Pros and Cons: The Living Daylights

Loeffelholz · October 2015

He wasn't Moore - I love this film :007)

ToTheRight · October 2015

I always liked the way he said "Salt corrosion". As well as "I've had a few optional extras installed".

Bondage007 · October 2015

Hmm, still not convinced. but it doesn't matter, all things considered, TLD is my fav Bond film

heartbroken_mr_drax · October 2015

Matt S wrote:

Here's the clip: https://youtu.be/KMqP7v0uSFU?t=39s

You can see how good Alec Mills' cinematography is almost instantly in this. The shot of the Aston coming over the viaduct, quality stuff!

If anything, "It's amazing this modern safety glass" is more contentious than "Salt corrosion!"

chrisisall · October 2015

heartbroken_mr_drax wrote:

Matt S wrote:

Here's the clip: https://youtu.be/KMqP7v0uSFU?t=39s

You can see how good Alec Mills' cinematography is almost instantly in this. The shot of the Aston coming over the viaduct, quality stuff!

As much as I love LTK, TLD just looks & feels SO BOND!! B-)

Bondage007 · October 2015

chrisisall wrote:

As much as I love LTK, TLD just looks & feels SO BOND!! B-)

Precisely. -{

Has all the elements, a bit by the numbers, but a nice plot (the Pushkin part) and unique and numerous stunts which is a theme throughout the entire Glen era.

HatThrowingHenchman · October 2015

TLD for me is like a Moore Bond without Roger

(in a positive way)

Agent Purple · November 2015

"I've had a few optional extras installed."

am747 · November 2015

Agent Purple wrote:

"I've had a few optional extras installed."

"Salt corrosion"

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chrisisall · November 2015

God I LOVE this movie! -{

Agent Purple · November 2015

chrisisall wrote:

God I LOVE this movie! -{

It's not hard to see why someone would love this movie.

Great debut performance from Dalton and great direction from Glen.

A hard 10/10 for me.

Matt S · November 2015

chrisisall wrote:

God I LOVE this movie! -{

Me too! This film really has it all, but just the right amount of every element.

Agent Purple · November 2015

What do you guys think of the A-Ha song?

Matt S · November 2015

Agent Purple wrote:

What do you guys think of the A-Ha song?

I think it's a great song, especially with what John Barry did with it.

Agent Purple · November 2015

I think it's cool that Necros gets a song to go along with his misdeeds.

A tough, brutal henchman, even if he's reminiscent of Red Grant.

chrisisall · November 2015

Agent Purple wrote:

What do you guys think of the A-Ha song?

I love it!

Loeffelholz · November 2015

chrisisall wrote:

Agent Purple wrote:

What do you guys think of the A-Ha song?

I love it!

As do I. The score is brilliant as well. This is just a great film...a bit silly in small bits, but overall a truly Bondian film experience :007)

Bondage007 · November 2015

I love how it has both theme songs (+If there was a man) in the score. My only complaint is that the score is a bit repetitive (or maybe I've listened to it too much) but it is a great score.

It's not completely a serious movie as it has lots of silly moments but I love the mix, which is why it is overall my fav film.

The cast is pretty weak (MP, Felix, villains except Necros, I'm starting to like Saunders) but the serious moments and action more than make up for it (PTS, safehouse scene, jail escape, ice chase, finale)

heartbroken_mr_drax · November 2015

Bondage007 wrote:

I'm starting to like Saunders

Me too. I used to find him an annoying brat who just got in the way but in more recent viewings I've felt more for his character - he's very important to the narrative.

Well acted too.

I don't understand the flak the Aha song gets, I think it's excellent.

Bondage007 · November 2015

heartbroken_mr_drax wrote:

Bondage007 wrote:

I'm starting to like Saunders

Me too. I used to find him an annoying brat who just got in the way but in more recent viewings I've felt more for his character - he's very important to the narrative.

Well acted too.

I don't understand the flak the Aha song gets, I think it's excellent.

He's still not memorable but I think the final scene with him and Bond is a good conclusion to their story arc...mutual disdain to mutual respect.

Agent Purple · November 2015

Unconventional opinion here, but I like Whitaker and Koskov. I like that they seem rather "friendly", particularly with Koskov, as it highlights his two-faced nature.

They are unusual villains for sure, but I think they suit the film just fine.

Matt S · November 2015

Agent Purple wrote:

Unconventional opinion here, but I like Whitaker and Koskov. I like that they seem rather "friendly", particularly with Koskov, as it highlights his two-faced nature.

They are unusual villains for sure, but I think they suit the film just fine.

I don't love Whitaker, but I think Koskov is fantastic.

Agent Purple · November 2015

Btw, am I alone in thinking that Craig and Dalton have little in common with regards to their Bond portayals?

It seems to be generally understood that Dalton's portrayal was a template for Craig's, but I just don't see that much of a resemblance.

Matt S · November 2015

Agent Purple wrote:

Btw, an I alone in thinking that Craig and Dalton have little in common with regards to their Bond portayals?

It seems to be generally understood that Dalton's portrayal was a template for Craig's, but I just don't see that much of a resemblance.

I agree with you.

chrisisall · November 2015

Agent Purple wrote:

Unconventional opinion here, but I like Whitaker and Koskov. I like that they seem rather "friendly", particularly with Koskov, as it highlights his two-faced nature.

They are unusual villains for sure, but I think they suit the film just fine.

I agree here.
I also love how that bonehead Whitaker gets his.

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Absolutely_Cart · November 2015

Agent Purple wrote:

Btw, am I alone in thinking that Craig and Dalton have little in common with regards to their Bond portayals?

It seems to be generally understood that Dalton's portrayal was a template for Craig's, but I just don't see that much of a resemblance.

This is a good point. What they have in common is a darker gritty more realistic portrayal of the character, but that does not mean Craig is a copy of Dalton. Aside from that, there's a lot of differences between them. Moore and Connery both have their character with a sense of humor, but that doesn't mean Moore is a copy of Connery.

chrisisall · November 2015

Absolutely_Cart wrote:

Agent Purple wrote:

Btw, am I alone in thinking that Craig and Dalton have little in common with regards to their Bond portrayals?

It seems to be generally understood that Dalton's portrayal was a template for Craig's, but I just don't see that much of a resemblance.

This is a good point. What they have in common is a darker gritty more realistic portrayal of the character, but that does not mean Craig is a copy of Dalton. Aside from that, there's a lot of differences between them. Moore and Connery both have their character with a sense of humor, but that doesn't mean Moore is a copy of Connery.

Exactly. They are each their own Bond.

Agent Purple · November 2015

chrisisall wrote:

Absolutely_Cart wrote:

Agent Purple wrote:

Btw, am I alone in thinking that Craig and Dalton have little in common with regards to their Bond portrayals?

It seems to be generally understood that Dalton's portrayal was a template for Craig's, but I just don't see that much of a resemblance.

This is a good point. What they have in common is a darker gritty more realistic portrayal of the character, but that does not mean Craig is a copy of Dalton. Aside from that, there's a lot of differences between them. Moore and Connery both have their character with a sense of humor, but that doesn't mean Moore is a copy of Connery.

Exactly. They are each their own Bond.

That's true.

A shame Caroline Bliss didn't manage to make much of an impact as Moneypenny.

They kept Maxwell for over 2 decades and Bliss got the short end of the stick.

And her most memorable moment is perhaps when she suggests to Bond to listen to her Barry Manilow collection.

chrisisall · November 2015

Agent Purple wrote:

And her most memorable moment is perhaps when she suggests to Bond to listen to her Barry Manilow collection.

It was her attempt at finding the stationary....

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am747 · November 2015

"dont worry they will save you for the harem"

Pros and Cons: The Living Daylights

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