Locking threads: a very bad idea

cheldcheld Posts: 300MI6 Agent
in Site Help Suggestions & Announcements
The "EU in or out" thread was recently locked because one rather active member made repeated posts insulting another member. The thread lock is not fair to the members who were neither the "insulter" nor the "insultee". Arguably the policy of thread locking is open to abuse, as any member who didn't want a certain topic discussed could make sufficient provocative posts to force a thread lock. Better to single out the offending member and lock that individual out of a thread, no?
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  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,906Chief of Staff
    I understand and appreciate your point, but sometimes closing a thread is done to allow things to "cool down" a bit. Removing an "offending" member from an already hot topic is often adding fuel to the fire. It's often best to close it down, wait a while, and then get back to it.
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited April 2016
    Obviously the OP is speaking about myself.

    I can't check, but don't recall having insulted anybody there.
    Just because someone feels having been insulted - doesn't mean that that's the case.

    It was a political disagreement - I had no motive to have the thread locked down because I wanted everybody to see the opposing opinions and make a qualified choice. Implying that I insult others to get topics removed by purpose.... Well 8-)

    [Edit by Barbel]
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,856Chief of Staff
    cheld wrote:
    Locking threads: a very bad idea

    Not in all circumstances. In this case, several warnings were given by both Sir Miles and myself that this might happen.
    cheld wrote:
    Better to single out the offending member and lock that individual out of a thread, no?

    Not in all circumstances as Hardyboy said above.



    Higgins, please keep PMs private- that's what they are there for. I've deleted your last line for this reason.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited April 2016
    imo the thread would still be open if the "he insulted me card" wouldn't have been played - for no reason may I add.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:


    Higgins, please keep PMs private- that's what they are there for. I've deleted your last line for this reason.

    too bad as it demonstrated well the real nature of the persons that are getting easily "offended" here :#
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    cheld wrote:
    The "EU in or out" thread was recently locked because one rather active member made repeated posts insulting another member. The thread lock is not fair to the members who were neither the "insulter" nor the "insultee". Arguably the policy of thread locking is open to abuse, as any member who didn't want a certain topic discussed could make sufficient provocative posts to force a thread lock. Better to single out the offending member and lock that individual out of a thread, no?

    It really wasn't as simple as you make out - and those aren't the facts either...

    The rest has been very ably explained by Barbel -{
    YNWA 97
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    I can't see a positive or political reason behind the aluminium hats remark....which was levelled at more than one member, whilst not overly offensive it does conjure up a non too pleasant image.
    IMG_20160429_103301.jpg
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Not the way I wear mine, I go for the Viking two horn look. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited April 2016
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I can't see a positive or political reason behind the aluminium hats remark....which was levelled at more than one member, whilst not overly offensive it does conjure up a non too pleasant image.

    One should never explain a joke, but it was meant as a metaphor and was not directed to more than one person ;%
    Chriscoop wrote:
    whilst not overly offensive

    This! - so what's the fuzz all about?

    First world problems - I know, I am being "provocative" again 8-)
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I can't see a positive or political reason behind the aluminium hats remark....which was levelled at more than one member, whilst not overly offensive it does conjure up a non too pleasant image.

    One should never explain a joke, but it was meant as a metaphor and was not directed to more than one person ;%
    Chriscoop wrote:
    whilst not overly offensive

    This! - so what's the fuzz all about?
    And because of that, suggesting to have me "removed"? :)) :)) :))
    I've never suggested anyone be removed, and I've never complained at being offended either. Certainly this comment is not what all the fuss about, I just used it as an obvious reference as it had no basis in a political debate.
    I may be wrong but you used your "anyone for aluminium hats" comment was posted as a reply on a post quoting at least 3 other members previous posts.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited April 2016
    I was referring to the initial post which suggests to have me "Singled out" and "locked" ;)

    I can't check the thread anymore, but the wording was as far as I recall: "Aluminium hats, anyone?"
    I don't recall quoting 3 members , but it may be possible. Not sure if the quotation of the 3 members was in direct context with the hat remark, as far as I recall, it was directed to one member - as it was some posts earlier ;)
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    I was referring to the initial post which suggests to have me "Singled out" and "locked" ;)

    I can't check the thread anymore, but the wording was as far as I recall: "Aluminium hats, anyone?"
    I don't recall quoting 3 members , but it may be possible. Not sure if the quotation of the 3 members was in direct context with the hat remark, as far as I recall, it was directed to one member - as it was some posts earlier ;)
    Aluminium hats anyone or anyone for aluminium hats..... Splitting hairs, the owness being on hats plural meaning more than one hat, therefore not directed at one person at all.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I imagine this is what happens at AJB top secret Headquarters ( Off the High street, behind TESCO )

    Two mods, remove the keys from around their necks, looking solemnly at each other,from
    Opposing desks as they Count down ... " Three, two, one Turn" ........ Thread Locked ! :D

    Honestly guys, if we can all shake hands put it down to a misunderstanding and in the words
    Of that wise young woman Taylor Swift and " Shake it off" ? :)
    I'm dancing in my pants to it right now ! :p
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    I imagine this is what happens at AJB top secret Headquarters ( Off the High street, behind TESCO )

    Two mods, remove the keys from around their necks, looking solemnly at each other,from
    Opposing desks as they Count down ... " Three, two, one Turn" ........ Thread Locked ! :D

    Honestly guys, if we can all shake hands put it down to a misunderstanding and in the words
    Of that wise young woman Taylor Swift and " Shake it off" ? :)
    I'm dancing in my pants to it right now ! :p
    And the mental image you've just given me should mean this thread is locked down and your last post erased for ever.........and ever :D
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,856Chief of Staff
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    Honestly guys, if we can all shake hands put it down to a misunderstanding and in the words
    Of that wise young woman Taylor Swift and " Shake it off" ? :)

    Seconded. Thank you, TP.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    I'm dancing in my pants to it right now ! :p

    With an aluminium... :#

    I'll grab my coat.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,856Chief of Staff
    Good move.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Quite honestly though I have no ill feeling towards anyone and actually said the Mods (or barbs and miley as I like to call them) did the right thing. Its a Bond forum after all, not a ukip conference. And to be honest I think Thunderpussy is to blame for starting all this among with his diabolical Norwegian sidekick number 24 for re opening old wounds! :)
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Anything in my pants is Solid Steel ! :D

    ( It's a little unicorn pin )
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I wondered how long before I got the blame ! Do I push the boundaries ? Yes !
    Are My Threads Thought Provoking ?...... Yes !
    Do I look good in a leopard skin thong ? ..... Yes !
    ( I still never sold that guitar ) ....... Anyone remember that photo ? :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    I wondered how long before I got the blame ! Do I push the boundaries ? Yes !
    Are My Threads Thought Provoking ?...... Yes !
    Do I look good in a leopard skin thong ? ..... Yes !
    ( I still never sold that guitar ) ....... Anyone remember that photo ? :))
    I now have an image of liz macdonald in a lap dancing bar! :o
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,856Chief of Staff
    Chriscoop wrote:
    the Mods (or barbs and miley as I like to call them)

    :)) :)) :)) very good! Babs and Mikey, we wish!


    Actually, it's more like
    AA_OLD_MAN.jpg
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    the Mods (or barbs and miley as I like to call them)

    :)) :)) :)) very good! Babs and Mikey, we wish!


    Actually, it's more like
    AA_OLD_MAN.jpg
    But who is who? I'm guessing miley is Patrick the starfish
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    the Mods (or barbs and miley as I like to call them)

    :)) :)) :)) very good! Babs and Mikey, we wish!


    Actually, it's more like
    AA_OLD_MAN.jpg
    But who is who? I'm guessing miley is Patrick the starfish

    Correct first time ! I'm just not as clever -{
    YNWA 97
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Come now Sir Miles, I was of the opinion Mods were hand picked from the most very elite human beings on the planet :)
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Come now Sir Miles, I was of the opinion Mods were hand picked from the most very elite human beings on the planet :)

    :))
    YNWA 97
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,856Chief of Staff
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    the Mods (or barbs and miley as I like to call them)

    :)) :)) :)) very good! Babs and Mikey, we wish!


    Actually, it's more like
    AA_OLD_MAN.jpg
    But who is who? I'm guessing miley is Patrick the starfish

    In musical terms, I'm not either- I have to be a
    AA_OLD_MAN.jpg

    Bass!
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    The ace of bass?
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    He's a Sole man ! But his hearts in the right Plaice,he plays a good Tuna, or am I
    talking Pollocks ! :#
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    He's a Sole man ! But his hearts in the right Plaice,he plays a good Tuna, or am I
    talking Pollocks ! :#
    That's all just a red Herring
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
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