The most normal Bond films

MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
I'm not saying their bad, but what films are the 'normal' films? In that, the films aren't known for anything special, and don't add anything to the franchise. They're just like 'day in the life of Bond' films. I'd say:

- Thunderball
- Diamonds Are Forever
- The Man With The Golen Gun
- For Your Eyes Only
- Octopussy
- The Living Daylights
- Tomorrow Never Dies

I didn't include any of the actors' first films (with the exception of TLD) as they are important times of changing the actor. I didn't include TWINE as it had unusually a female main villain, and left out AVTAK as that film is well known for how old Roger was.
1.LTK 2.AVTAK 3.OP 4.FYEO 5.TND 6.LALD 7.GE 8.GF 9.TSWLM 10.SPECTRE 11.SF 12.MR 13.YOLT 14.TLD 15.CR (06) 16.TMWTGG 17.TB 18.FRWL 19.TWINE 20.OHMSS 21.DAF 22.DAD 23.QoS 24.NSNA 25.DN 26.CR (67)

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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    I wouldn't consider FYEO a "normal" Bond film, as I consider it a major change of pace for the Moore Era.

    I'd say TND, TB, YOLT, TMWTGG, and OP fit that description.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    This is a tough question as almost every Bond film at the time of its release cheered up most of the fans .... For e.g. take DAF which is on your list. It may appear dated now but it made a huge impact on its release. It is amongst the highest grossing Bond films when adjusted for inflation

    It is not the film's fault that in 2015, many find it irrelevant. In fact, the background score still sounds good esp. the Wint and Kidd theme, theme song, etc. The 1st hour is highly entertaining, and when you have watched all the "great" Bond films, this one proves to be a nice filler before you once again get back to watching the "great" Bond films .... So all Bond films have added something to the fans' experience esp. at the time of their release
  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    I wouldn't consider FYEO a "normal" Bond film, as I consider it a major change of pace for the Moore Era.

    I'd say TND, TB, YOLT, TMWTGG, and OP fit that description.

    * TB had ground breaking underwater sequences

    * YOLT was the first one to feature an elaborate villains lair, which arguably is still considered the best and a benchmark
  • Julius No M.D.Julius No M.D. Posts: 110MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
    - Thunderball
    - The Living Daylights

    Thunderball was the peak of the series' success for a long time. Even if it were arguably a lesser effort than the first 3 films, it undoubtedly had an impact on the series' legacy.

    The Living Daylights also was a benchmark for the series. It had higher sales and acclaim than the past 2 Bond films, and it changed the direction of the series. Every film has been more gritty, violent and set-piece oriented since.
  • Julius No M.D.Julius No M.D. Posts: 110MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
    If you mean Bond films which are entertaining but didn't have much impact or influence of anything, here would be my list:
    Diamonds Are Forever
    The Man with the Golden Gun
    Octopussy
    A View to a Kill
    License to Kill
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World Is Not Enough (They did something unique with the villains, but it wasn't executed well enough to stand out)
    Die Another Day
    Quantum of Solace (Even though it's starkly different in some ways, it didn't leave much of a mark)
    Spectre (It seems like most people enjoyed it but the experience never stuck with them)

    I'm not saying I dislike these films. A number of them are underrated and among my favorites. I'm just speaking objectively.
  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    If we're talking about Bond films which are entertaining but didn't have much impact or influence of anything, here would be my list: Diamonds Are Forever, The Man with the Golden Gun, For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, A View to a Kill, License to Kill, Tomorrow Never Dies, The World Is Not Enough, Die Another Day, Quantum of Solace, Spectre.

    I'm not saying I dislike these films. A number of them are underrated and among my favorites. I'm just speaking objectively.

    It can be said that DAF actually set the tone for campy films which many fans love, while LTK brought in elements such as dark violent scenes / theme, Bond going rogue, etc. :)
  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Spectre (It seems like most people enjoyed it but the experience never stuck with them)
    I think it's far too soon to be able to make any broad statements about that movie. ?:)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    DN - Sort of normal, but it was the first one, so less action
    FRWL - Sort of normal, but more espionage than usual
    GF - Very normal, but this one set the formula
    TB - I would say it's normal, but it is really boring at times
    YOLT - Possible contender for most normal
    OHMSS - Unusual, as it is the only time bond is played by Lazenby, and the only time he marries
    DAF - IMO this film is rather weird and trippy
    LALD - Again, slightly weird feel
    TMWTGG - Weird feel again
    TSWLM - Another contender for the most normal
    MR - Space, so far from normal
    FYEO - More serious for Moore, so another departure
    OP - Heavy on comedy, so not normal
    AVTAK - The villains are weird :D
    TLD - Pretty normal, but also unique in that it is only 1 of 2 Daltons
    LTK - Obviously a huge departure
    GE - Normal, but feels more modern, so it felt fresh at the time
    TND - 3rd contender for most normal
    TWINE - Female main villain, so it has that
    DAD - Over the top, so not normal
    CR - Very different from the bond films we're used to
    QOS - Again, a different approach
    SF - More epic and character-driven than usual
    SP - Kinda normal, but at the same time not, because of the bond/villain relationship

    So...
    IMO, we have 3 contenders for the most normal bond film:
    YOLT
    TSWLM
    TND

    TSWLM is heavier on comedy... so that's out
    YOLT is one of the few with Blofeld as the main villain... so that's out

    TND it is then.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    I don't really know where this is supposed to go, as some members list half the franchise.
    every movie has its unique moments and is something special!
    "You see Mr.Bond, you can't kill my dreams...but my dreams can kill you.Time to face destiny" - "Time to face gravity"
  • Julius No M.D.Julius No M.D. Posts: 110MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Spectre (It seems like most people enjoyed it but the experience never stuck with them)
    I think it's far too soon to be able to make any broad statements about that movie. ?:)

    Maybe it will get a renaissance over time, but it's a Bond-formula film with little deviation. As it stands now, critics liked it (but didn't love it), Bond fans are polarized and the most casual moviegoers I know enjoyed it but didn't rave over it either.

    It's a good movie, but I just don't see it being one of the standout films in the series (objectively speaking).
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    It's a good movie, but I just don't see it being one of the standout films in the series (objectively speaking).
    My good man, the movie is a landmark in the series for bucking longstanding Bond trends and doing a classic BOND movie! It followed no trend, it borrowed from nothing but CLASSIC BOND.
    The other Bonds borrowed or were influenced by Bourne Or Nolan's Batman; this Bond is its own beast!
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    It's a good movie, but I just don't see it being one of the standout films in the series (objectively speaking).
    My good man, the movie is a landmark in the series for bucking longstanding Bond trends and doing a classic BOND movie! It followed no trend, it borrowed from nothing but Austin Powers :D .
    The other Bonds borrowed or were influenced by Bourne Or Nolan's Batman; this Bond is its own beast!
  • Julius No M.D.Julius No M.D. Posts: 110MI6 Agent
    So basically it's a normal Bond film.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia, PAPosts: 754MI6 Agent
    TND and OP are, in my mind, the most by the numbers standard Bond formula Bond movies. And that is not a bad thing at all. Love them both a ton!
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Does a "normal" Bond film denote classic formula? Because I would expect that formulaic Bonds typically are larger than life.

    A "day in the life of Bond" IMO would be something more like the more simple films, like TLD or DN or FRWL etc...

    If anything, the formulaic films like TB, TND, OP would be the more over the top missions in Bond's life.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    I would say TLD, TND, TWINE, and SP are pretty "normal"

    Each Bond film is unique to us, but probably all look the same to average movie goers.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
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