The Bond Movie Discussion For Fans Of The Fleming Novels also thread

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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    I doubt many casual Film goers are even aware that Bond was a Novel Character to start with.
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I've heard of books. They're made from trees, right?
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Not any more you Luddite. ;) it's all electronic these days. :))
    They're printed on to things called um ! "kindles". :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Who is Ludd? I am a Daltonite!
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    "Don't get me wrong: Craig has done a magnificent job as Bond, and I think that the staircase scene in Casino Royale remains one of the best fight scenes in the Bond film franchise. I can easily picture Fleming's Bond in that same fight. Bond is brutal at close combat, but I think some of the stunts that EON has inserted into the modern Bond films is rather implausible and beyond anything that the Fleming Bond would've done."

    I agree. As with the large action scenes and stunts, it's why the films (or most films) veer off the original footprint. In order to draw in more audiences they had to stay stay current with the times and with more and more action films flooding the market with A list actors and almost Bond like plots at times, EON had to alter the original character's undercover spy to that of big screen action hero in order to compete.

    When watching the the Craig films repeatedly (even CR) it's very obvious where the cinematic scenes are inserted into Fleming's world. All the stunt set pieces (foot chase, airport chase, Venice battle) are just that - action stunt scenes added to the story in order to give visual thrills. At least they do make an attempt to justify them in the plot. Then there is Fleming's work..the casino scenes, Bond being poisoned (though I would have preferred the gun in the cane as in the novel), the torture and his recovering at the clinic, Vesper's betrayal, his interaction with Le Chiffre. It makes it very clear where his ideas are at and where the cinematic ideas are padded in around his.

    Given all that, I think the reboot has gotten closer to the beginning of the series and I hope EON continues this trend even after Craig's departure.

    {[]
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I think the reboot has gotten closer to the beginning of the series and I hope EON continues this trend even after Craig's departure.

    {[]
    Ha ha, just wait. Man From UNCLE will be a surprise hit & Bond 25 will end up quite the hilarious film indeed!
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Not any more you Luddite. ;) it's all electronic these days. :))
    They're printed on to things called um ! "kindles". :))

    Oldies these Days 8-) :))
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes, Old people just don't get tec. I have fourteen kindles with
    The Fleming Bonds and they're great, have them on the shelf
    And they do take up less space than the books. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Yes, Old people just don't get tec. I have fourteen kindles with
    The Fleming Bonds and they're great, have them on the shelf
    And they do take up less space than the books. :D
    :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • DEFIANT 74205DEFIANT 74205 Perth, AustraliaPosts: 1,881MI6 Agent
    I doubt many casual Film goers are even aware that Bond was a Novel Character to start with.

    ... which I think is a damn shame. They don't know what the real James Bond is meant to be like.
    "Watch the birdie, you bastard!"
  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,638MI6 Agent
    Yes, Old people just don't get tec. I have fourteen kindles with
    The Fleming Bonds and they're great, have them on the shelf
    And they do take up less space than the books. :D

    Hope you got something like this http://shop.bl.uk/mall/productpage.cfm/BritishLibrary/_ISBN_9786000026240/519344/Adventures-of-Sherlock-Holmes-eReader-case-%28medium%29 to put each kindle in.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I doubt many casual Film goers are even aware that Bond was a Novel Character to start with.

    ... which I think is a damn shame. They don't know what the real James Bond is meant to be like.
    If I were a teacher I'd have my class read Moonraker...
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Why specifically Moonraker?
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • CmdrAtticusCmdrAtticus United StatesPosts: 1,102MI6 Agent
    I have electronic readers and laptops but in my opinion, none of those compare to a book for ease of use, dependability, it's tactile feel in my hand and even the scent of the paper and ink. They may become less valuable to this generation and future ones, but they will always be a treasure in my house.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Why specifically Moonraker?
    It's a good story and can be compare to the movie to see how you completely fail to do a novel cinematic justice.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Yes, Old people just don't get tec. I have fourteen kindles with
    The Fleming Bonds and they're great, have them on the shelf
    And they do take up less space than the books. :D

    Oh, you have each novel on a Kindle. I though I needed one for each page! (I'm at page 57 of Casino Royale, and so far it's costing me a fortune!)
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) Yes Only young people like me can use tec the right way. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    :)) Yes Only young people like me can use tec the right way. :))

    Your're right, of course. I should have consulted with you first, kid! :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    :)) Yes Only young people like me can use tec the right way. :))
    I tried to read something on my Son's Kindle (he has all new stuff to read books on), so I picked it up & no print appeared. I asked it to display pages, but it's apparently not voice activated. I figured maybe the circuits or whatever were dirty, so I dipped it in a basin of soapy water and it started displaying pages like crazy for a second, then went dark. I'm embarrassed to ask my Son, so tell me hi-tek TP, how do I get it to work now?
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    They are great they can hold an entire book. Imagine
    when they can hold three or even four 8-)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Change of venue:

    LTK is not from a Fleming novel, although it employs some names from "The Hildebrand Rarity" , the infamous LALD shark attack on Leiter, & the note...but at its core it's basically a re-working of the Kurosawa film Yojimbo (yeah, it sounds like Wade addressing James) wherein a Ronin works both sides of a town full of corruption to bring it all down.
    Question: how Flemingesque or non-Flemingesque do you find this entry?
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I find it very Flemingesque. {[] a great bloody film ! -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    edited December 2014
    I actually find LTK to be one of THE most Flemingesque films, even more so than TLD despite the awesome opening sniper scene from the short story. I really feel LTK benefited greatly from a more 'restrained' budget, and gave it an early Connery feel.
    Less really is sometimes more. A Barry score would put this well above TLD for me, as it is I see them comparable Bonds overall.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    I find it very Flemingesque. {[] a great bloody film ! -{

    I still can't quite envision Dalton as Fleming's Bond. He's just too old, too tall, and too handsome.

    The only "It's Him!" moment I've experienced is when watching Craig in QoS.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    I still can't quite envision Dalton as Fleming's Bond. He's just too old, too tall, and too handsome.
    No offence to Sir Tim, but he's not too handsome. And he's no taller than Connery & shorter than Brosnan. And too old? He was playing Bond in his forties. :s
    The only "It's Him!" moment I've experienced is when watching Craig in QoS.
    This I can not argue.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Some of the old pan Bond books have Bond drawn on
    The cover and he looks a lot like Dalton. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
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    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
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