What's the best Bond film that's not based on a Fleming book?

Revolver66Revolver66 Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 470MI6 Agent
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I was thinking about my favourite Bond films (as so many Bond maniacs always do :)) and it occurred to me that the majority of my favourite films in the series are based, at least in part, upon a Fleming story. Sure, some of them deviate from the original story (Goldfinger, Casino Royale) but all in all I think that the majority of the best films contain story elements and characters from the Fleming novels. This led to me think about the best film(s) not based upon a Fleming story. Off the top of my head I would say that the one which sticks out for me is The Spy Who Loved Me.

Anyone have any thoughts on the best non-Fleming Bond film?

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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    My favourite non-Fleming Bond film is YOLT. There are elements from Fleming's story in the film, but it's 95% an original story.
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Skyfall, though its influenced by some material from Flemings novels I think the film as a whole captures a lot of the spirit of the novels without having been one.
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  • WadsyWadsy Auckland, New ZealandPosts: 412MI6 Agent
    That hasn't been adapted yet in any way whatsoever? Then Licence To Kill.
    1. FYEO 2. OHMSS 3. LTK 4. FRWL 5. TLD 6. TSWLM 7. AVTAK 8. GF 9. MR 10. TB 11. OP 12. SF 13. DN 14. SP 15. LALD 16. GE 17. CR 18. YOLT 19. TWINE 20. TMWTGG 21. NTTD 22. TND 23. QOS 24. NSNA 25. DAD 26. DAF 27. CR '67

    1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Lazenby 5. Craig 6. Brosnan
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Wadsy wrote:
    That hasn't been adapted yet in any way whatsoever? Then Licence To Kill.

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    The shark attack on Felix Leiter in LTK is out of Fleming.
  • Revolver66Revolver66 Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 470MI6 Agent
    walther p99 wrote:
    Skyfall, though its influenced by some material from Flemings novels I think the film as a whole captures a lot of the spirit of the novels without having been one.


    Great Call. I love Skyfall. It would be a toss up between Spy and Skyfall for me. The honourable mentions would be You Only Live Twice and Goldeneye, which are both great.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,865Chief of Staff
    These earlier threads cover similar territory:

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/45987/fleming-in-the-brosnan-films/

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/44862/the-bond-movie-discussion-for-fans-of-the-fleming-novels-also-thread/

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/46127/if-fleming-came-back-to-life-for-3-hours-and-you-can-show-him-1-movie/
  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,421Quartermasters
    For me it is between SkyFall and GoldenEye, and the choice would depend a lot on mood.
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    A lot of movies contain at least some elements of a Fleming novel; LTK for instance might not be a Fleming title but does have a few plot points from other novels.

    So although this is a murky area, my favourite non-Fleming-story-movie would be either TSWLM or GE.
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    You are all wrong! It's Moonraker! :D

    That said, how about we list the films that have the least Fleming in them? Brosnan must factor in highly. Tomorrow Never Dies surely is the first to have almost zero Fleming in it? Not even a title or a sub plot or a scene.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Possibly Goldeneye ... ?
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,865Chief of Staff
    Napoleon Plural wrote:

    That said, how about we list the films that have the least Fleming in them?

    Earlier discussion on that topic here:
    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/44840/how-faithful-is-each-bond-film-to-the-source-material/
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Is Barbel trying to give us a hint? I don't know, 'cause I'm not very good at that stuff.
    If so, what is it he wants?
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    When Barbel creeps into bed with his wife, it's 'Yeah yeah but we did that two years ago, remember?" :D :))
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  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    Napoleon Plural wrote:
    When Barbel creeps into bed with his wife, it's 'Yeah yeah but we did that two years ago, remember?" :D :))

    Ah well, that's better than if his wife would say: "Just use the search function dear"
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,865Chief of Staff
    :)) :)) :))

    Just thought it might be of interest (unlike my sex life, guys, I'm OLD!) since it covers much the same ground as NP suggested.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    What, you and your wife getting it on two years ago? :o :D
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    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,865Chief of Staff
    Oh yeah, of course! :D
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    So Barbel's hints were about sex???
    I would never had guessed, but hints isn't my strong suit.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,865Chief of Staff
    :s
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    What I want to know is, what bits of Barbel's sex life are not based on Fleming? :))

    Back on topic, YOLT, TSWLM, GE and Skyfall are the ones I enjoyed the most as films, but none of them are as enjoyable as those which are based on Fleming, such as Thunderball, OHMSS, FRWL, Dr No, Goldfinger etc.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,865Chief of Staff
    Charmed & Dangerous wrote:
    What I want to know is, what bits of Barbel's sex life are not based on Fleming? :))
    .

    Sorry old man- Section 26, paragraph 5. Need-to-know. Sure you understand.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    My sex life is based on a Bond film LTK, ..... As it's come to a dead end ! :D
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  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    My sex life is based on a Bond film LTK, ..... As it's come to a dead end ! :D
    My one is based off George Lazenby's second Bond Film.
    “The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
    -Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Mine is based on the early scenes of Die Another Day - nine months without a shag.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    Or AVTAK, I'm getting too old for this sh*t
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
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