The blofeld riddle solved....

ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,063MI6 Agent
Well firstly excited that the new bond movie is off and running, with a cool title and great cast.
The most important question remains will we see the return of Blofeld, the head of Spectre, and will he be played by Waltz.

To further muddy the waters, Eon have released the name of Waltz's character, as Oberhauser. Could this just be a cover and he will be unveiled as Blofeld?

Well the obvious line of thought relates to the Fleming Bond, and carries on from the life-line plot of Skyfall. While at Fettes school bond became close to his ski instructor, Hannes Oberhauser, until one day he mysteriously disappeared. Therefore some think Waltz character is the instructors son. But with Oberhauser loosely translated as "upper house" or perhaps "lord or ruler of the house" his alias would appear perfect for the head of SPECTRE, Blofeld.

Too obvious....

Instead, I think I've tracked down the true root of the name Oberhauser and it is fascinating for what it might mean for the plot.

Oberhauser also means "from Oberhausen" which is a small city in Nrth Rhine Westphailia. 
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberhausen
Its historical significance ranges from it's links to Napoloeon, and as a key industrial base of the Nazis during the war, home of the Ruhrchemie AG synthetic fuels plant owned by IG Farben. It was a key target of the allied bombers in the oil bombing campaign, and was thought to be the spiritual home of many of the leading Nazis like Hess and Himler. In more peaceful times, it's probably best known for it's sea life centre, which became world famous during the 2006 soccer World Cup because of the exploits of one of it's creatures.
And this is where the clearest hint comes; 
The insignia of SPECTRE is the OCTOPUS....
And the remarkable creature in Oberhausen Sea life centre that captured the imagination of the whole world, due to it's ability to predict the results of yet to be played soccer games during the world cup, was Paul The Octopus....

So there we have the plot of Spectre. The organisation has continued the scientific experiments conducted by the Nazis during the war, including the program to exploit the telepathic and predictive capacities of the brain. They found that the most fertile brain for this purpose was actually that of the octupus, which is know to have 4 cranial chambers, one of which is thought to have no purpose at all, and is found to be the area of the brain that can be employed to predict the future. Human brains also have this 4th cranial chamber, but it's much smaller and has minimal capacity, although some humans have been able to exploit this capacity and act as clarvoyants etc.
SPECTRE have been using this technique for decades to predict the result of sports matches and win bets. 
So there we have it - it's a cross between a view to a kill and casino royale, but with Nazis thrown in, hence the choice of the best actor to play a Nazi in 30yrs, Christopher Waltz.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Octopus
I do hope I havn't spoiled it for anyone....

Comments

  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    I could be wrong, but isn't the airfield in Where Eagles Dare also named Oberhauser?
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    Close, it's called Oberhausen (I have relatives of that name, which is why I remembered).
    I wonder if this thread should have a "spoiler" tag? The idea is crazy enough to be possible!
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Hey, thanks for clearing that up. Yes, this is quite a theory.
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Maybe Oberhause could reveal his true Identity as Blofeld right before the Credits start?
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    I see that kewee has invested and consumed heavily on eggnog :)) :)) :))

    To spoil his crazy idea - Oberhausen is virtually in the center of Germany - which is said to be the hidden governmental power of the EU, so it's safe to say that Blofeld will try to nuke pollute large parts of the EURO currency :v
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  • MrZarebaMrZareba Krakow, PolandPosts: 1,775MI6 Agent
    Spot on analisis, I don't even have to go to see the movie now!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    Blofeld will try to nuke pollute large parts of the EURO currency :v

    It's an inspired deal!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I hope eon's lawyers don't come after you for this brilliant bit of detective work ! :))
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  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    MrZareba wrote:
    Spot on analisis, I don't even have to go to see the movie now!

    I wasn't planning on anyway. I don't like movies that use the color black in their teaser posters.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    just wanted to add, that kewees theory has one little flaw:

    People from Oberhausen call themselves and are called OberausENer
    Now, whatya gonna do out of this? :D
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    just wanted to add, that kewees theory has one little flaw:

    People from Oberhausen call themselves and are called OberausENer
    Now, whatya gonna do out of this? :D

    Like most of your posts. Ignore it :D
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  • BunsenPPKBunsenPPK Sydney, AustraliaPosts: 77MI6 Agent
    -POSSIBLE SPOILERS-

    Well, well, well. I have in my hot little hands the James Bond Encyclopedia (New Edition including Skyfall) and does it have some beans to spill. As I reach the 14th page of this enlightening piece, a paragraph reminds me of this very thread. This section is in regards to Bonds roots and upbringing... And it's juicy.

    The following is more or less a shortened version of what's in the book.

    In his youth, Bond travels to Austria where he befriends and finds a mentor in ski instructor Hannes Oberhausser, whom Bond describes as a "second father". In the short story Octopussy, Oberhausser is killed by none other than British officer Major Dexter Smythe, during the theft of a cache of Nazi gold after WW2. The body was dumped in a crevasse of a glacier, only to reappear later, leading Bond to be tasked with tracking down and confronting Major Smythe. This confrontation is referred to in the film Octopussy, Smythe being the father of Octopussy herself (IIRC Bond kills her father).

    Source: James Bond Encyclopedia by John Cork and Collin Stutz - 2014

    So there you are, the upcoming Bond film SPECTRE features a character by the name Franz Oberhausen... May only be a reference, or maybe a whole other plotline is now forming in your mind.
    :007)
    "I think he got the point"
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    BunsenPPK wrote:
    So there you are, the upcoming Bond film SPECTRE features a character by the name Franz Oberhausen... May only be a reference, or maybe a whole other plotline is now forming in your mind.
    :007)

    Im not sure what you are aiming at but Franz is Hannes son...
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  • BunsenPPKBunsenPPK Sydney, AustraliaPosts: 77MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    BunsenPPK wrote:
    So there you are, the upcoming Bond film SPECTRE features a character by the name Franz Oberhausen... May only be a reference, or maybe a whole other plotline is now forming in your mind.
    :007)

    Im not sure what you are aiming at but Franz is Hannes son...


    Easy then.... I did not know that :)
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    For a bit of fun, read Octopussy by Fleming, It's a wonderful story, and a nice line from
    Bond, about him being a Father when he needed one. -{
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  • QuistQuist Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    Could it be that Hannes Oberhausser's son Franz could be full of bitterness and wants revenge against Britain for the fact his father was killed by a British Army Major? This is possibly why he has joined SPECTRE. He still holds a high level of respect and emotional feeling for Bond as he spent a large period of time acting as an older brother to him. This makes it hard for Bond to kill him. This is obviously my pure guess work on the character and plot.
  • armenianmoviemanarmenianmovieman The 818Posts: 694MI6 Agent
    http://screenrant.com/james-bond-rachel-weisz-ross-51160/

    This is old but also possible in some form? It could be Bellucci or Seydoux, perhaps....

    Maybe they thought they'd do Skyfall as a one-off and then returned to the idea, in this form...

    Mr. White's villa was in Italy.... perhaps he took an Italian lover (Bellucci) who will continue with the name?!?!

    Crazy rambling. Long story short: they could pull an Iron Man 3.
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  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    http://screenrant.com/james-bond-rachel-weisz-ross-51160/

    This is old but also possible in some form? It could be Bellucci or Seydoux, perhaps....

    Maybe they thought they'd do Skyfall as a one-off and then returned to the idea, in this form...

    Mr. White's villa was in Italy.... perhaps he took an Italian lover (Bellucci) who will continue with the name?!?!

    Crazy rambling. Long story short: they could pull an Iron Man 3.

    Anything is possible. There could even be a surprise cast member who shows up that is being kept under very tight wraps, a big reveal at the end? Christoph Waltz has cannilly insisted he's not Blofeld and that people are in for a surprise. I do think that Rachel Weisz would be great as Tracey if they were re-making OHMSS...not just because she is DC's wife, but because she can really act and would be very convincing as that character.
  • SpoffSpoff Posts: 244MI6 Agent
    2010 World Cup bro'
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    If Seydoux turns out to be Blofeld, then it would be very similar to For Special Services by John Gardner -{
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 3,336MI6 Agent
    If Seydoux turns out to be Blofeld, then it would be very similar to For Special Services by John Gardner -{

    Hopefully they'll find a more realistic skull cap than in FYEO.. :D
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  • MadoliteMadolite Posts: 6MI6 Agent
    Only problem with this theory is that Oberhauser and Oberhausen are fairly common names, referring to "upper houses". So it doesn't have to mean anything at all. But it's still interesting, considering how "the upper houses" could refer to either Spectre or MI6.
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    edited February 2015
    Obenhauser rhymes with trouser
    Trouser means pants
    People wear pants
    Blofeld is a person
    Blofeld wears pants
    Obenhauser is in Spectre
    Blofeld is in SPECTRE
    Spectre has 7 letters
    SPECTRE has 7 letters
    Blofeld also has 7 letters
    Roger Moore made 7 Bond films
    Moore was 57 when he quit making Bond films
    57 contains the number 7
    57 also contains the number 5
    5 + 7 = 13
    Octopussy was the 13rd Bond film
    It also happened to feature Roger Moore
    Who supposedly killed not-Blofeld.
    Not-Blofeld is not Blofeld
    To kill not-Blofeld is to not kill Blofeld
    Blofeld is alive
    The word alive has 5 letters
    Texas also has 5 letters
    George W. Bush was the Governor of Texas
    Bush
    Bush's baked beans
    Baked beans rhymes with jeans
    Jeans are pants
    Blofeld is alive
    Pants are not alive
    Obenhauser is not alive
    But Obenhauser is in Spectre
    How could Obenhausers be in Spectre if he isn't alive?
    Exactly. You guessed it.
    Obenhauser is actually Blofeld.
    Obenhauser is in Spectre
    in Spectre rhymes with Inspector
    Inspector Gadget is an Inspector
    James Bond uses a gadget
    Gadget has 6 letters
    James Bond is two words
    6 + 2 = 8
    There are 8 letters in the word Seinfeld
    Seinfeld rhymes with Blofeld

    Blofeld is in Spectre = confirmed.
  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 538MI6 Agent
    lol, that kind of logic only works on the tv show lost
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