What if GoldenEye failed?

eric7064 · February 2016

This isn't about the movie necessarily. We all have our own opinions on GE and Brosnans tenure. Although GE is my favorite film.

What if GoldenEye failed at the box office? Where do you think Bond would be? With the short Dalton tenure due to the movies not making enough what if GoldenEye had the same fate?

I have a feeling If GE bombed that Bond would have taken awhile to come back on screen if at all. GE I think ressurected and saved the Bond franchise for a new generation and brought fans back in. There already was a 6 year gap between LTK and GE, if GE fails maybe Bond wouldn't have returned until 2006, or at all. What are your thoughts? Remember not a review on the movie or Brosnan.

heartbroken_mr_drax · February 2016

I think even if the film only made half of what it did and still had the success of the video game they still would've made TND.

Only then if both GE and TND didn't really do very well they might've pulled the plug.

Sir Hillary Bray · February 2016

heartbroken_mr_drax wrote:

I think even if the film only made half of what it did and still had the success of the video game they still would've made TND.

Only then if both GE and TND didn't really do very well they might've pulled the plug.

Agreed. Given that Brosnan had been earmarked for the role since the mid-1980s, I think they would have had another go with him. If even that went nowhere, they may have concluded the series had run its course.

Thankfully, this all just speculation! {[]

heartbroken_mr_drax · February 2016

Kind of hard thinking a Bond film would ever fail at the box office too.

Considering that LTK is the lowest grossing (adj. for infla.), it still made five times its budget.

Mr Martini · February 2016

I don't think they would've concluded the series. Even if TND didn't succeed. They may have let Brosnan go and thought things over like actors to play Bond, script writers etc... Then if all the movie history played out like it did with the success of all the reboots. We probably would've received exactly what we did in 2006. A rebooted Bond franchise.

broadshoulder · February 2016

Despite what many of us think of the Brosnan films - Goldeneye did massive business. It reaped what it sowed. The Americans had what they wanted - a man who lived up to the cliches of Bond ie dinner jacket, vodka martini's, Aston Martin. They also made sure it was a big hit in America first with premieres in Los Angeles/New York. He was what they wanted.

So was GE inevitable? Probably. It gave back his confidence. He could do anything. It gave him legions of fans and provided him wit a computer game. Something that had never happened before. But with success comes weakness and with Eon they could never get his films right. So although GE was a massive success the slow descent to a reboot was ever in place...

Dale · February 2016

I think had Goldeneye not have been the success it was it would have affected the series and it may have perhaps gone on a longer hiatus.

Goldeneye in itself is a massive film. It received largely positive reviews and the video game brought it to even greater heights. It was a breath of fresh air. It was personal in the same way LTK was, however it had the right amount of humour and swagger about it that was not properly seen in decades.

While it was a mini reboot in terms of actors, director, score, tone etc there have been many other movies in the series that could be called mini re-boots themselves or at the very least turning points.

Goldfinger - bigger, brighter, camper, funnier and full of glamour. The whole dynamic changed here and paved the way for a number of movies that followed.

OHMSS - Bond at his most vulnerable and back to basics, a new actor, a wedding and an emotional finale!

Diamond's are Forever - A return in Connery as Bond is at his most daft, the humour is off the scale and this is where the campness peaks.

Live and Let Die - a slightly darker tone with a young Roger Moore and a plot very very different than anything we've seen before. You can tell it's the 70's and the largely black cast is something they had not yet explored.

FYEO - Again, back to basics. The reference to Bond's past in the beginning. Moore at his best

TLD/LTK - Dalton takes Bond back down to earth completely and plays the agent the closest to how Flemming created. Despite some daft attempts at humour which sometimes clashed with Dalton's serious portrayal - this was a gritty period in Bond's history.

Goldeneye - Bond was cool again. I always see Brosnan as a cross between Connery and Moore, hence why he was very popular and got the balance just right. He looked the part and simply oozed charisma.

Casino - A Blond Bond suited to the public demand and cinema trend of damaged leads and indeed written in character to the literary character. Not a classic Bond film, but the reboot of all reboots and quite possibly, technically at least - the best movie ijn the series.

What if GoldenEye failed?

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