I have to admit though that it kind of pisses me off that Bond is being so tomfordish. In the books he was portrayed as a man who chooses the best of everything, so his taste in "Casino Royale" was much better - he was wearing one of the best sunglasses, decent t-shirts, one of the best cufflinks, very good suits (although I find Tom Ford's cuts better then Brioni's) etc etc - bottom line - everything was different. I remember the line from the book where it was described that Bond likes to play a lot while ordering food because as a single man there are not many things in his life which bring him joy (I guess sleeping everyday with another woman was also just routine by then) - so one can assume the same applies to the clothing he chooses. Going 90% Tom Ford is definitely not trying be a connoisseur - for me personally it's showing off one's bank account balance along with a desperate try to be hollywood-superstarish in the first place.
I don't own anything from TF though as for now so my opinion is worthless I guess!
I sort of agree with this, what I loved so much about the SF wardrobe was that he wore a plethora of mostly luxury British brands, the majority of which from shops located in London. It seemed way more in character then in QOS when he just walked into TF and cleaned them out.
Agree. It was great to see Bond wearing some classic British brands in Skyfall.
Though Bond in Topman? That was really disappointing. Even dead men have standards!
whats wrong with Topman? I love those pants and fit perfectly for him being down and out.
They're very far from the best, as MrZareba said Bond should wear. They didn't look so great on him either, which might have been the point. It looks like they shrank in the wash, which would probably happen to cheap trousers like those.
The Shiny Black model has gradient grey lenses. They don't appear gradient from the above pics. And both the regular Black model and Shiny Black have a duo-tone frame, but I only see a single color frame here. You would see the split color right down the middle of the "T" logos on the side of the frame. (see pic below)
Also, according to the TF site, all color styles have rose gold "T" Logos.
I have to admit though that it kind of pisses me off that Bond is being so tomfordish. In the books he was portrayed as a man who chooses the best of everything, so his taste in "Casino Royale" was much better - he was wearing one of the best sunglasses, decent t-shirts, one of the best cufflinks, very good suits (although I find Tom Ford's cuts better then Brioni's) etc etc - bottom line - everything was different. I remember the line from the book where it was described that Bond likes to play a lot while ordering food because as a single man there are not many things in his life which bring him joy (I guess sleeping everyday with another woman was also just routine by then) - so one can assume the same applies to the clothing he chooses. Going 90% Tom Ford is definitely not trying be a connoisseur - for me personally it's showing off one's bank account balance along with a desperate try to be hollywood-superstarish in the first place.
I don't own anything from TF though as for now so my opinion is worthless I guess!
Good point. Why did TF get chosen for QOS in the first place? Was it DC's preference?
That said, TF suits are very well made (to Zegna Couture standards).
I have to admit though that it kind of pisses me off that Bond is being so tomfordish. In the books he was portrayed as a man who chooses the best of everything, so his taste in "Casino Royale" was much better - he was wearing one of the best sunglasses, decent t-shirts, one of the best cufflinks, very good suits (although I find Tom Ford's cuts better then Brioni's) etc etc - bottom line - everything was different. I remember the line from the book where it was described that Bond likes to play a lot while ordering food because as a single man there are not many things in his life which bring him joy (I guess sleeping everyday with another woman was also just routine by then) - so one can assume the same applies to the clothing he chooses. Going 90% Tom Ford is definitely not trying be a connoisseur - for me personally it's showing off one's bank account balance along with a desperate try to be hollywood-superstarish in the first place.
I don't own anything from TF though as for now so my opinion is worthless I guess!
Good point. Why did TF get chosen for QOS in the first place? Was it DC's preference?
That said, TF suits are very well made (to Zegna Couture standards).
I have to admit though that it kind of pisses me off that Bond is being so tomfordish. In the books he was portrayed as a man who chooses the best of everything, so his taste in "Casino Royale" was much better - he was wearing one of the best sunglasses, decent t-shirts, one of the best cufflinks, very good suits (although I find Tom Ford's cuts better then Brioni's) etc etc - bottom line - everything was different. I remember the line from the book where it was described that Bond likes to play a lot while ordering food because as a single man there are not many things in his life which bring him joy (I guess sleeping everyday with another woman was also just routine by then) - so one can assume the same applies to the clothing he chooses. Going 90% Tom Ford is definitely not trying be a connoisseur - for me personally it's showing off one's bank account balance along with a desperate try to be hollywood-superstarish in the first place.
I don't own anything from TF though as for now so my opinion is worthless I guess!
I sort of agree with this, what I loved so much about the SF wardrobe was that he wore a plethora of mostly luxury British brands, the majority of which from shops located in London. It seemed way more in character then in QOS when he just walked into TF and cleaned them out.
"Skyfall" had a plethora of British brands? I have to disagree - sure, there was Barbour, C&J, All Saints, N.Peal - but mostly it was still Tom Ford, even the cufflinks were Tom Ford all the time. "Casino Royale" on the other hand was truly a British brands show off (among others) - Ted Baker, Turnbull & Asser, Albert Thurston, John Lobb, Sunspel - most of which were worn as different outfits so it felt like there was actually a variety of companies. In Skyfall the only outfit with luxurious British brands was the in the lodge scenes.
I think what he means is that the majority of outfits (minus the suits) were NOT Tom Ford. Yes the Lodge stuff had the most "British" brands, but a breakdown from Skyfall and we have the following:
- Billy Reid, Acne, C&J, Barbour, Levis Vintage Clothing, Zara, All Saints, N.Peal.
The majority of these brands is from the UK, or Europe; LVC is based in Europe even though Levi's is an American brand. The only non UK/Euro brand is Billy Reid.
For the suits they are all made by Tom Ford, but I believe Jany designed them and took them to Tom Ford for manufacturing.
I'm hoping its different brands for the non-suiting outfits similar to Skyfall. I don't want 85% Tom Ford pieces like we saw in QoS.
I think what he means is that the majority of outfits (minus the suits) were NOT Tom Ford. Yes the Lodge stuff had the most "British" brands, but a breakdown from Skyfall and we have the following:
- Billy Reid, Acne, C&J, Barbour, Levis Vintage Clothing, Zara, All Saints, N.Peal.
The majority of these brands is from the UK, or Europe; LVC is based in Europe even though Levi's is an American brand. The only non UK/Euro brand is Billy Reid.
For the suits they are all made by Tom Ford, but I believe Jany designed them and took them to Tom Ford for manufacturing.
I'm hoping its different brands for the non-suiting outfits similar to Skyfall. I don't want 85% Tom Ford pieces like we saw in QoS.
exactly this, im totally happy with TF handling the suiting and everything else being a load of other brands, that's how it should be I think.
Photo call from today in Rome. Wearing a double breasted suit. Looks like Crocket and Jones Tetbury suede chukkas in brown.
I like the style, though the fit could use some work! It's certainly not Bond style to wear brown suede shoes with a city suit, as well as a flashier pocket handkerchief, but the combination is stylish.
Hey guys,
I found the tie. It's also a cucinelli. Here's a pic:
Photo call from today in Rome. Wearing a double breasted suit. Looks like Crocket and Jones Tetbury suede chukkas in brown.
I like the style, though the fit could use some work! It's certainly not Bond style to wear brown suede shoes with a city suit, as well as a flashier pocket handkerchief, but the combination is stylish.
Hey guys,
I found the tie. It's also a cucinelli. Here's a pic:
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The more I see of the footage the more I hate it for the over fussiness. He looks like a dandy. Bond is simple and stylish. Not a modern day Beau Brummell.
The more I see of the footage the more I hate it for the over fussiness. He looks like a dandy. Bond is simple and stylish. Not a modern day Beau Brummell.
I had to google Beau Brummell.
Well, if anybody wants the tie, I can proxy. But like I said, it ain't cheap.
The more I see of the footage the more I hate it for the over fussiness. He looks like a dandy. Bond is simple and stylish. Not a modern day Beau Brummell.
I have to admit though that it kind of pisses me off that Bond is being so tomfordish. In the books he was portrayed as a man who chooses the best of everything, so his taste in "Casino Royale" was much better - he was wearing one of the best sunglasses, decent t-shirts, one of the best cufflinks, very good suits (although I find Tom Ford's cuts better then Brioni's) etc etc - bottom line - everything was different. I remember the line from the book where it was described that Bond likes to play a lot while ordering food because as a single man there are not many things in his life which bring him joy (I guess sleeping everyday with another woman was also just routine by then) - so one can assume the same applies to the clothing he chooses. Going 90% Tom Ford is definitely not trying be a connoisseur - for me personally it's showing off one's bank account balance along with a desperate try to be hollywood-superstarish in the first place.
I don't own anything from TF though as for now so my opinion is worthless I guess!
You can't be serious. Brioni was better than Tom Ford??? Not a chance. Casino Royale may have been a better movie but Bond was dressed the best in Quantum of Solace. I wasn't overly impressed with the casino royale suits at all. As for Skyfall - I liked the new digs outfit but agree with most that the cut was far too tight. It starts to look a lot worse with the pin stripe suit he wears later in the film. The casual wear has been spot on for Craig all the way to be fair though.
Photo call from today in Rome. Wearing a double breasted suit. Looks like Crocket and Jones Tetbury suede chukkas in brown.
I like the style, though the fit could use some work! It's certainly not Bond style to wear brown suede shoes with a city suit, as well as a flashier pocket handkerchief, but the combination is stylish.
Hey guys,
I found the tie. It's also a cucinelli. Here's a pic:
It's also very pricy. More so than TF ties.
Look at the photo below:
It sure looks like the tie's ribs are going the same direction of the stripes, which would mean this isn't the correct tie. Or perhaps the ribs are caused by some lighting effect and actually aren't there.
I really like the two striped grenadine ties to the right!
I have to admit though that it kind of pisses me off that Bond is being so tomfordish. In the books he was portrayed as a man who chooses the best of everything, so his taste in "Casino Royale" was much better - he was wearing one of the best sunglasses, decent t-shirts, one of the best cufflinks, very good suits (although I find Tom Ford's cuts better then Brioni's) etc etc - bottom line - everything was different. I remember the line from the book where it was described that Bond likes to play a lot while ordering food because as a single man there are not many things in his life which bring him joy (I guess sleeping everyday with another woman was also just routine by then) - so one can assume the same applies to the clothing he chooses. Going 90% Tom Ford is definitely not trying be a connoisseur - for me personally it's showing off one's bank account balance along with a desperate try to be hollywood-superstarish in the first place.
I don't own anything from TF though as for now so my opinion is worthless I guess!
You can't be serious. Brioni was better than Tom Ford??? Not a chance. Casino Royale may have been a better movie but Bond was dressed the best in Quantum of Solace. I wasn't overly impressed with the casino royale suits at all. As for Skyfall - I liked the new digs outfit but agree with most that the cut was far too tight. It starts to look a lot worse with the pin stripe suit he wears later in the film. The casual wear has been spot on for Craig all the way to be fair though.
I agree. The suiting (the cloth a suit is made from) in Casino Royale and Skyfall was more classic Bond than some of the mohair tonic suiting in Quantum of Solace, but the suits in Quantum were much better overall. Craig looked too stiff in Casino Royale and too constricted and miniscule in Skyfall. The cut of the new suit is similar to the Quantum suits, just a bit smaller. Again, there is nowhere for Bond to hide his firearm, or even a money clip!
Guys, I never stated that Brioni is better than Tom Ford, I even said that I prefer Tom Ford's cut over Brioni's and I said many, many times (also in this thread) that the QoS are my absolute favourites.
Please read my posts more carefully next time because this makes everyone else think that I'm an idiot - and English is my second language, which is not the case with you both I believe.
Guys, I never stated that Brioni is better than Tom Ford, I even said that I prefer Tom Ford's cut over Brioni's and I said many, many times (also in this thread) that the QoS are my absolute favourites.
Please read my posts more carefully next time because this makes everyone else think that I'm an idiot - and English is my second language, which is not the case with you both I believe.
I apologise. Though what I write still stands as a response to Mudz112
Guys, I never stated that Brioni is better than Tom Ford, I even said that I prefer Tom Ford's cut over Brioni's and I said many, many times (also in this thread) that the QoS are my absolute favourites.
Please read my posts more carefully next time because this makes everyone else think that I'm an idiot - and English is my second language, which is not the case with you both I believe.
I apologise. Though what I write still stands as a response to Mudz112
No problem You're doing a great work and you're pretty much the suit expert so I don't want especially you think that I'm an idiot, lol!
The more I see of the footage the more I hate it for the over fussiness. He looks like a dandy. Bond is simple and stylish. Not a modern day Beau Brummell.
That's in my head since the first TF suits came up {[] {[] {[]
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I added this image of Craig walking to display what I dislike about the TF suits as well as the shoes.
Now, yes, Craig can carry off slim fitting suits because he has the physique for it and that's fine. The problem I have with this current fashion trend is that it IS a fashion trend
and just because TF is doing it and Craig loves TF's clothes does not mean it looks good IMO. This image shows what I disliked about his suits in SF. They just look too constraining (not what you want when trying to conceal a shoulder holster or have to start running and jumping or anything else overtly physical). If he stands stock still with his arms at his sides at doesn't move like a mannequin they would look fine. As soon as he moves the fabric is stretching and wrinkling (look at the back of his waist - there should not be any pulling there). The sleeves should not be puckering and wrinkling like that.
Personally, I really disliked the stove pipe tight pants look. I disliked it in the sixties (it usually was accompanied by the hems being too short so it always looked liked a man was about to go wading in a stream) and I still dislike it. As far as the idea of it being a better fit for this type of foowear, I don't buy it. In fact, when this was about the only type of pants one could buy for a period of time, I found that every time I took a step the cuff would catch in the back of my shoe (no matter what style) or would never fall onto my shoe when I stopped moving...I would always end up having to flay my ankle around to get the damn thing to settle properly onto my foot. It was so annoying. Then the fashion designers went to the opposite extreme and made everything into bell bottoms, where one could hardly see the shoe at all and always ended up with filthy cuffs after a day of wear.
I may be a bit conservative when it comes to my gear, but so was Fleming and Bond. They did not follow any fashion, they wore classic, tailored clothing that would look good in any decade and has stood the test of time and thank heavens for the tailors of Savile Row.
As far as Craig wearing C&J's footgear with buckles - that's fine. I'm sure it's his personal fashion choice, but it would not be Bond's or Fleming's. Fleming had a personal dislike for such decoration on his footwear and he and Bond wore loafers sans any adornment with their suits, which at that time most men wore with laces. Fleming even wore short sleeves with his business suits - a faux pas still considered style wise - but he didn't care because he disliked studs, cufflinks and dirty cuffs with daily business wear. He was fine with those accessories in his formal tux wear as such occasions where he was required to wear it were partially about what one wears anyway.
I don't expect the film actors to wear short sleeve shirts with their suits, but when their personal fashion preference is just fashionable at that time and is nothing the character they are playing would wear (yes I'm also looking back at your safari suits Rog and your Italian suits Pierce) then for me it it's not an honest attempt at trying to become the character your portraying. I realize Craig is playing Bond the way he would be today and I won't say anything about his less formal gear but when it comes to his suits this TF straight jacketed fashion design makes me see Craig playing Bond in TF clothes instead of Bond in one of his adventures.
I added this image of Craig walking to display what I dislike about the TF suits as well as the shoes.
Now, yes, Craig can carry off slim fitting suits because he has the physique for it and that's fine. The problem I have with this current fashion trend is that it IS a fashion trend
and just because TF is doing it and Craig loves TF's clothes does not mean it looks good IMO. This image shows what I disliked about his suits in SF. They just look too constraining (not what you want when trying to conceal a shoulder holster or have to start running and jumping or anything else overtly physical). If he stands stock still with his arms at his sides at doesn't move like a mannequin they would look fine. As soon as he moves the fabric is stretching and wrinkling (look at the back of his waist - there should not be any pulling there). The sleeves should not be puckering and wrinkling like that.
Personally, I really disliked the stove pipe tight pants look. I disliked it in the sixties (it usually was accompanied by the hems being too short so it always looked liked a man was about to go wading in a stream) and I still dislike it. As far as the idea of it being a better fit for this type of foowear, I don't buy it. In fact, when this was about the only type of pants one could buy for a period of time, I found that every time I took a step the cuff would catch in the back of my shoe (no matter what style) or would never fall onto my shoe when I stopped moving...I would always end up having to flay my ankle around to get the damn thing to settle properly onto my foot. It was so annoying. Then the fashion designers went to the opposite extreme and made everything into bell bottoms, where one could hardly see the shoe at all and always ended up with filthy cuffs after a day of wear.
I may be a bit conservative when it comes to my gear, but so was Fleming and Bond. They did not follow any fashion, they wore classic, tailored clothing that would look good in any decade and has stood the test of time and thank heavens for the tailors of Savile Row.
As far as Craig wearing C&J's footgear with buckles - that's fine. I'm sure it's his personal fashion choice, but it would not be Bond's or Fleming's. Fleming had a personal dislike for such decoration on his footwear and he and Bond wore loafers sans any adornment with their suits, which at that time most men wore with laces. Fleming even wore short sleeves with his business suits - a faux pas still considered style wise - but he didn't care because he disliked studs, cufflinks and dirty cuffs with daily business wear. He was fine with those accessories in his formal tux wear as such occasions where he was required to wear it were partially about what one wears anyway.
I don't expect the film actors to wear short sleeve shirts with their suits, but when their personal fashion preference is just fashionable at that time and is nothing the character they are playing would wear (yes I'm also looking back at your safari suits Rog and your Italian suits Pierce) then for me it it's not an honest attempt at trying to become the character your portraying. I realize Craig is playing Bond the way he would be today and I won't say anything about his less formal gear but when it comes to his suits this TF straight jacketed fashion design makes me see Craig playing Bond in TF clothes instead of Bond in one of his adventures.
You make some some good points. I completely agree with you on fit. The fit isn't as bad as it was in Skyfall, but it's still not good. I wouldn't blame this on Tom Ford but rather on the costume designer. Ford's intent is for a close fit like Savile Row tailors do, not a constraining fit. This is to be blamed on the costume designer Jany Temime for choosing to fit the suits so tightly. I also agree with you that the trouser legs are too narrow, but if you're referencing what I wrote about about boots and narrow trousers, I was saying that narrow trousers are better with boots than shoe, not that boots are better with narrow trousers. Wider trousers could just as easily be worn with boots, but boots are necessary with narrow trousers since, as you say, they get caught on the back of the shoes. The trousers won't get caught in the boots.
How do you know that Fleming's Bond didn't like decoration on his shoes? Fleming's Bond wears moccasins because he didn't like laces. Okay, so monk boots are not moccasins (which should never be worn with suits), but they aren't the lace-up shoes that Fleming's Bond abhorred. You are certainly right that Fleming's Bond wouldn't wear them, but he also wouldn't wear much of what any of the film Bond wears. These boots don't have laces, and that counts for something. And Connery wore monk boots too. Fleming's Bond (along with Fleming) was not a well-dressed man when he dressed up compared to the film Bond. Short-sleeve shirts, moccasins and knitted ties with his worsted suits? None are good choices, and all three of those pieces were discarded for most of Sean Connery's Bond films. They're acceptable in the tropics, but nowhere else.
I personally like Roger Moore's safari suits since they are traditional British tropical wear, dating many years before the 70s and 80s when Moore wore his. The literary Bond may have worn them if he had travelled to the jungle like Roger Moore did. And there was an attempt made at making Brosnan's Italian suits look more English (with touches like slanted ticket pockets and double vents, at a time when neither were popular). Brioni was chosen for Bond not because of the Italian look but rather for their production abilities.
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Though Bond in Topman? That was really disappointing. Even dead men have standards!
They're very far from the best, as MrZareba said Bond should wear. They didn't look so great on him either, which might have been the point. It looks like they shrank in the wash, which would probably happen to cheap trousers like those.
Very nice. I like those a lot. I think they could be the ones.
Good point. Why did TF get chosen for QOS in the first place? Was it DC's preference?
That said, TF suits are very well made (to Zegna Couture standards).
"Skyfall" had a plethora of British brands? I have to disagree - sure, there was Barbour, C&J, All Saints, N.Peal - but mostly it was still Tom Ford, even the cufflinks were Tom Ford all the time. "Casino Royale" on the other hand was truly a British brands show off (among others) - Ted Baker, Turnbull & Asser, Albert Thurston, John Lobb, Sunspel - most of which were worn as different outfits so it felt like there was actually a variety of companies. In Skyfall the only outfit with luxurious British brands was the in the lodge scenes.
- Billy Reid, Acne, C&J, Barbour, Levis Vintage Clothing, Zara, All Saints, N.Peal.
The majority of these brands is from the UK, or Europe; LVC is based in Europe even though Levi's is an American brand. The only non UK/Euro brand is Billy Reid.
For the suits they are all made by Tom Ford, but I believe Jany designed them and took them to Tom Ford for manufacturing.
I'm hoping its different brands for the non-suiting outfits similar to Skyfall. I don't want 85% Tom Ford pieces like we saw in QoS.
Hey guys,
I found the tie. It's also a cucinelli. Here's a pic:
It's also very pricy. More so than TF ties.
I had to google Beau Brummell.
Well, if anybody wants the tie, I can proxy. But like I said, it ain't cheap.
http://www.selfridges.com/en/brunello-cucinelli-striped-silk-tie_497-3003711-MF8850018/?previewAttribute=Navy%2Fntmg
Go forth fellow Bondians!
You can't be serious. Brioni was better than Tom Ford??? Not a chance. Casino Royale may have been a better movie but Bond was dressed the best in Quantum of Solace. I wasn't overly impressed with the casino royale suits at all. As for Skyfall - I liked the new digs outfit but agree with most that the cut was far too tight. It starts to look a lot worse with the pin stripe suit he wears later in the film. The casual wear has been spot on for Craig all the way to be fair though.
Look at the photo below:
It sure looks like the tie's ribs are going the same direction of the stripes, which would mean this isn't the correct tie. Or perhaps the ribs are caused by some lighting effect and actually aren't there.
I really like the two striped grenadine ties to the right!
The Cucinelli and T&A ties look spot on colour wise but agree with Matt on the rib direction.
I agree. The suiting (the cloth a suit is made from) in Casino Royale and Skyfall was more classic Bond than some of the mohair tonic suiting in Quantum of Solace, but the suits in Quantum were much better overall. Craig looked too stiff in Casino Royale and too constricted and miniscule in Skyfall. The cut of the new suit is similar to the Quantum suits, just a bit smaller. Again, there is nowhere for Bond to hide his firearm, or even a money clip!
Please read my posts more carefully next time because this makes everyone else think that I'm an idiot - and English is my second language, which is not the case with you both I believe.
I apologise. Though what I write still stands as a response to Mudz112
No problem
That's in my head since the first TF suits came up {[] {[] {[]
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Now, yes, Craig can carry off slim fitting suits because he has the physique for it and that's fine. The problem I have with this current fashion trend is that it IS a fashion trend
and just because TF is doing it and Craig loves TF's clothes does not mean it looks good IMO. This image shows what I disliked about his suits in SF. They just look too constraining (not what you want when trying to conceal a shoulder holster or have to start running and jumping or anything else overtly physical). If he stands stock still with his arms at his sides at doesn't move like a mannequin they would look fine. As soon as he moves the fabric is stretching and wrinkling (look at the back of his waist - there should not be any pulling there). The sleeves should not be puckering and wrinkling like that.
Personally, I really disliked the stove pipe tight pants look. I disliked it in the sixties (it usually was accompanied by the hems being too short so it always looked liked a man was about to go wading in a stream) and I still dislike it. As far as the idea of it being a better fit for this type of foowear, I don't buy it. In fact, when this was about the only type of pants one could buy for a period of time, I found that every time I took a step the cuff would catch in the back of my shoe (no matter what style) or would never fall onto my shoe when I stopped moving...I would always end up having to flay my ankle around to get the damn thing to settle properly onto my foot. It was so annoying. Then the fashion designers went to the opposite extreme and made everything into bell bottoms, where one could hardly see the shoe at all and always ended up with filthy cuffs after a day of wear.
I may be a bit conservative when it comes to my gear, but so was Fleming and Bond. They did not follow any fashion, they wore classic, tailored clothing that would look good in any decade and has stood the test of time and thank heavens for the tailors of Savile Row.
As far as Craig wearing C&J's footgear with buckles - that's fine. I'm sure it's his personal fashion choice, but it would not be Bond's or Fleming's. Fleming had a personal dislike for such decoration on his footwear and he and Bond wore loafers sans any adornment with their suits, which at that time most men wore with laces. Fleming even wore short sleeves with his business suits - a faux pas still considered style wise - but he didn't care because he disliked studs, cufflinks and dirty cuffs with daily business wear. He was fine with those accessories in his formal tux wear as such occasions where he was required to wear it were partially about what one wears anyway.
I don't expect the film actors to wear short sleeve shirts with their suits, but when their personal fashion preference is just fashionable at that time and is nothing the character they are playing would wear (yes I'm also looking back at your safari suits Rog and your Italian suits Pierce) then for me it it's not an honest attempt at trying to become the character your portraying. I realize Craig is playing Bond the way he would be today and I won't say anything about his less formal gear but when it comes to his suits this TF straight jacketed fashion design makes me see Craig playing Bond in TF clothes instead of Bond in one of his adventures.
You make some some good points. I completely agree with you on fit. The fit isn't as bad as it was in Skyfall, but it's still not good. I wouldn't blame this on Tom Ford but rather on the costume designer. Ford's intent is for a close fit like Savile Row tailors do, not a constraining fit. This is to be blamed on the costume designer Jany Temime for choosing to fit the suits so tightly. I also agree with you that the trouser legs are too narrow, but if you're referencing what I wrote about about boots and narrow trousers, I was saying that narrow trousers are better with boots than shoe, not that boots are better with narrow trousers. Wider trousers could just as easily be worn with boots, but boots are necessary with narrow trousers since, as you say, they get caught on the back of the shoes. The trousers won't get caught in the boots.
How do you know that Fleming's Bond didn't like decoration on his shoes? Fleming's Bond wears moccasins because he didn't like laces. Okay, so monk boots are not moccasins (which should never be worn with suits), but they aren't the lace-up shoes that Fleming's Bond abhorred. You are certainly right that Fleming's Bond wouldn't wear them, but he also wouldn't wear much of what any of the film Bond wears. These boots don't have laces, and that counts for something. And Connery wore monk boots too. Fleming's Bond (along with Fleming) was not a well-dressed man when he dressed up compared to the film Bond. Short-sleeve shirts, moccasins and knitted ties with his worsted suits? None are good choices, and all three of those pieces were discarded for most of Sean Connery's Bond films. They're acceptable in the tropics, but nowhere else.
I personally like Roger Moore's safari suits since they are traditional British tropical wear, dating many years before the 70s and 80s when Moore wore his. The literary Bond may have worn them if he had travelled to the jungle like Roger Moore did. And there was an attempt made at making Brosnan's Italian suits look more English (with touches like slanted ticket pockets and double vents, at a time when neither were popular). Brioni was chosen for Bond not because of the Italian look but rather for their production abilities.
I am going with Shiny Black...
Do we think these are the full film model (apart from the Vuarnets in Austria) ??? Or are they just for the Rome / funeral scenes ???
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