Bond's Pain Threshold

CmdrAtticusCmdrAtticus United StatesPosts: 1,102MI6 Agent
in General James Bond Chat
My wife is one of those who have a naturally high threshold to pain. I asked her about it and did some research on it. From what I've been able to find out, this ability appears to be genetic to a large degree. Also, alcoholics or those who might be near borderline alcholics (like Bond) also develop this higher threshold because of how the drug works on the body's pain receptors. Apparently, years of drinking at rather high levels alters the level of tolerance. There is also a neuromodulator (a substance that changes neurotransmitter effectiveness) called Substance P that allows us to perceive a stimulus as painful and there are some rare medical conditions where substance P is very low or completely absent and a person feels little or no pain. Bond could be one of those rare people and combine that with a genetic predisposition of high tolerance with a high level of drinking and it would explain his ability to endure physically exhausting workouts as well as the situations where he received nasty wounds, had his finger broken and his scrotum pummeled.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Wow, this is rather fascinating! -{
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    -{ indeed very interesting, I remember reading that women in general have a higher
    Tolerance to pain than men.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    -{ indeed very interesting, I remember reading that women in general have a higher
    Tolerance to pain than men.

    I've read a lot about how they have a much higher tolerance for sickness, which is why they think men are wimps when ill. Bond can take a bullet, but I can just imagine him whining to Moneypenny when he catches a cold.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    My wife could be following the teachings of Scientology, as she barely made a sound
    giving birth twice. ( although she did plenty of complaining during the conception ) :D
    Much respect Stag for your resolve with the dentist, when I'm in that chair. I make sure
    I've plenty of drugs in me, and feeling no pain. ;)
    Sadly Matt S, I've nothing to back my claim up ( as it's one of those little facts, in the back
    Of my head. Which I've read somewhere ) so it could well be it is indeed, sickness they have
    A higher tolerance of, as I have reached the stage in life. Where my "Facts" may not be 100%.
    Although they do now say " Man Flu" is a real condition, as we men are such sensitive creatures. :)
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,750Chief of Staff
    stag wrote:
    Good idea for a thread. I guess I have a high pain threshold. For example I almost never have anesthetic if having any dental work done (& I don't mean a scale & polish!). The dentist will always say "Stop me if it gets too much" but I have never once done so. Yes it's painful but I ride it out.

    Took me years to realise people had an anesthetic for dental work :o I changed dentist and he went to give an injection, I wondered what the blinking heck he was doing and I shouted at him :))
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  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    stag wrote:
    Good idea for a thread. I guess I have a high pain threshold. For example I almost never have anesthetic if having any dental work done (& I don't mean a scale & polish!). The dentist will always say "Stop me if it gets too much" but I have never once done so. Yes it's painful but I ride it out.

    I find whimpering helps :))
    Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    zaphod99 wrote:
    stag wrote:
    Good idea for a thread. I guess I have a high pain threshold. For example I almost never have anesthetic if having any dental work done (& I don't mean a scale & polish!). The dentist will always say "Stop me if it gets too much" but I have never once done so. Yes it's painful but I ride it out.

    I find whimpering helps :))
    I need anesthetic if they're drilling close to a nerve, else my natural reaction is to jerk away and strike out violently.

    It's a training thing... 8-)
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  • IanTIanT Posts: 573MI6 Agent
    I was unlucky enough to have a steroid injection in my eyeball once. That really hurt, despite the doctor's assurances that it shouldn't.

    I also had a gentleman's operation last year (the one where you don't ride your bike home) and that also hurt incredibly.

    My problem? Local anaesthetic doesn't really work much for me so I just have to grit my teeth and bear it. I think part of the pain tolerance thing is a mental attitude. I remember reading a blog by a doctor who worked in the Amazon. This young lad comes up to him with an injury that the doctor said would have caused him incapacitating pain. This young lad, not having been mollycoddled by Western society, just thought it was part of life, got it dressed by the doctor and sodded off into the jungle again.

    What a dude!
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    IanT wrote:
    I was unlucky enough to have a steroid injection in my eyeball once. That really hurt, despite the doctor's assurances that it shouldn't.

    I also had a gentleman's operation last year (the one where you don't ride your bike home) and that also hurt incredibly.

    My problem? Local anaesthetic doesn't really work much for me so I just have to grit my teeth and bear it. I think part of the pain tolerance thing is a mental attitude. I remember reading a blog by a doctor who worked in the Amazon. This young lad comes up to him with an injury that the doctor said would have caused him incapacitating pain. This young lad, not having been mollycoddled by Western society, just thought it was part of life, got it dressed by the doctor and sodded off into the jungle again.

    What a dude!

    Love the term 'Gentleman's operation' I hear you brother, I hear you :007)
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I too had a "Gentleman's Operation" ( no more little TPs, for me) and my
    Wife seemed displeased that I had no discomfort, at all. :))
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    My grandfather had an unusually high tolerance for electricity. I guess he had a pretty good tolerance in general, but he just didn't feel electrical shocks as much as most of us. On the farm we used electrical threads/fences (I don't know the term in English) to keep the animals in. When we needed to test the power of the fence we used grandad as a guinea pig :))
    If he felt the electricity "a little bit", we knew it was working OK. If he couldn't feel anything, we needed to touch the electrical thread (the power was never enough to hurt us, just enough to scare away an ox). I don't know why he had such a high tolerance for this. I asked him if it could be because of his advanced age (he worked until he was 90)and his nerve endings dieing away. He couldn't say, because we didn't hav electricity until WWII.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I once had to have a large back tooth removed, so was sent to a different
    specialist dental surgeon. After it had been removed, she told me I was
    "Very Brave" as she normally has to put people " completely out !".........
    ...... I was expecting a badge saying something like " I'm a brave boy" but
    sadly none was offered ! :#
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  • CoolHandBondCoolHandBond Mactan IslandPosts: 7,217MI6 Agent
    Complete wimp here, I need anaesthetic for dental treatment - I hate pain and could never have the snip either :))

    Like TP I had a local anaesthetic in hospital to remove two wisdom teeth and never felt a thing - could not imagine going through that ordeal without it - reminds me of the movie Marathon Man - I have a bottle of oil of cloves in the medicine cabinet in case of toothache - but can imagine Stag gritting his teeth and telling Laurence Olivier where to get off :))
    Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
  • CmdrAtticusCmdrAtticus United StatesPosts: 1,102MI6 Agent
    stag wrote:
    Good idea for a thread. I guess I have a high pain threshold. For example I almost never have anesthetic if having any dental work done (& I don't mean a scale & polish!). The dentist will always say "Stop me if it gets too much" but I have never once done so. Yes it's painful but I ride it out.

    Same with my wife. I always need it yet she never does!
  • CmdrAtticusCmdrAtticus United StatesPosts: 1,102MI6 Agent
    CoolHandBond wrote:
    Complete wimp here, I need anaesthetic for dental treatment - I hate pain and could never have the snip either :))

    Like TP I had a local anaesthetic in hospital to remove two wisdom teeth and never felt a thing - could not imagine going through that ordeal without it - reminds me of the movie Marathon Man - I have a bottle of oil of cloves in the medicine cabinet in case of toothache - but can imagine Stag gritting his teeth and telling Laurence Olivier where to get off :))

    Next to the CR torture scene, that one with Olivier was for me another one of the most cringe worthy in cinema!
  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,638MI6 Agent
    I've always had an anaesthetic at the dentist so I have no idea how I'd fair without one. I did once break my finger in two places and didn't let on to anyone around me as I didn't want to make a scene. It was bloody painful and I suspect my face changed colour, but no one ever knew until I told them weeks later.

    Has anyone ever created a test to determine someone's pain threshold? I mean, one of the most painful experiences for a man is a kick in the old specials, but there's no way of properly explaining what that feels like to anyone who's never actually experienced it. You can try to describe it, but nothing really does it justice. Likewise, for women the ultimate seems to be childbirth, but I simply can't imagine what that feels like.

    Maybe we should create a test that involves seeing how many inane AJB contributions someone can read before they run away from the computer screaming.
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    The Domino Effect wrote:
    Maybe we should create a test that involves seeing how many inane AJB contributions someone can read before they run away from the computer screaming.

    :)) :)) :))

    Pain tolerance increases through repeated exposure. I've been practicing ju-jitsu for the past eight years and my pain tolerance (including whacks to the Crown Jewels on a number if occasions) has definitely increased, and one of our group, who's now a qualified chiropractor, wrote his thesis on it and conducted a number of tests on the subject.

    So I guess Bond's higher tolerance could be both natural and learned, as it were.
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  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,638MI6 Agent
    Charmed & Dangerous wrote:


    Pain tolerance increases through repeated exposure.

    So I guess what you're saying is that anyone with more than 1,000 posts on this forum would do well in any AJB pain threshold test? :D
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Charmed & Dangerous wrote:
    Pain tolerance increases through repeated exposure. I've been practicing ju-jitsu for the past eight years and my pain tolerance (including whacks to the Crown Jewels on a number if occasions) has definitely increased
    In my many Karate & Gung Fu classes we would do drills to intentionally feel a generous amount of pain because pain in a confrontation will surprise & distract you if you aren't prepared for, or are familiar with it.
    You need a "so what?" attitude with pain to be a secret agent... :v
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  • IanTIanT Posts: 573MI6 Agent
    The Domino Effect wrote:
    I did once break my finger in two places

    Well perhaps you shouldn't go to those two places and your finger will be fine... :))
  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,638MI6 Agent
    IanT wrote:
    The Domino Effect wrote:
    I did once break my finger in two places

    Well perhaps you shouldn't go to those two places and your finger will be fine... :))

    Awesome advice! And they said you were just a pretty face! :D
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I had a mate die from getting shot in the finger ........ he was picking his nose
    at the time. :# I'm here till thursday, try the veal.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    IanT wrote:
    The Domino Effect wrote:
    I did once break my finger in two places

    Well perhaps you shouldn't go to those two places and your finger will be fine... :))
    :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,863Chief of Staff
    Seconded!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,863Chief of Staff
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    I'm here till thursday, try the veal.

    I will, next time I feel like a wee calf.....

    (only works in a Scottish accent)
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