Pros and Cons: Goldeneye

Thunderpussy · December 2015

Once again we're bact to the old problem some have,
a one second insert shot, has totally ruined a two
hour film.

)
oh where, is Absolute_Cart.

HatThrowingHenchman · December 2015

Thunderpussy wrote:

Once again we're bact to the old problem some have,
a one second insert shot, has totally ruined a two
hour film. )

it just sounds too ridiculous too be true

)

broadshoulder · December 2015

Thunderpussy wrote:

Once again we're bact to the old problem some have,
a one second insert shot, has totally ruined a two
hour film. )
oh where, is Absolute_Cart.

We're having a laugh

Our tongue is very firmly in our cheek..

Thunderpussy · December 2015

) Now that is Naughty !

Agent Purple · December 2015

I wonder what's CHB's ranking of the Bonds is.

Here's my guess:

1) Connery
2) Craig
3) Dalton
4) Lazenby
5) Moore
6) Brosnan

Sir Miles · December 2015

am747 wrote:

Sir Miles wrote:

am747 wrote:

Refer to post #328 -{

I did....totally redundant post 8-)

So please enlighten me in words as to why you think that scene is crude -{

But if you don't get it through pics, how are you going to get it through words 8-)

Trying once more:

^ CRUDE

Well, try me with words and we shall see 8-)

Unless you are incapable of doing so ? It's quite a simple request really...

am747 · December 2015

Sir Miles wrote:

Well, try me with words and we shall see 8-)

Unless you are incapable of doing so ? It's quite a simple request really...

I tried you with a pic, it failed .... and that too when it was probably like a no smoking sign, imo

Btw, I have implied some of it in words on this thread too, if you know where to look

chrisisall · December 2015

BEHAVE YOURSELVES!!!

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Sir Miles · December 2015

am747 wrote:

Sir Miles wrote:

Well, try me with words and we shall see 8-)

Unless you are incapable of doing so ? It's quite a simple request really...

I tried you with a pic, it failed .... and that too when it was probably like a no smoking sign, imo

Btw, I have implied some of it in words on this thread too, if you know where to look

Oh I've looked...and you've failed -{

Theundeadkennedy · December 2015

Agent Purple wrote:

I wonder what's CHB's ranking of the Bonds is.

Here's my guess:

1) Connery
2) Craig
3) Dalton
4) Lazenby
5) Moore
6) Brosnan

This is the 2nd time I've seen you make assumptions about how another member would rank the bonds. I'm just wondering what you're hoping to accomplish by doing so. Do you feel you're pointing something specific out about what type of fan they are?

HatThrowingHenchman · December 2015

Theundeadkennedy wrote:

Agent Purple wrote:

I wonder what's CHB's ranking of the Bonds is.

Here's my guess:

1) Connery
2) Craig
3) Dalton
4) Lazenby
5) Moore
6) Brosnan

This is the 2nd time I've seen you make assumptions about how another member would rank the bonds. I'm just wondering what you're hoping to accomplish by doing so. Do you feel you're pointing something specific out about what type of fan they are?

so you're answering his post with assumptions, too?

)

Theundeadkennedy · December 2015

I was asking a direct question actually. 8-)

HatThrowingHenchman · December 2015

I can say that (based on the Pm's), all that it is, is that AP is genuinely interested in other people's opinions on the Bond films. A fact, that's refreshing to read about and good! so if I may say so, his intentions are strictly honorable (SC'swords though).

Thunderpussy · December 2015

" Hey there's no i in Justice League !"

). ( Big Bang Theory)

At this special time of year. I like to think we can take others dreams, opinions
assumptions and put them with our own. In a very special and beautiful kind
of way. In a Universal Bond of love, compassion and brotherhood. I believe new
Bond fans are the future treat them well and let them lead the way. Show them all
The beauty they possess inside.
Group hug anyone ?

Theundeadkennedy · December 2015

That's fair.

In the spirit of the season, group hugs for anyone and everyone {[]

am747 · December 2015

Sir Miles wrote:

am747 wrote:

Sir Miles wrote:

Well, try me with words and we shall see 8-)

Unless you are incapable of doing so ? It's quite a simple request really...

I tried you with a pic, it failed .... and that too when it was probably like a no smoking sign, imo

Btw, I have implied some of it in words on this thread too, if you know where to look

Oh I've looked...and you've failed -{

"Not from where I m standing"

Agent Purple · December 2015

HatThrowingHenchman wrote:

I can say that (based on the Pm's), all that it is, is that AP is genuinely interested in other people's opinions on the Bond films. A fact, that's refreshing to read about and good! so if I may say so, his intentions are strictly honorable (SC'swords though).

Yeah, HTH gets it. I find other people's Bond tastes interesting.

It does make for fun research.

chrisisall · December 2015

On topic, GE rocks mostly, and in no small part because it was done on the cheap (as Bond films go).

Jag · December 2015

chrisisall wrote:

On topic, GE rocks mostly, and in no small part because it was done on the cheap (as Bond films go).

Was it? I read it was the first 007 movie with computer special effects, not sure if they save you money or quite the opposite...

Loeffelholz · December 2015

I believe it was also the last one to use the late Derek Meddings' miniatures?...so a bit of the past along with the first of the future.

Matt S · December 2015

Loeffelholz wrote:

I believe it was also the last one to use the late Derek Meddings' miniatures?...so a bit of the past along with the first of the future.

Yes it was, and they looked fantastic.

Then the GoldenEye satellite was made with a computer, and that looked really awful. I forgot how bad it looked until a co-worker who watched it recently pointed it out to me since I hadn't watched GoldenEye in years. Today, that could easily be done well, but 20 years ago it was a struggle.

heartbroken_mr_drax · December 2015

One thing I like about Goldeneye is the blend of CGI and Derek Medding's model work.

But some of the CGI does look quite bad, like the trail from the missiles sent up from the chopper...

Agent Purple · December 2015

Well, it was the 90s. Back then, CGI wasn't used the same way it's used now.

broadshoulder · December 2015

Agent Purple wrote:

Well, it was the 90s. Back then, CGI wasn't used the same way it's used now.

Jurassic Park came out in 1993, Goldeneye came out in 1995

Mind you we were years away from the truly awful cgi ie the Tidal wave

Agent Purple · December 2015

Dang, I can't beat that Jurassic Park card.

You won that round broad.

broadshoulder · December 2015

Agent Purple wrote:

Dang, I can't beat that Jurassic Park card.

You won that round broad.

To be honest the effects in Goldeneye aren't too bad

CoolHandBond · December 2015

Wow! This is the first time such a response has been initiated from one of my reviews - GE obviously has passionate supporters and detractors. For the record, like AP, I enjoy reading other AJBer's points of view and those views are always respected by myself even if I don't happen to agree with them. I'm looking forward to the response to my TND review which I hope to watch later tonight. A very merry Christmas to all -{ -{ -{

am747 · December 2015

I would not criticize GE on the technical front as I would like to believe that it did the best it could in the allocated budget and resources at that time

I rank it at the bottom mainly for its crude elements and laborious watching experience - PTS starts off well and the title sequence is nice too. Post title sequence it opens up nicely with the AM-Ferrari chase, and then it starts going downhill:

* Onatopp - 'I like it straight up with a twist'
* That horrible scene b/w Onatopp and Admiral on the yatch
* Onatopp comical approach to the original pilots of Tiger
* Yawn inducing intro of Natalya and Boris
* Onatopp comically shoots everyone at that base in Russia
* Wade gives a peek of his bottom and Muffy
* Natalya messages Boris
* Unrefined singing at the club
* Crude fight sequence b/w Onatopp and Bond at the indoor pool
* Blah blah b/w Bond and Trevelyan
* Natalya shouts horribly in the Tiger helicopter to awaken Bond (mute button required)
* Yawn inducing dialog b/w Bond and Natalya inside the Russian base
* Blah blah in the train
* Wade takes the car away
* Bond and Natalya fly in the TMWTGG fashion to find the lair
* Lair hidden like in YOLT
* Onatopp's death

* ....
* And the worst ending sequence of the franchise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq_I7ys1R64

HatThrowingHenchman · December 2015

how would you have introduced Natalya and Boris then?

am747 · December 2015

HatThrowingHenchman wrote:

how would you have introduced Natalya and Boris then?

I would not have made a film with such characters

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