop you!
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I did not even know that Roger Moore had his own army
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Their uniform is a safari suit an they salute with their eyebrows.
Of Roger Moores can be deployed !
Bayonets were definitely used in an at least one instance in GW2 - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8016685.stm - in Al Amara during which Sgt Brian Wood of A Company, 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wales Royal Regiment, was awarded the Military Cross.
However, the whole concept of a bullpup is to make the weapon as short as possible (to allow ease of access to building for house clearance etc) but to retain a full length barrel to maintain accuracy.
The L85A2's biggest downfall is it's lack of ergonomics for left handed people.
I've had many people suggest a bullpup would in theory be more accurate than a long gun, the M1A1 for instance but I'll not bore (pun) you with the technicalities.
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Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I did. That's why I said GW2.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I think this question has arose before, as my learned friend Higgins ,has pointed out ,it is indeed an air pistol ,
Story goes,if I remember, is the guy who ran the props dept ,left the real one behind,and this was the only one they had,
but no doubt,im bound to be shot down in flames as usual
Or at least that's what geffs 2bit commodore plus 4 style memory has in the data banks.
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Both AS and MG are correct - I think the gun was used to shoot rats from what I can remember!
In a nutshell, yes. It's in very good hands.
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I'm not, I want it!
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Informative video. ( on top of all those on AJB, who said it was a silly way
to shoot )
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BiaW6nM6oBg
I'm a good rifle shot, but I've been on the range with our scout/snipers and they are unbelievable.
I've had occasion to pull my personal carry gun twice, luckily the sight of the pistol caused the bad people to run. I did have to point my M16 at a man one time in the line of duty. He didn't speak English, but he spoke 5.56NATO. Again, I didn't have to shoot and I'm glad of that.
God didn't make men equal, Mr. Colt did.-Unknown
'Just because nobody complains doesn't mean all parachutes are perfect.'- Benny Hill (1924-1992)
A good hip holster is quickest, especially back then when shoulder holsters were mostly vericle. The Ruby has a large grip, so with concealment in mind an inside waistband holster without retaining strap would be best, followed by a belt holster and then shoulder.
Easy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FP-45_Liberator
Or you could go for a classic "Belly Gun" in .45 cal/long colt
-Mr Arlington Beech
There wasn't a compact semi auto .45 back then. The closest you'll get to what you want would be a revolver.
True, last time I had some serious instruction in the use of handgun we were taught to shoot for the pelvic girdle, you blow that to smithereens it'll stop you!
-Mr Arlington Beech