On one of the MI6 posts it was said the classic Binder design is used. Sounds like it fades to black, though- I wonder if it's like the Bob Simmons version where the dot shrinks? That might be cool.
Well it's back on the front end and that's good enough for me. Looking forward to getting that giddy grin when I hear the first notes of the Bond theme and 007 walks across the screen....I may break into tears of joy -{
Well it's back on the front end and that's good enough for me. Looking forward to getting that giddy grin when I hear the first notes of the Bond theme and 007 walks across the screen....I may break into tears of joy -{
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The problem is, Craig is not really a very 'cool' or charismatic person, at least not naturally. He needs props and help.
I don't think the gunbarrel sequence will ever be as good as any of the other fellas for this reason. But this is a very small thing, nothing to lose sleep over. I still like Craig as Bond overall.
Seriously? Craig's whole performance turns on being "cool," to the degree that he makes his predecessor look campy by comparison.
On one of the MI6 posts it was said the classic Binder design is used. Sounds like it fades to black, though- I wonder if it's like the Bob Simmons version where the dot shrinks? That might be cool.
Was this a first hand account? Can we confirm this for sure. If it starts at the beginning again AND the Binder design is used, I'll be thrilled out of my mind!
The problem is, Craig is not really a very 'cool' or charismatic person, at least not naturally. He needs props and help.
I don't think the gunbarrel sequence will ever be as good as any of the other fellas for this reason. But this is a very small thing, nothing to lose sleep over. I still like Craig as Bond overall.
Seriously? Craig's whole performance turns on being "cool," to the degree that he makes his predecessor look campy by comparison.
His predecessor WAS campy
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The problem is, Craig is not really a very 'cool' or charismatic person, at least not naturally. He needs props and help.
I don't think the gunbarrel sequence will ever be as good as any of the other fellas for this reason. But this is a very small thing, nothing to lose sleep over. I still like Craig as Bond overall.
Seriously? Craig's whole performance turns on being "cool," to the degree that he makes his predecessor look campy by comparison.
His predecessor WAS campy
you clearly don't like him )
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On one of the MI6 posts it was said the classic Binder design is used. Sounds like it fades to black, though- I wonder if it's like the Bob Simmons version where the dot shrinks? That might be cool.
Was this a first hand account? Can we confirm this for sure. If it starts at the beginning again AND the Binder design is used, I'll be thrilled out of my mind!
Someone who went to the screening had posted a brief description of what the gunbarrel was like. Didn't go into detail on the music. I wonder if it has the da-da-duuun da-da- duuun during the dots?
If done well, this will be the first time a Craig era audience has had that adrenaline rush you get from the gunbarrel. When that part of the theme that punctuates the dots is omitted, it kind of loses that effect for me. TWINE for example. Maybe that's why the CGI bullet didn't bother me so much in DAD. The triumphant music compensated for it.
On one of the MI6 posts it was said the classic Binder design is used. Sounds like it fades to black, though- I wonder if it's like the Bob Simmons version where the dot shrinks? That might be cool.
Was this a first hand account? Can we confirm this for sure. If it starts at the beginning again AND the Binder design is used, I'll be thrilled out of my mind!
Someone who went to the screening had posted a brief description of what the gunbarrel was like. Didn't go into detail on the music. I wonder if it has the da-da-duuun da-da- duuun during the dots?
If done well, this will be the first time a Craig era audience has had that adrenaline rush you get from the gunbarrel. When that part of the theme that punctuates the dots is omitted, it kind of loses that effect for me. TWINE for example. Maybe that's why the CGI bullet didn't bother me so much in DAD. The triumphant music compensated for it.
I completely agree with this. But TWINE is still better than TND. It has a little punch at the beginning, whilst TND starts off weak.
Was this a first hand account? Can we confirm this for sure. If it starts at the beginning again AND the Binder design is used, I'll be thrilled out of my mind!
Someone who went to the screening had posted a brief description of what the gunbarrel was like. Didn't go into detail on the music. I wonder if it has the da-da-duuun da-da- duuun during the dots?
If done well, this will be the first time a Craig era audience has had that adrenaline rush you get from the gunbarrel. When that part of the theme that punctuates the dots is omitted, it kind of loses that effect for me. TWINE for example. Maybe that's why the CGI bullet didn't bother me so much in DAD. The triumphant music compensated for it.
I completely agree with this. But TWINE is still better than TND. It has a little punch at the beginning, whilst TND starts off weak.
I've never minded the gun barrel music from TND or TWINE. I agree that they don't induce the adrenaline rush, but they are kind of cool and sleek and understated in a way that's fitting for Brosnan's Bond.
Someone who went to the screening had posted a brief description of what the gunbarrel was like. Didn't go into detail on the music. I wonder if it has the da-da-duuun da-da- duuun during the dots?
If done well, this will be the first time a Craig era audience has had that adrenaline rush you get from the gunbarrel. When that part of the theme that punctuates the dots is omitted, it kind of loses that effect for me. TWINE for example. Maybe that's why the CGI bullet didn't bother me so much in DAD. The triumphant music compensated for it.
I completely agree with this. But TWINE is still better than TND. It has a little punch at the beginning, whilst TND starts off weak.
I've never minded the gun barrel music from TND or TWINE. I agree that they don't induce the adrenaline rush, but they are kind of cool and sleek and understated in a way that's fitting for Brosnan's Bond.
Was this a first hand account? Can we confirm this for sure. If it starts at the beginning again AND the Binder design is used, I'll be thrilled out of my mind!
Someone who went to the screening had posted a brief description of what the gunbarrel was like. Didn't go into detail on the music. I wonder if it has the da-da-duuun da-da- duuun during the dots?
If done well, this will be the first time a Craig era audience has had that adrenaline rush you get from the gunbarrel. When that part of the theme that punctuates the dots is omitted, it kind of loses that effect for me. TWINE for example. Maybe that's why the CGI bullet didn't bother me so much in DAD. The triumphant music compensated for it.
I completely agree with this. But TWINE is still better than TND. It has a little punch at the beginning, whilst TND starts off weak.
Of the two certainly. TWINE had a better arrangement and I liked the opening shot on Pierce. BTW, Suits of James Bond -great website!
Someone who went to the screening had posted a brief description of what the gunbarrel was like. Didn't go into detail on the music. I wonder if it has the da-da-duuun da-da- duuun during the dots?
If done well, this will be the first time a Craig era audience has had that adrenaline rush you get from the gunbarrel. When that part of the theme that punctuates the dots is omitted, it kind of loses that effect for me. TWINE for example. Maybe that's why the CGI bullet didn't bother me so much in DAD. The triumphant music compensated for it.
I completely agree with this. But TWINE is still better than TND. It has a little punch at the beginning, whilst TND starts off weak.
Of the two certainly. TWINE had a better arrangement and I liked the opening shot on Pierce. BTW, Suits of James Bond -great website!
I completely agree with this. But TWINE is still better than TND. It has a little punch at the beginning, whilst TND starts off weak.
I've never minded the gun barrel music from TND or TWINE. I agree that they don't induce the adrenaline rush, but they are kind of cool and sleek and understated in a way that's fitting for Brosnan's Bond.
Brosnan's Bond is understated? ?:)
Maybe understated isn't the right word. Nonchalant, smooth, that kind of thing.
On one of the MI6 posts it was said the classic Binder design is used. Sounds like it fades to black, though- I wonder if it's like the Bob Simmons version where the dot shrinks? That might be cool.
OMG, they read my post and made it happen! Seriously, I have the classic Binder gunbarrel so engraved in my mind, that it's difficult to accept the new CGI design. It would be amazing with Craig.
It looks really good except for the too-fast blood. The music is TND/TWINE style, which is disappointing but at least has some connection to previous Bond films. At least it's still the Bond theme and Newman didn't try to put something else in there.
For the music: I liked the Bond theme vamp over the logos at the beginning, but then when the blaring fanfare comes in the screen is black. That just didn't work. The loud music cue needed something on screen (the dots) to balance what we're hearing. I don't know if that was Mendes' choice or Newman's. The end of the Bond theme after the vamp a la David Arnold didn't bother me as much.
For the visuals:
It looks good until the end. Craig has a good walk and shot. The blood just doesn't look good, and the fade out without the moving left and right takes away something special from it. and the fade to black with the title card is completely unnecessary. It would have had so much more visual impact if the gunbarrel opened up onto the parade. "The dead are alive" adds nothing at all to the Mexico sequence. The music would have gone straight into the Day of the Dead music. The fade to black makes the gunbarrel look stuck on to the beginning and not integrated with the film.
I'm glad the gunbarrel is at the beginning again, but the poor execution of the music and the end left me disappointed.
I really like DC his walk and pose. Nice to see it's almost the same as in Skyfall. But I would have prefered the Brosnan look and blood. Also the fade wasn't necessary, why not the regular moving dot. Can't be THAT hard to make a proper gunbarrel.
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I really like DC his walk and pose. Nice to see it's almost the same as in Skyfall. But I would have prefered the Brosnan look and blood. Also the fade wasn't necessary, why not the regular moving dot. Can't be THAT hard to make a proper gunbarrel.
Mendes is funny about his Bond film openers, apparently: he vetoed the gunbarrel at the beginning of SF because he wanted that opening shot of Craig's silhouette stepping into the light with a specific musical cue, and he didn't think it would work with the gunbarrel. I have no doubt that he opted for a fade to black with SP so that he could open with the title card about the dead being alive.
Personally, I've never bothered to rank the actual Bond gunbarrels in any order...but I thought this one was great---but then again, I believe it could have been made to work with the traditional one for both SF and SP. But oh well
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Was this a first hand account? Can we confirm this for sure. If it starts at the beginning again AND the Binder design is used, I'll be thrilled out of my mind!
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/wish-i-was-at-disneyland/id1202780413?mt=2
But I read that in the Dr. No gunbarrel it is not actually Connery who does the walk on?
Legendary Bond Stunt coordinator, Connery didn't actually do
one until Thunderball.
His predecessor WAS campy
you clearly don't like him
Someone who went to the screening had posted a brief description of what the gunbarrel was like. Didn't go into detail on the music. I wonder if it has the da-da-duuun da-da- duuun during the dots?
If done well, this will be the first time a Craig era audience has had that adrenaline rush you get from the gunbarrel. When that part of the theme that punctuates the dots is omitted, it kind of loses that effect for me. TWINE for example. Maybe that's why the CGI bullet didn't bother me so much in DAD. The triumphant music compensated for it.
I completely agree with this. But TWINE is still better than TND. It has a little punch at the beginning, whilst TND starts off weak.
I've never minded the gun barrel music from TND or TWINE. I agree that they don't induce the adrenaline rush, but they are kind of cool and sleek and understated in a way that's fitting for Brosnan's Bond.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/wish-i-was-at-disneyland/id1202780413?mt=2
Brosnan's Bond is understated? ?:)
Of the two certainly. TWINE had a better arrangement and I liked the opening shot on Pierce. BTW, Suits of James Bond -great website!
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Maybe understated isn't the right word. Nonchalant, smooth, that kind of thing.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/wish-i-was-at-disneyland/id1202780413?mt=2
OMG, they read my post and made it happen!
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For the visuals:
It looks good until the end. Craig has a good walk and shot. The blood just doesn't look good, and the fade out without the moving left and right takes away something special from it. and the fade to black with the title card is completely unnecessary. It would have had so much more visual impact if the gunbarrel opened up onto the parade. "The dead are alive" adds nothing at all to the Mexico sequence. The music would have gone straight into the Day of the Dead music. The fade to black makes the gunbarrel look stuck on to the beginning and not integrated with the film.
I'm glad the gunbarrel is at the beginning again, but the poor execution of the music and the end left me disappointed.
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I rank it at number 21.
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Mendes is funny about his Bond film openers, apparently: he vetoed the gunbarrel at the beginning of SF because he wanted that opening shot of Craig's silhouette stepping into the light with a specific musical cue, and he didn't think it would work with the gunbarrel. I have no doubt that he opted for a fade to black with SP so that he could open with the title card about the dead being alive.
Personally, I've never bothered to rank the actual Bond gunbarrels in any order...but I thought this one was great---but then again, I believe it could have been made to work with the traditional one for both SF and SP. But oh well
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