Film Budgets for Future Bond Films

eric7064eric7064 USAPosts: 344MI6 Agent
With the recent release of Spectre I have long thought about the budgets of Bond films. In Craigs era the budgets have been
CR- 150mill
QOS- 200 mill
SF- 150-200mill
Spectre- 250mill

For Spectre to even BREAK EVEN it has to gross 650 million worldwide. Which is by no means an easy task. When compared to Skyfall which made over 1billion dollars it seems like a no brainer. But Spectre wont reach 1billion and most people didnt think it would either.

Now dont get me wrong these movies make ALOT of money. But Sony is considering not renewing the Bond licence. Which is certainly curious. My main question is do Bond movies need to have such HUGE budgets. Yes this is a huge global franchise, but to see Spectre have such a big budget is mind boggling. More money does not always translate to a better film, although it cant hurt.

Usually when a new Bond takes over the Budget drops some from the last movie. Playing it safe maybe. But I think the Bond movies need to go back to a 100-150 budget, which is still huge. Its Bond, people will go see the film. Skyfall being the 50 year anniversary and being universally loved by critics certainly helped push it over 1billion globally. But I think that is the rare case and wont be the norm.

For a movie to even gross 500 million is an accomplishment in itself. And for how costly Spectre was it needs to make 650 million just to break even. Thats insane!

Curious what everyone else thinks on the films budgets. No film has been under 100 since Goldeneye which was at 58 million. I really think the sweet range is around 150, not 250.

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  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    If I m not wrong, SPECTRE made $300M WW by Nov 8 (NA weekend, UK two weeks, etc.). It is slated to release in other markets. In NA, the cinemas are usually full of ppl. So by the end of next week, it would probably be in the black :007)

    If the film grosses close to $1B, the producers will not be too worried about budget. However, at some point law of diminishing returns would apply. How much competing franchises are spending would hv to be taken into account as well
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    The Chinese market is a wild card as well...there could be a lot of money made there. Regardless, I predict they'll try to spend less on #25.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    If any film is likely to make money it would be Bond, but some
    rumours about the budget, do seem to be astronomical. I like
    To think of Spectre as a gift to the fans. ;) ( a one off, budget)
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  • eric7064eric7064 USAPosts: 344MI6 Agent
    Agreed. And by no means is my post looking at Spectre as a failure for the box office in any sense. It still has a long way to go. But I do think they'll bring the budget down to at least 200 for the next film. Especially If Sony drops the rights.
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    eric7064 wrote:
    Especially If Sony drops the rights.

    Will they though? The Sony Bond's have made $2.2bn so far, excluding Spectre!
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I wonder ( when adjusted for inflation etc) how much would
    TB or YOLT have cost to make today ? :D
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  • eric7064eric7064 USAPosts: 344MI6 Agent
    eric7064 wrote:
    Especially If Sony drops the rights.

    Will they though? The Sony Bond's have made $2.2bn so far, excluding Spectre!

    If I was a gambling man I'd say yes. I think Warner Bros or Fox will go after it. Skyfall made Sony roughly 60 million. Spectre will do less, and there maybe a bidding war. Which could scare some people away because DC isn't guranteed for the next entry.
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    I wonder ( when adjusted for inflation etc) how much would
    TB or YOLT have cost to make today ? :D

    TB $9m = $67.9m
    YOLT $10.3 = $73.3m
    TSWLM $14m = $54m
    MR $34m = $111m
    GE $58m = $90m
    TWINE $135m = $192m

    Some quite crazy numbers in there. TB and YOLT are expensive pictures for the time - but then again, TB made $1.06bn with inflation too.

    The Sound of Music released in 1965 too, cost roughly the same to make, but with inflation made $2.1bn!
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :D interesting figures, " Perfectly rounded" -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    eric7064 wrote:
    With the recent release of Spectre I have long thought about the budgets of Bond films. In Craigs era the budgets have been
    CR- 150mill
    QOS- 200 mill
    SF- 150-200mill
    Spectre- 250mill

    For Spectre to even BREAK EVEN it has to gross 650 million worldwide. Which is by no means an easy task. When compared to Skyfall which made over 1billion dollars it seems like a no brainer. But Spectre wont reach 1billion and most people didnt think it would either.

    Now dont get me wrong these movies make ALOT of money. But Sony is considering not renewing the Bond licence. Which is certainly curious. My main question is do Bond movies need to have such HUGE budgets. Yes this is a huge global franchise, but to see Spectre have such a big budget is mind boggling. More money does not always translate to a better film, although it cant hurt.

    Usually when a new Bond takes over the Budget drops some from the last movie. Playing it safe maybe. But I think the Bond movies need to go back to a 100-150 budget, which is still huge. Its Bond, people will go see the film. Skyfall being the 50 year anniversary and being universally loved by critics certainly helped push it over 1billion globally. But I think that is the rare case and wont be the norm.

    For a movie to even gross 500 million is an accomplishment in itself. And for how costly Spectre was it needs to make 650 million just to break even. Thats insane!

    Curious what everyone else thinks on the films budgets. No film has been under 100 since Goldeneye which was at 58 million. I really think the sweet range is around 150, not 250.


    A simple question... if SP cost 250 million to make, wouldn't it need to earn 250 million (not 650 million) to break even? What am I missing?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Roughly for every $ spent, to start making a profit you need to make $3.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • cheldcheld Posts: 300MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    A simple question... if SP cost 250 million to make, wouldn't it need to earn 250 million (not 650 million) to break even? What am I missing?

    The producers and distributors pay 100% of production and advertising costs, but split ticket sales 50/50 with cinemas.
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