What if Brosnan started in TLD?

DevilMayCare007DevilMayCare007 Posts: 196MI6 Agent
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What if he did? Would the movies be better or worse?
I just want to hear your opinions on it
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  • LegoBatman008LegoBatman008 USAPosts: 189MI6 Agent
    DevilMayCare007 wrote:
    What if he did? Would the movies be better or worse?
    I just want to hear your opinions on it

    If Pierce Brosnan had started with The Living Daylights, I think he could have said the one-liners better than Timothy Dalton did. But I don't know if Pierce would've waited six years after Licence to Kill, to do GoldenEye.
    "Ahem, you know in the future if you're going to steal cars, don't dress like a car thief, man." - Spider-Man
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    The Legal Problems would of still happened, regardless of Actor.
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Since Dalton is a highlight of TLD...I doesn't bear thinking about.
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Take someone from an alternate reality where Brosnan started in TLD, show them our version with Dalton, then watch 'em cry....
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I've spoken to you before about stiring up
    Trouble in other realities ! :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Yes sir... ;%
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
    Had not the Remington Steel producers pull that stunt they did, PB would have fit i to TLD like a glove, like a miraculously rejuvenated Moore, baby faced and dapper. There may have been no LTK, since that was tailored for TD and I predict the films after TLD would have progressed with a similar feel as the existing PB movies. They would have been more successful and regarding the comment that the legal stalemate that stalled production for 6 years was inevitable regardless, I believe that there could have been a butterfly effect and the successes of the films from an earlier entry of PB might have shifted the factors causing the lawsuit, perhaps averting it altogether. Would the tiredness of the series have nonetheless happened? Maybe, but it's hard to tell what other factors and at which time would have determined what course EON might have taken in terms if tweaks or a full-blown reboot. What I do know is that the period beginning in 1987 into the 90s was ripe for the high-testosterone action flicks that Bond would have dominated in place of the films of that genre that flourished.
    "...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Take someone from an alternate reality where Brosnan started in TLD, show them our version with Dalton, then watch 'em cry....
    As things are like they are - we are forced to watch HIM cry 8-)
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    You might get misty Eyed again :))
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    I think TLD would have been pretty much as it is now. I always felt Pierce wanted a grittier, darker Bond, and in TLD and LTK he would have been great. He would have felt confortable doing those movies.

    However, when he finally got the role, he was asked to be the fantasy Bond, with some laughs thrown in, and jumping the shark too many times.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Virgil37 wrote:
    I think TLD would have been pretty much as it is now.
    I don't know if Brosnan could pop a balloon quite as intensely as Dalton... ;)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) you've been hanging out with Higgins too much ! :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • InternationalExportsInternationalExports Posts: 269MI6 Agent
    He would have killed the Franchise 20 years earlier than he ended up doing :)) :)) :)) Mwahahaha!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I hate to see how you'd react to a Bond actor you didn't like, if this
    Is the sort of post about someone, you said you did like. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • InternationalExportsInternationalExports Posts: 269MI6 Agent
    Hey TP I am only having a bit of fun with those who get reidulously upset over any critique of Brosnan's tenure. Even when Pierce himself was not happy with the films. I don't hate the man, he did the best he could. But I do switch off when his films are on they dont hold attention, some of the plots are overly rediculous. But I think I said before he has a poor supporting cast in his movies and poor lines to work with to much of the old Moore Puns.
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Virgil37 wrote:
    I think TLD would have been pretty much as it is now.
    I don't know if Brosnan could pop a balloon quite as intensely as Dalton... ;)

    You're right, Dalton's balloon popper abilities were second to none.
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    InternationalExports wrote:
    Pierce himself was not happy with the films

    Nobody seems to take this into account. Maybe one of us in ajb007 who doesn't like Brosnan's films is Brosnan himself.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Maybe he doesn't rate them very highly because he had very little to work
    With. Some really weak scripts, some terrible CGI ;)
    Don't worry International Exports, I knew by the smillies you may not have
    Been totally serious. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • InternationalExportsInternationalExports Posts: 269MI6 Agent
    Hell no, My cousi a modeln launched the new Jag with him a few years back she said he was incredibly humble and chatty. You are right he did not have a lot to work with he was of his time, his Bond was was made for fans of action over all else.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I remember "The Secret Agent" posting he was once on holiday in California
    And was in a Queue behind Brosnan, who on seeing TSA had very little in his
    Basket, let him jump ahead of him. :D I stood behind many people in queues
    Who wouldn't let you go ahead if you were having a heart attack ! :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    I was hoping that Brosnan would have become Bond, and I suspect The Living Daylights, with a little more humor, would have been a solid vehicle for him. It was the last Bond film made mostly by the old guard. It is, to me, Dalton's best turn as Bond, but I actually think he would have been better in a film like Goldeneye.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    broadshoulder wrote:
    Since Dalton is a highlight of TLD...I doesn't bear thinking about.

    I agree, although the upside would have been that the "Tim Dalton Misty-Eyed Fan Club" would never have existed. Or would that be the downside? Curse that Higgins! He has me all confused! :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,341MI6 Agent
    "They would have been more successful"

    The scripts would be the same......it's like saying the 70s films would've been more serious with GL as 007 , which I doubt.
  • GrazmeisterGrazmeister Posts: 34MI6 Agent
    Am I alone in thinking Brosnan looked too skinny and lightweight around the time he was mooted to take over from Moore? I think he was just about right come Goldeneye. Strangely I wasn't a fan of Dalton when I saw TLD at the cinema but he grew on me with reviewing. LTK went the other way..loved it on first viewing but not a big fan now. Maybe I'm just a nutter :))
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Grazmeister wrote:
    Am I alone in thinking Brosnan looked too skinny and lightweight around the time he was mooted to take over from Moore?
    No. -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • GrazmeisterGrazmeister Posts: 34MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Grazmeister wrote:
    Am I alone in thinking Brosnan looked too skinny and lightweight around the time he was mooted to take over from Moore?
    No. -{

    good. :D
  • MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
    Timothy Dalton makes TLD for me. But if Brosnan had been in it, LTK wouldn't have been made, and PB might have quit before DAD ;)
    1.LTK 2.AVTAK 3.OP 4.FYEO 5.TND 6.LALD 7.GE 8.GF 9.TSWLM 10.SPECTRE 11.SF 12.MR 13.YOLT 14.TLD 15.CR (06) 16.TMWTGG 17.TB 18.FRWL 19.TWINE 20.OHMSS 21.DAF 22.DAD 23.QoS 24.NSNA 25.DN 26.CR (67)
  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    Grazmeister wrote:
    Am I alone in thinking Brosnan looked too skinny and lightweight around the time he was mooted to take over from Moore? I think he was just about right come Goldeneye. Strangely I wasn't a fan of Dalton when I saw TLD at the cinema but he grew on me with reviewing. LTK went the other way..loved it on first viewing but not a big fan now. Maybe I'm just a nutter :))

    I think he was too skinny in Remmington Steele. Also in GE he was too lightweight.

    However, the ultimate movie to check him out in 1986 is "The Fourth Protocol", shot around the same time as TLD. He has a very bondian role (although in the soviet side). He must have gained some weight for that one (or for TLD) because he looks terrific, like a 1964 Connery with lots of hair. :D
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Virgil37 wrote:
    in GE he was too lightweight.
    Brosnan would have made a good CR Bond around the time he did GE- he looked so boyish still. He'd have been a great rookie OO at that point. After GE he beefed up a little & finally looked like an adult. :D
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,877Chief of Staff
    He's said the same thing himself, in much the same words.
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