One short scene in fifty en years, without a ski in sight and even in the wrong country?
How is that enough???? X-( X-(
(I'm only pretending to be angry . )
I don't really care about snow, quite like the stuff. Pretty sure it's more than one scene in 50 years (must do the math sometime) The other stuff I'm dead serious about. Although never say never and all that as it all depends on how things are done. I'm compiling a list. :007)
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
The only time Craig's Bond has been seen in the snow is briefly in Kazan and of course Austria. I wouldn't mind having the character in snow again for Bond 25 if it was a great location. I just hope they don't go back to Italy for awhile.
Once again I blame Autocorrect. It was origionally "fifteen years". The last ski scene was back in TWINE, and the last good one (in spite of the pretend Beach Boys) was back in AVTAK. That's hardy enough.
The snow scenes in SPECTRE were good, but I wrote "ski scenes".
I agree the ski scenes in OHMSS are the gold standard :007)
They are indeed the benchmark. I think a lot depends upon whether the actor can Ski or not. Not to championship standard of course but one of the things that let TWINE down was that Brozzer could barely stand up on them so those funny little devices were used and a lot of stunt doubles. I think we now since Cruise and Craig we have grown used to the actor at least being plausible. Lazenby was I belive a competent Skier and I think it was a contributory factor, that and superb cinematography and amazing stunt skiers. I think films can get away this this for some things, for example it did not detract from the fantastic dive in GE that I knew it was not Pierce. The difference may be that there was no need for reaction shots.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
The snow scenes in SPECTRE were good, but I wrote "ski scenes".
I agree the ski scenes in OHMSS are the gold standard :007)
They are indeed the benchmark. I think a lot depends upon whether the actor can Ski or not. Not to championship standard of course but one of the things that let TWINE down was that Brozzer could barely stand up on them so those funny little devices were used and a lot of stunt doubles. I think we now since Cruise and Craig we have grown used to the actor at least being plausible. Lazenby was I belive a competent Skier and I think it was a contributory factor, that and superb cinematography and amazing stunt skiers. I think films can get away this this for some things, for example it did not detract from the fantastic dive in GE that I knew it was not Pierce. The difference may be that there was no need for reaction shots.
Your point is well taken-I believe Laz might have even skiied competitively before becoming Bond, although I’m still not sure much of what we see is actually him. I don’t believe Daniel is a skier and I think that factored into why we didn’t see him skiing in Spectre despite the fact that the location and Bond history clearly called for it. That scene with the plane was a disappointment in every regard.
I think the scene in SPECTRE was originally intended to be a ski scene, but Craig didn't want to ski so it was changed. That's what I think I read, anyway.
A friend of mine actually saw the filming of the ski scene in TWINE, or at least a part of it. I understand he watched from a distance, so it might be stunt double he saw.
I believe Roger Moore wasn't a skier when he started out as Bond, but because of Bond he learnt it and started enjoying it. A bit like Connery and golf. I think Moore's skiing instructor was Norwegian (?) and he became a competent skier.of course Moore spent a lot of time in Switzerland and was able to ski on hus free time.
The snow scenes in SPECTRE were good, but I wrote "ski scenes".
I agree the ski scenes in OHMSS are the gold standard :007)
They are indeed the benchmark. I think a lot depends upon whether the actor can Ski or not. Not to championship standard of course but one of the things that let TWINE down was that Brozzer could barely stand up on them so those funny little devices were used and a lot of stunt doubles. I think we now since Cruise and Craig we have grown used to the actor at least being plausible. Lazenby was I belive a competent Skier and I think it was a contributory factor, that and superb cinematography and amazing stunt skiers. I think films can get away this this for some things, for example it did not detract from the fantastic dive in GE that I knew it was not Pierce. The difference may be that there was no need for reaction shots.
Your point is well taken-I believe Laz might have even skiied competitively before becoming Bond, although I’m still not sure much of what we see is actually him. I don’t believe Daniel is a skier and I think that factored into why we didn’t see him skiing in Spectre despite the fact that the location and Bond history clearly called for it. That scene with the plane was a disappointment in every regard.
It was and is a large part of why I am in no rush to see another. Daniel is a canny actor and I wonder if this played into his not wanting to do a ski scene? His Bond is built upon credibility.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
I think the scene in SPECTRE was originally intended to be a ski scene, but Craig didn't want to ski so it was changed. That's what I think I read, anyway.
I think the scene in SPECTRE was originally intended to be a ski scene, but Craig didn't want to ski so it was changed. That's what I think I read, anyway.
And from the looks of pre-pro art it was a lot more elaborate (or at least physical).
Wow! That would have been incredible.Finding myself eating my own words and wishing he had agreed to it. Let's hope the next chap is a Skier and it can be included.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
Boyle film crew are back for 'pick up' shots. They will be back in July for the final stint (a Beach gig with 5000 extras)
I'll do my best to speak with him again but I doubt if I will find out much more. My objective will be to continue lobbying (less of that, more of this, no to Helicopters, yes to Tradecraft, no more snow, no back story or personal angle of any kind...)
With luck I may get a proper introduction this time rather than almost knocking the poor chap over.
Tell him we need Shirley Bassey to do the theme tune.
Looks great!... I'd welcome some of this in '25' esp. as a contrast to some hotter/exotic locations [although cold can be exotic too ] The more locations the better as far as I'm concerned..... I'm hoping to see Devon feature as well, as I live there... I mean the English Riviera and all that is the perfect location!... he could even indulge in a Cream Tea or two )
Boyle film crew are back for 'pick up' shots. They will be back in July for the final stint (a Beach gig with 5000 extras)
I'll do my best to speak with him again but I doubt if I will find out much more. My objective will be to continue lobbying (less of that, more of this, no to Helicopters, yes to Tradecraft, no more snow, no back story or personal angle of any kind...)
With luck I may get a proper introduction this time rather than almost knocking the poor chap over.
Tell him we need Shirley Bassey to do the theme tune.
Love ms. Bassy, made the Pilgrimage many times, but no, not right for now in my view, Bond should be forward facing.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
Agreed. Most of the time when they try to pay homage to the past they end up stepping in it. The best Bond films tend to be the ones that blaze their own trail.
30 days until the anniversary of Marc Forster being officially announced as Quantum of Solace director on 20 June 2007. I say this only because six months before production is the latest announcement of a Bond director; as far as I can find.
I guess I’m a fan that doesn’t need an announcement as long as he’s working on it. If they want to go until December when the traditional press conference is held announcing everything at once, fine with me. A lack of announcement doesn’t mean nothing is happening and I am owed nothing except what I pay my ticket for.
Agreed. Most of the time when they try to pay homage to the past they end up stepping in it. The best Bond films tend to be the ones that blaze their own trail.
Agreed. Most of the time when they try to pay homage to the past they end up stepping in it. The best Bond films tend to be the ones that blaze their own trail.
The best way to pay homage to the classic Bond films is to make another great classic Bond film.
Absolutely agree with both of you guys.
I will say we are a fickle bunch. When we got "new and fresh" many pined away for a return to "classic Bond". When we got more "classic Bond".. ...that maybe that wasn't so good we want "new and fresh". "New and fresh", "classic", a bit of both....doesn't really matter IMO. Comes down to the execution. Say what you will about how the car chase was edited in QOS....it was exciting when compared to that snoozefest of a car chase in SPECTRE. We just need a good Bond film that can stand on its own merits.
which is the "classic Bond" film you think we got? are you talking about SPECTRE? I'm sure it takes more than remembering to put the gunbarrel in the right place.
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Enough already (for a while at least)
How is that enough???? X-( X-(
(I'm only pretending to be angry
I don't really care about snow, quite like the stuff. Pretty sure it's more than one scene in 50 years (must do the math sometime) The other stuff I'm dead serious about. Although never say never and all that as it all depends on how things are done. I'm compiling a list. :007)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=hJGk5m89e90
I agree the ski scenes in OHMSS are the gold standard :007)
They are indeed the benchmark. I think a lot depends upon whether the actor can Ski or not. Not to championship standard of course but one of the things that let TWINE down was that Brozzer could barely stand up on them so those funny little devices were used and a lot of stunt doubles. I think we now since Cruise and Craig we have grown used to the actor at least being plausible. Lazenby was I belive a competent Skier and I think it was a contributory factor, that and superb cinematography and amazing stunt skiers. I think films can get away this this for some things, for example it did not detract from the fantastic dive in GE that I knew it was not Pierce. The difference may be that there was no need for reaction shots.
Your point is well taken-I believe Laz might have even skiied competitively before becoming Bond, although I’m still not sure much of what we see is actually him. I don’t believe Daniel is a skier and I think that factored into why we didn’t see him skiing in Spectre despite the fact that the location and Bond history clearly called for it. That scene with the plane was a disappointment in every regard.
A friend of mine actually saw the filming of the ski scene in TWINE, or at least a part of it. I understand he watched from a distance, so it might be stunt double he saw.
It was and is a large part of why I am in no rush to see another. Daniel is a canny actor and I wonder if this played into his not wanting to do a ski scene? His Bond is built upon credibility.
It was described as "parkour on skis", which could have been a lot of fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgNYgzBsmXE
And from the looks of pre-pro art it was a lot more elaborate (or at least physical).
Wow! That would have been incredible.Finding myself eating my own words and wishing he had agreed to it. Let's hope the next chap is a Skier and it can be included.
Tell him we need Shirley Bassey to do the theme tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBbhZRKxp7M
Looks great!... I'd welcome some of this in '25' esp. as a contrast to some hotter/exotic locations [although cold can be exotic too
Love ms. Bassy, made the Pilgrimage many times, but no, not right for now in my view, Bond should be forward facing.
When will Boyle be officially announced?
I will say we are a fickle bunch. When we got "new and fresh" many pined away for a return to "classic Bond". When we got more "classic Bond".. ...that maybe that wasn't so good we want "new and fresh". "New and fresh", "classic", a bit of both....doesn't really matter IMO. Comes down to the execution. Say what you will about how the car chase was edited in QOS....it was exciting when compared to that snoozefest of a car chase in SPECTRE. We just need a good Bond film that can stand on its own merits.