I do wish Eon could be snapped out of their P&W trance
I quite agree, their best work has been the screenplay of Casino Royale, and as that stuck quite close to the original they didn't have too much scope to **** it up. I was hoping the rumour about Logan was true. Let's just hope they've discovered a way to fill in those giant potholes!
I suspect that a number of us here feel the same way...
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I've wanted to watch "71'" since it came out. But the director has only that low-budget movie plus a movie waiting to come out on his CV. How will he handle a huge production like Bond? Directing Bond movies isn't "Just" knowing how to shoot a good movie, you have to be good at management and logistics too. Perhaps Yann Demange can make a good Bond in ten years, but I fear it would overwhelm him today.
True, but look at someone like Colin Trevorrow who only had the low budget "Safety Not Guaranteed" on his CV before getting Jurassic World (and then Star Wars). I think the team around him (esp BB and MGW) do a lot of the heavy lifting on a film like this.
I think Denis Villenueve has a very good shot, as he worked on Blade Runner with Roger Deakins and Dennis Gassner...
I've wanted to watch "71'" since it came out. But the director has only that low-budget movie plus a movie waiting to come out on his CV. How will he handle a huge production like Bond? Directing Bond movies isn't "Just" knowing how to shoot a good movie, you have to be good at management and logistics too. Perhaps Yann Demange can make a good Bond in ten years, but I fear it would overwhelm him today.
But the team at EON does....in spades. Shooting a Bond film is not an "auteur" project. Bond, even with Mendes onboard has always been a collaborative effort and "producer's films". In some ways Bond in particular is probably a better situation for a young director in that there is so much already in place and so many experienced hands to lean on. Certainly EON these days puts more stock in the vision and style of the director they choose but it's not like Martin Campbell came to EON with the idea of a re-boot. They chose Campbell because they needed a certain type of director to be part of the stewardship of the re-boot. Just my two cents.
I've wanted to watch "71'" since it came out. But the director has only that low-budget movie plus a movie waiting to come out on his CV. How will he handle a huge production like Bond? Directing Bond movies isn't "Just" knowing how to shoot a good movie, you have to be good at management and logistics too. Perhaps Yann Demange can make a good Bond in ten years, but I fear it would overwhelm him today.
True, but look at someone like Colin Trevorrow who only had the low budget "Safety Not Guaranteed" on his CV before getting Jurassic World (and then Star Wars). I think the team around him (esp BB and MGW) do a lot of the heavy lifting on a film like this.
I think Denis Villenueve has a very good shot, as he worked on Blade Runner with Roger Deakins and Dennis Gassner...
Yeah, not the greatest example. His film Book of Henry was apparently all-time abysmal, and there's rumors he's getting yanked from ep 9.
I actually saw 71' tonight. I visited a friend who has Netflix and he let me chose the movie. It's a brilliant thriller. Top story, acting, photographed etc. I highly reccomend it -{
Yeah, not the greatest example. His film Book of Henry was apparently all-time abysmal, and there's rumors he's getting yanked from ep 9.
I certainly didn't say Treverrow was a director that would continue churning out hits, just that someone with only a low budget film on his CV could indeed competently make a large scale film...
Yeah, not the greatest example. His film Book of Henry was apparently all-time abysmal, and there's rumors he's getting yanked from ep 9.
I certainly didn't say Treverrow was a director that would continue churning out hits, just that someone with only a low budget film on his CV could indeed competently make a large scale film...
Yeah, I question that too. Unless you're pining for a Bond film on the empty level of Jurassic World.
To undermine my own words in post #179, I think we can use Patty Jenkins as a positive example. Priviously she was best known for the drama "Monster". In spite of having the superb Charlize Theron playing the main role, it had a modest budget. Then she landed the directing job for Wonder Woman, one of the most sucessful action adventure movies this year. It was highly successful both at the box office and critically. So a director like Yann Demange can make a good Bond movie, but it may be more of a gamble than hiring an experienced big-budget director.
Some of the directors who do "big budget" films are nothing special...just hacks with a lot of money to spend or journeymen who are able to go along to get along with big ego'ed stars and their vanity projects.
Just an aside, you want to shoot back to back Bonds? Get Clint Eastwood to direct: the guy is always on schedule, never goes over budget, never needs multiple takes to get what he wants and actors love working with him.
A splendid idea. You can put Silva, LeChiffre, Vesper, M (Dench), White, Greene in one room with Bond and have them a discussion about life and death and stupid soap opera plots in Bond films.
Would certainly be more entertaining than Skyfall is )
Yeah, I question that too. Unless you're pining for a Bond film on the empty level of Jurassic World.
Again, I am only saying that studios have indeed trusted newcomers to helm big productions, not that he would necessarily do a quality job with it. You wouldn't be able to guarantee that with even a seasoned director. I mean for my comments to only be in reference to the production side of things, not the creative side.
I would think the logistics of running a big production would be more in the hands of the producers and others. Ever take a look at the end crawl of a film these days, an unbelievable amount of people involved in all manner of tasks. Bottom line is, EON will vet different directors (there will be no shortage of directors interested as Bond has now rose to a higher level) and pick who they believe is most suitable.
I read somewhere trivia facts about Christopher Nolan on IMDB. The first one is that he refuses to use second units on his movies, since he directs everything himself. What was the last time a a Bond movie was directed just by one man?
The other interesting fact is that he's a big fan of the band Radiohead. Since the band has already written at least one Bond song (but didn't get the job), I'm say their chances are good if Nolan ever gets to direct Bond.
I didn't like it either. But I bought the CD Honeymoon by Lana del Rey today, and I think she would be perfect. I just checked the first three (plus three more) Bond movies on IMDB, and all have at least two assistent directors or second unit directors.
Then I thought of checking for assistant directors on Dunkirk and found no less than 25 (!) listed. But it turned out most were Crowd Assistanse Directors and the like. But one second unit director was mentioned. My head hurts from the thinking.....
oh cool! Honeymoon is perfect! My favourite songs are: God Knows I Tried / Art Deco / Salvatore / The Blackest Day
I follow her religiously, one of the few artists of today I really like. Lana would be perfect, but her song 24 who seems to have been her go at Bond really is sub-par considering what unbelievably great songs she's already released.
If you find it on youtube or you have Spotify or Apple Music check out her song "Million Dollar Man" not only one of her best songs but THAT is a fantastic Bond song!
As for directors, Tim Burton would be a fantastic plot twist! Danny Elfman would be great.
I've only listened to Honeymoon twice so far, and my favourite is The Blackest Day.
Tim Burton always makes interesting movies and I make a point of watching them. Still, I think he would be wrong for Bond. Not just because he's American and I think they should continue the tradition of using British directors (with a couple of exceptions) but because Burton's style is wrong for James Bond.
Same thing goes for Elfman. He like what he does, but I don't think his style is right for Bond.
An angle I hadn't heard before - of course it could be utter rubbish...and it's an easy tale to tell, because it won't ever be proven or disproven (unlike most Bond rumours).
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I thought the Radiohead song was brilliant! Best since TWINE! But I hate most songs everyone else loves and I listen to music differently from most people.
An angle I hadn't heard before - of course it could be utter rubbish...and it's an easy tale to tell, because it won't ever be proven or disproven (unlike most Bond rumours).
More tabloid nonsense 8-)
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An angle I hadn't heard before - of course it could be utter rubbish...and it's an easy tale to tell, because it won't ever be proven or disproven (unlike most Bond rumours).
More tabloid nonsense 8-)
Of course. But as I said - at least it's new garbage Roll on September (or whenever) -{
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At the very least, it appears that Mendes won't be back. And I'm pleased by that. Time for fresh eyes.
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I suspect that a number of us here feel the same way...
True, but look at someone like Colin Trevorrow who only had the low budget "Safety Not Guaranteed" on his CV before getting Jurassic World (and then Star Wars). I think the team around him (esp BB and MGW) do a lot of the heavy lifting on a film like this.
I think Denis Villenueve has a very good shot, as he worked on Blade Runner with Roger Deakins and Dennis Gassner...
But the team at EON does....in spades. Shooting a Bond film is not an "auteur" project. Bond, even with Mendes onboard has always been a collaborative effort and "producer's films". In some ways Bond in particular is probably a better situation for a young director in that there is so much already in place and so many experienced hands to lean on. Certainly EON these days puts more stock in the vision and style of the director they choose but it's not like Martin Campbell came to EON with the idea of a re-boot. They chose Campbell because they needed a certain type of director to be part of the stewardship of the re-boot. Just my two cents.
Yeah, not the greatest example. His film Book of Henry was apparently all-time abysmal, and there's rumors he's getting yanked from ep 9.
I certainly didn't say Treverrow was a director that would continue churning out hits, just that someone with only a low budget film on his CV could indeed competently make a large scale film...
Yeah, I question that too. Unless you're pining for a Bond film on the empty level of Jurassic World.
Just an aside, you want to shoot back to back Bonds? Get Clint Eastwood to direct: the guy is always on schedule, never goes over budget, never needs multiple takes to get what he wants and actors love working with him.
I want Alfonso Cuarón.
A splendid idea. You can put Silva, LeChiffre, Vesper, M (Dench), White, Greene in one room with Bond and have them a discussion about life and death and stupid soap opera plots in Bond films.
Would certainly be more entertaining than Skyfall is
Again, I am only saying that studios have indeed trusted newcomers to helm big productions, not that he would necessarily do a quality job with it. You wouldn't be able to guarantee that with even a seasoned director. I mean for my comments to only be in reference to the production side of things, not the creative side.
The other interesting fact is that he's a big fan of the band Radiohead. Since the band has already written at least one Bond song (but didn't get the job), I'm say their chances are good if Nolan ever gets to direct Bond.
I follow her religiously, one of the few artists of today I really like. Lana would be perfect, but her song 24 who seems to have been her go at Bond really is sub-par considering what unbelievably great songs she's already released.
If you find it on youtube or you have Spotify or Apple Music check out her song "Million Dollar Man" not only one of her best songs but THAT is a fantastic Bond song!
As for directors, Tim Burton would be a fantastic plot twist! Danny Elfman would be great.
Tim Burton always makes interesting movies and I make a point of watching them. Still, I think he would be wrong for Bond. Not just because he's American and I think they should continue the tradition of using British directors (with a couple of exceptions) but because Burton's style is wrong for James Bond.
Same thing goes for Elfman. He like what he does, but I don't think his style is right for Bond.
Its Ace!
An angle I hadn't heard before - of course it could be utter rubbish...and it's an easy tale to tell, because it won't ever be proven or disproven (unlike most Bond rumours).
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
More tabloid nonsense 8-)
Of course. But as I said - at least it's new garbage
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM