The SKYFALL holsters

Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
Thought it was time to post this. Four different holsters were supplied to the SKYFALL production, but only two were seen onscreen in the final cut, albeit very briefly.

A contact of mine has confirmed many a time that Bond uses a custom shoulder holster in SKYFALL and the teaser poster for SPECTRE but he's always insisted Kirkpatrick Leather also supplied the shoulder holster for the SKYFALL production too, which never made any sense as none of the parts from the holster in the released pictures match anything from Kirkpatrick.

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Someone on the RPF who we talked to at length about it back in 2011 then made the assumption it was a Kirkpatrick and this has since become repeated ad nauseum as fact. With the Omega advert and other snippets from the PTS, it was obvious it wasn't a Kirkpatrick, but a custom holster. And with further evidence from the guy that supplies the Bond Armoury Dept about the holster they used, it's known that the retention strap/thumbreak on the custom holster had a Sam Browne retention pin to hold the gun in securely during stunts with a shoulder strap from a commercially available holster maker (still unidentified but suspected to be a modified Galco piece). Furthermore, the stunt double for Craig has a very different (and another custom) holster from the one Craig uses. Both are hand stitched and lack the perfection of high end custom makers and factory produced items.

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A similar holster to the one Craig uses in the PTS sequence in SKYFALL can be seen in the SPECTRE teaser poster, but in brown which has been weathered heavily. You can see the Sam Browne bolt clearly here.

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Anyhoo, I've since found out, that this, or any of the SKYFALL custom holsterd could not hold the modified SKYFALL PPK/S as the retention strap went underneath the tang/beavertail, and quite unlike most modern holsters which go above the tang and around the hammer. This is because it would impede your draw as the strap would sit directly across the part the web of your hand would need to grip to get the pistol out. Here is the holster showing how it fits the regular PPK perfectly....

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And here is the same holster with the PPK/S in it. The retention strap just can't work on this prop due to the different dimensions compared to a real PPK....

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Because the tang/beavertail and grip was more pronounced on the highly customised and fabricated PPK/S, they bought in a commercially available holster that has the retention strap in the correct position around the hammer/rear of the slide, and it turns out it WAS the Kirkpatrick. It's never seen on screen and was only used in the Komodo pit fight when you see the thug remove Bond's sidearm, but it was used as it fit the PPK/S perfectly....

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If you want one, the same model is still available from Kirkpatrick Leather and has remained unchanged since 2011. Get it in black....

http://www.kirkpatrickleather.com/shoulder/holster/detective-carry-137/342

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The third holster is used in all of the London scenes thereafter, and can briefly be seen when Bond jumps onto the moving Tube train...

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This is the Vega IB333 inside the waistband suede holster, similar to the one he uses for his P99 in Casino Royale.

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The fourth is an oddity as it was supplied but never used, or was cut or hidden from shots when Bond was undergoing his firearms evaluation. Like the Peltor ear defenders, it was British military issue and made for both the Browning Hi-Power and Walther PPK and mostly used by undercover operatives in Northern Ireland and also UK Special Forces in undercover roles. Originally designed by UK holster maker for the MOD, Paul Evers.

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These used to be quite common, but are now quite rare in all of the forms. Paul Evers also made the holsters for the SAS CRW teams and were famously used in Operation Nimrod in 1980.
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Comments

  • ppw3o6rppw3o6r Great BritainPosts: 2,280MI6 Agent
    Fantastic informative write up my friend & thank you XX of T**L for the gracious loan of the PPKS for these images -{
  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    Wow...wowee wow wow....love this post....for many reasons, but least of which it is so damn complete!
  • Bond Collectors' WeekendsBond Collectors' Weekends Gainesville, Florida USAPosts: 1,902MI6 Agent
    Lovely, clear photos, exemplary research. That's why this is the best Bond site! Thank you!
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Wish that we could see more TF clothing instead of this pointless thread 8-)
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  • Bond Collectors' WeekendsBond Collectors' Weekends Gainesville, Florida USAPosts: 1,902MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Wish that we could see more TF clothing instead of this pointless thread 8-)

    MI-6 can't afford fine clothing--too many holster overages. :D
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  • DBSDBS Los Angeles, CAPosts: 1,015MI6 Agent
    Incredible info!! Well done, Asp9mm! Thanks for posting this in such a concise manner! It's nice to finally know how Kirkpatrick fit into the picture.

    Kind regards,
    Craig
  • MrEddy21MrEddy21 LondonPosts: 419MI6 Agent
    Bravo! Absolutely amazing.
  • ppw3o6rppw3o6r Great BritainPosts: 2,280MI6 Agent
    I'll probably get my ass kicked for this but I love the subject matter of ASP's post so much that I've finally decided to reveal & not under The Modest Collection banner the custom PPK shoulder holster Brosnan used on Goldeneye & Tomorrow Never Dies...very similar to DC's rig and not what you thought it was is it guys? -{
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,766Chief of Staff
    Amazing detail...and the information is second to none !

    The knowledge on this site is phenomenal :o

    Thank you -{

    I wonder if Higgins will do a post like this on his trainers ? X-( :p
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  • MFisherMFisher Posts: 747MI6 Agent
    Great pics and info…. I use that same vega for my PPK/S for off duty carry… had an outside the pants holster by Bianchi for years but prefer the Vega for better concealment… Would love to pick up one of those kirkpatrick rigs eventually… although doubt I would ever use it due to having practiced for years and years drawing from the waist.. under stress I'd hate to be slapping my hip while my sidearm flapped uselessly under my arm :)
  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 3,113MI6 Agent
    Spectacular post Asp9mm! Worthy of a sticky. -{
  • Donald GrantDonald Grant U.S.A.Posts: 2,251Quartermasters
    Yes, I heartily agree. Awesome post! Great work Asp9mm!!

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  • ACACIA_AVENUEACACIA_AVENUE UKPosts: 1,775MI6 Agent
    Spectacular post Asp9mm! Worthy of a sticky. -{
    +1 -{
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Cheers guys. I've always meant to get around to posting about items like this that I'm privvy to and passionate about, but I never get the time. I'll endeavour to get some more up and also update my SOE thread as I have loads of equipment/weapons etc that needs photographing and putting on there.
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  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    Great detective work by ASP9MM ,plus of course his knowledge on this subject is 2nd to none ,well done asp9mm a very enjoyable write up.
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    ASP fantastic read well done sir - I look forward to the next one

    There are truly some well informed people on this site

    Cheers :007)
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  • paulpaul Posts: 33MI6 Agent
    excellent piece Asp
  • Gadget MeisterGadget Meister Bicester, OxonPosts: 1,972MI6 Agent
    C'mon Higgy Babe, tell ASP how good a job he's done, I know it will hurt but suck it up and just say it :)) :)) :))
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
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    I had a similar one from Price Western in the early 80s when I was carrying the PP, the holster itself doubled as a belt pancake , got rid of it when I changed to the Ruger , now wish I had kept it :(
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,766Chief of Staff
    sruzgar wrote:
    ...and here we go with the derailment of an otherwise fantastic thread! :#

    And brought back to topic... -{
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    sniperUK wrote:
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    I had a similar one from Price Western in the early 80s when I was carrying the PP, the holster itself doubled as a belt pancake , got rid of it when I changed to the Ruger , now wish I had kept it :(

    I know the PWL rig you mean. Those things were well made and sturdy. I had the same one and it had different slots for two angles of carry on the belt if I remember correctly. I wish I'd kept mine too :( It's funny because when I first saw the Kirkpatrick, I looked for the belt slots too and was surprised they weren't on there.
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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Fantastic research Asp9mm and as Mantis notes, it's great that it's so damn detailed and complete. -{

    Asp Towers must be like the Bondcave. :))
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  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    sniperUK wrote:
    detective-leather-holster.jpg

    I had a similar one from Price Western in the early 80s when I was carrying the PP, the holster itself doubled as a belt pancake , got rid of it when I changed to the Ruger , now wish I had kept it :(

    I know the PWL rig you mean. Those things were well made and sturdy. I had the same one and it had different slots for two angles of carry on the belt if I remember correctly. I wish I'd kept mine too :( It's funny because when I first saw the Kirkpatrick, I looked for the belt slots too and was surprised they weren't on there.

    That's the one , brilliant off duty holser ,especially when you needed to carry 24hrs a day. I have a couple of ex RUC PWL uniform belt holsters still knocking about one for the PP and one for the Ruger,picked them up on a surplus stall last year
  • SFPROPSSFPROPS USAPosts: 380MI6 Agent
    Wow. Great job!
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    sniperUK wrote:
    Asp9mm wrote:
    sniperUK wrote:
    detective-leather-holster.jpg

    I had a similar one from Price Western in the early 80s when I was carrying the PP, the holster itself doubled as a belt pancake , got rid of it when I changed to the Ruger , now wish I had kept it :(

    I know the PWL rig you mean. Those things were well made and sturdy. I had the same one and it had different slots for two angles of carry on the belt if I remember correctly. I wish I'd kept mine too :( It's funny because when I first saw the Kirkpatrick, I looked for the belt slots too and was surprised they weren't on there.

    That's the one , brilliant off duty holser ,especially when you needed to carry 24hrs a day. I have a couple of ex RUC PWL uniform belt holsters still knocking about one for the PP and one for the Ruger,picked them up on a surplus stall last year

    Still available, page 6 https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/pwluk.com/documents/PWL_Brochure_web.pdf :)
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    ppw3o6r wrote:
    I'll probably get my ass kicked for this but I love the subject matter of ASP's post so much that I've finally decided to reveal & not under The Modest Collection banner the custom PPK shoulder holster Brosnan used on Goldeneye & Tomorrow Never Dies...very similar to DC's rig and not what you thought it was is it guys? -{
    DSC01494.jpg

    I think this should be revisited. For nearly 20 years it's been documented that it was a Galco Executive worn in both GE and TND, but no. He wore this, the Galco was only worn in the Atlantic hotel/Paris Carver (Stoke Poges/Teri Hatcher) scenes in TND. The Galco looks cool, but in action sequences with stunt resin, rubber and practical PPK's, retention would be a problem. Brilliant Sir Donk. Da fings we learnses {[]
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  • PPK 7.65mmPPK 7.65mm Saratoga Springs NY USAPosts: 1,253MI6 Agent
    Got myself a Vega IWB #333 at the end of 2014, it fits my Walther PPK replica like a glove. Very glad that I was able to find one so quickly since quite a few other items in my collection have often taken five years or longer to obtain.
  • MFisherMFisher Posts: 747MI6 Agent
    I use the Vega IWB holster for my PPKs or my Beretta 84 for off duty carry daily.. love those... still want to build my own SPECTRE shoulder holster though.. on my to do list :)
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