Shifts in society
Spoff
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Another post on the board got me thinking.
I was born in the late 70's, so never actually saw any of the 60's
But when I watch Connery's Bond films, I am always stunned by the elegance and style of the era. Everything just looks great and far more stylish than nowadays. People dressed better just on a day to day basis (no arses hanging out of ill fitting jeans here).
Guys made an effort back then but were still "men's men" so to speak. The main attire was a suit, usually a hat as well. People in general seemed more refined and better behaved towards each other.
Maybe it's just me?
I would love to hear some real-life input from anyone who was around during the Connery Bond era.
I was born in the late 70's, so never actually saw any of the 60's
But when I watch Connery's Bond films, I am always stunned by the elegance and style of the era. Everything just looks great and far more stylish than nowadays. People dressed better just on a day to day basis (no arses hanging out of ill fitting jeans here).
Guys made an effort back then but were still "men's men" so to speak. The main attire was a suit, usually a hat as well. People in general seemed more refined and better behaved towards each other.
Maybe it's just me?
I would love to hear some real-life input from anyone who was around during the Connery Bond era.
Comments
Go for a drink of an evening.
" I don't listen to hip hop!"
"There are a lot more opportunities to be rude today than there were 20 years ago."
In that sense Connery was lucky to be bond at the tail end of the fashion for sharp cut suits. The end of the 60s brought a more outrageous style leading to the horror of the 70s - wide lapels, platform shoes, flares, tank tops
Put it this way Roger Moore looked great as the saint and often awful as bond. Same actor, different styles
Remember the time if someone was drinking during the day, they would
Have been talked about. As maybe having a problem !
Have gotten Hell over it!
There have been some seismic shifts in society in the last 40 years. Back in the 70s, you couldn't swear on TV - but the racism was horrendous. Thankfully now it's reversed: more inclusive communities are the norm, but there's plenty of imaginative and colourful swearing.
Re the clothes - that pared- back, slim-fit minimalist style really pioneered in the 50s and ran through to the early 60s, mostly because they were frugal times and men were no longer wearing that baggily cut 'de-mob' suits after the war. That minimalist style resurfaced in the 80s and again in more recent times - long may it continue. -{
On old repeats.
Of some younger " lads" comedians they are just as sexist as those old comedians,
Worse in fact as they can now do routines about rape etc.
I was born in 1991, but the looking at Pictures from the 80's it's easy to see how Fashion from that Decade looks cringe worthy nowadays
By the mid 80s, this had given over to the looks that most people think about when they think about the 80s -- the Michael Jackson and Miami Vice influences, the neon blues, pinks, and yellows, the shoulder pads, and later the gray power suits and two-tone shirts. Boat shoes, which have come back today, were big, though they were brown and not blue or pink like you see now.
By the late 80s, things had gotten pretty baggy, including khakis and jeans, and acid wash and button fly jeans were in, with lighter blues favored over darker ones. The miniskirt made a big comeback, as did the jean jacket and tie dye T-shirts.
Every decade will look silly in the decade that follows. The whole hipster thing looking like a costume in the first place notwithstanding, the shaved head/flat hair, tatted-up, face-ringed, no shoulder, and ultra skinny looks of the period we are now in are bound to be lampooned for years to come.
I would disagree with this. People drink more, but they just drink at home as opposed to going out. Why go out when you can buy a pleasant enough bottle of wine for £5 to take home, when it costs about £6 for a glass in a pub/restaurant ?? Women inparticular have increased their drinking.Youngsters 'pre-load' before they go out and hit the clubs because its so much cheaper to drink at home.
I don think drinking is less prevalent now at all.
Going back to the 60's in particular, older members of the family talk about flying as being something special in those days and everyone dressed up to fly as opposed to now where its 'comfy' clothes
You're absolutely right, TP. {[]
Me and the OH just Drink in.
I was born when Fleming was writing the novels. Yes, people in general, even teenagers at that time dressed conservatively and neatly. There was always a "fringe" element in society - the motorcycle "rebel" and "beatnick" culture, but it was never the dominant style. However, after decades of conservative dress and thought, the youth of the sixties started the worldwide cultural revolution and rebelled against the conservative adults through their music and dress and protests. The pros of the revolution was a change in attitude towards racism, sexism and the questioning of any authority (which as it turned out was very corrupt in many ways). The cons of the revolution was when the youth threw out a lot of good moral order (and any assemblance of clothing or hair style over the fashion of the moment). With that they became more aware of civil rights but at same time allowed drugs and organized crime to flourish.
As with all revolutions, the positive aspects of the old order (dressing well, respect for others in manners and communication) was destroyed along with the negative aspects. We never really recovered as a society in many ways which is why I can't go anywhere in a public place and not hear graphic profanity and not see graphic tattoos, or not watch TV without seeing graphic, violent images advertised during the day or see people wearing their pajamas and flip flops on my air flights.
I really miss the days when people dressed as much out of respect for others as they did out of respect for themselves and when courtesy was the norm, even if it was at times only on the surface.
I have always actually been glad Fleming did not live to see these aspects of society rot away as it has and that he was able to live and create Bond before it all fell apart.
Anything you can't run in, kick in, or easily climb over a fence in is and always has been useless transitory fashion victim mentality.
Bruce Lee in Game of Death. Now that was style I can live (and move) with.
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