Blofeld Behind Everything Actually Helps Skyfall Make Some Sense
Gassy Man
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To me, Skyfall's still a stupid movie. I didn't think as much early on, but the more I see it, the stupider it gets. It's entertaining and sentimental, but it's plot is just dumb and derivative. I enjoy it the way I do Star Wars, which is just not to think too much about it.
Oddly enough, though some critics slammed Spectre's plot, it actually helps to make Skyfall's dopey plot make more sense.
For instance, Skyfall required an enormous suspension of disbelief to believe that Silva could pull off all the machinations of his scheme, some of which appeared to rely on completely random events. But not if Blofeld was really calling the shots with some earlier version of Nine Eyes, watching every move MI6 was making and giving Silva updates in real time. In the film, we're led to believe that Silva is essentially already doing this. But Spectre suggests -- and that's the problem, as it only just suggests -- that Blofeld is really the one behind it all.
Now, the issue is there is nothing dramatic onscreen to support this except one or two flimsy lines by Blofeld. A better film -- heck, a B movie from the 60s -- would have had Blofeld take Bond to one of those many, many TV screens in his lair and play back sequences from Skfyall, showing Bond and the audience just how he did it. He would have reference White, Le Chiffre,Vesper, Green, and Silva. Then, once the gravity of what's happened has sunk in to Bond, he could have twisted the knife by showing Madeline her father's demise. It would have been tense and dramatic and also filled in the blanks without a cheesy throwaway line.
But these are writers who don't seem to understand the bricks need mortar to keep them together. They think that barely mentioning something and letting the audience imagine the rest happening off screen is all that is needed.
Oddly enough, though some critics slammed Spectre's plot, it actually helps to make Skyfall's dopey plot make more sense.
For instance, Skyfall required an enormous suspension of disbelief to believe that Silva could pull off all the machinations of his scheme, some of which appeared to rely on completely random events. But not if Blofeld was really calling the shots with some earlier version of Nine Eyes, watching every move MI6 was making and giving Silva updates in real time. In the film, we're led to believe that Silva is essentially already doing this. But Spectre suggests -- and that's the problem, as it only just suggests -- that Blofeld is really the one behind it all.
Now, the issue is there is nothing dramatic onscreen to support this except one or two flimsy lines by Blofeld. A better film -- heck, a B movie from the 60s -- would have had Blofeld take Bond to one of those many, many TV screens in his lair and play back sequences from Skfyall, showing Bond and the audience just how he did it. He would have reference White, Le Chiffre,Vesper, Green, and Silva. Then, once the gravity of what's happened has sunk in to Bond, he could have twisted the knife by showing Madeline her father's demise. It would have been tense and dramatic and also filled in the blanks without a cheesy throwaway line.
But these are writers who don't seem to understand the bricks need mortar to keep them together. They think that barely mentioning something and letting the audience imagine the rest happening off screen is all that is needed.
Comments
I think its a bit too much, would rather it had been just Quantum.
Not sure why but I see Silva as his own man rather then a member
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If anything Skyfall is even worse a re-watch after seeing Spectre.
Spectre showed me what greatness could have been in 2012.
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But yes, considering that Blofeld is behind some of the events contained in all of the last few movies does help with the cohesion and general reveal of "what's behind this" - similar to the linking of Mr White through CR/QoS.
"Better make that two."
I think it struggles to get beyond a clunky retcon personally. I can almost hear the script meeting where they came up with it " guys, guys, now that we can use Spectre again I've come up with a way that we can get out of some of this mess we have got ourselves into . It was all part of a plan all along! We can tie up loose ends, use Spectre and make it look like we had a plan all along. Perfect "
Silva / Skyfall on its own
and maybe Blofeld should have been a Quantum member but overthrowed the leadership (hence killing Mr White) and turning it into SPECTRE (unless that of course is what actually occured but not clarified)
That's not what happened because Blofeld was behind everything and implied he was more important than Mr White. I gathered that Mr White was on the level of Denbigh and in charge of his big projects. But I would have preferred what you describe and that Blofeld was not behind everything else in the previous three films.
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Blofeld must have hired Silva because of his desire to get revenge on M, since M is close to Bond.
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Look, Silva clearly had help from what I would guess to be mercs, and I always wondered how he paid for them or why they associated with him (he being an obvious nutball)- now I don't.
Silva remains the same to me; it's the behind the scenes logistics that have changed a bit.
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I think Blofeld used Silva's personal issues to his advantage. Blofeld and Silva have a lot in common since both are driven by revenge. Blofeld is probably more of a madman than Silva, since Silva actually has reasons for wanting revenge.
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In part.
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