WHAT? It's huge! I mean really huge, Bond would need a suitcase on wheels to carry and conceal it. the ammo costs a fortune, and it's unreliable unless you find an original irsraeli made one....... No no no let lara Croft keep the desert eagle.
WHAT? It's huge! I mean really huge, Bond would need a suitcase on wheels to carry and conceal it. the ammo costs a fortune, and it's unreliable unless you find an original irsraeli made one....... No no no let lara Croft keep the desert eagle.
I was expecting this sort of response.
:v
Utterly pointless...but so is having a giant laser gun.
Why wouldn't a Bond villain have one?
(No, not Goldmember)
a reasonable rate of return
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@ Bond 44 is right, in CR Bond takes and uses a Browning Hi Power Mark III from the Ambassador at the embassy and uses during his attempt to bring in Mollaka the bomb maker.
LOL... I meant to say it was the standard pistol side-arm at the time and had more going for it than the Walther PPK in the field.
Certainly not a good undercover carry weapon, but better than carrying a brick, huh ?
Hi power was a venerable and relatively trouble free side arm for much of the British army before it was demobbed in favour of the Glock, which I've never really been a fan of. There's been a few times bond could have been armed with the Hi power, the pts of Goldeneye, or living Daylights when Bond goes for whitaker.
LOL... I meant to say it was the standard pistol side-arm at the time and had more going for it than the Walther PPK in the field.
Certainly not a good undercover carry weapon, but better than carrying a brick, huh ?
Hi power was a venerable and relatively trouble free side arm for much of the British army before it was demobbed in favour of the Glock, which I've never really been a fan of. There's been a few times bond could have been armed with the Hi power, the pts of Goldeneye, or living Daylights when Bond goes for whitaker.
In Goldeneye Trevelyan uses a Browing variant in the communication centre when he captures Bond again
Used Browning HP for years without a problem but time and tech moved on its called progress
Cheers :007)
My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
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@ Bond 44 correct Trevelyan uses a Browning BDM during the films climax, this pistol also appears in the teaser sequence where it replaces the BDA Trevelyan was using in some shots (This is a mistake, as the BDM was not made in until the 1990's and the teaser scene takes place in 1986).
LOL... I meant to say it was the standard pistol side-arm at the time and had more going for it than the Walther PPK in the field.
Certainly not a good undercover carry weapon, but better than carrying a brick, huh ?
Hi power was a venerable and relatively trouble free side arm for much of the British army before it was demobbed in favour of the Glock, which I've never really been a fan of. There's been a few times bond could have been armed with the Hi power, the pts of Goldeneye, or living Daylights when Bond goes for whitaker.
In Goldeneye Trevelyan uses a Browing variant in the communication centre when he captures Bond again
Used Browning HP for years without a problem but time and tech moved on its called progress
Cheers :007)
It may be progress and the Hi power has been around for a very long time, the Glock is a fine hand gun, be even better with a proper safety though.
No, it was a pretty routinely deployed weapon for the US military but it sits quite nicely in the display, scattered around the museum are other weapons used by Bond more recently.
It was either that.....or the priesthood
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Spectre henchman also used the M1 carbine along with some other weapons when Blofeld's Volcano lair was invaded by Tiger Tanaka's Ninjas in You Only Live Twice. Some of the Ninja's also had them during this scene too.
Another favorite weapon of mine is the FN P90.
Produced:(1990 - present)
Type: Submachine Gun
Length: 19.7 in (500 mm)
Weight: 5.60 lb (2.54 kg) empty
Caliber: 5.7x28mm
Capacity: 10, 30, 50-round horizontal box magazines (all magazines are of the same physical dimensions with spacers in smaller versions)
Fire Modes: Semi, Full-Auto (900 RPM)
This SMG was made by FN Herstal per direct request of NATO, who wanted a new cartridge that had greater power than 9x19mm and could penetrate body armor better. The P90 and the 5.7mm round it fires were the result. Most notably the P90 appeared in The World Is Not Enough, after a short appearance in Wai Lin's safe house armory in Tomorrow Never Dies. James Bond as well as Renard and various other characters made use of this weapon in the film. Additionally many fans know it from its appearances in various video games tie ins such as Goldeneye 007 for the Nintendo 64*, The World Is Not Enough for Nintendo 64 & Playstation and the PC/ Gameboy version of Nightfire. In real life many military and law enforcement personal use this weapon, the 5.7mm round is designed to dump its energy into the target with little risk of over penetration. Additionally, due to its unique method of eliminating spent casings(the ammunition casings drop through a chute at the rear of the receiver) makes it popular with both right and left handed shooters.
* Due to a mistake in programming, the gun in the game has an 80 round magazine instead of the correct 50 . (50 in hexidecimal is 80 in decimal)
Spectre henchman also used the M1 carbine along with some other weapons when Blofeld's Volcano lair was invaded by Tiger Tanaka's Ninjas in You Only Live Twice. Some of the Ninja's also had them during this scene too.
Another favorite weapon of mine is the FN P90.
Produced:(1990 - present)
Type: Submachine Gun
Length: 19.7 in (500 mm)
Weight: 5.60 lb (2.54 kg) empty
Caliber: 5.7x28mm
Capacity: 10, 30, 50-round horizontal box magazines (all magazines are of the same physical dimensions with spacers in smaller versions)
Fire Modes: Semi, Full-Auto (900 RPM)
This SMG was made by FN Herstal per direct request of NATO, who wanted a new cartridge that had greater power than 9x19mm and could penetrate body armor better. The P90 and the 5.7mm round it fires were the result. Most notably the P90 appeared in The World Is Not Enough, after a short appearance in Wai Lin's safe house armory in Tomorrow Never Dies. James Bond as well as Renard and various character made use of this weapon in the film. Additionally many fans know it from its appearances in various video games tie ins such as Goldeneye 007 for the Nintendo 64* and the PC/ Gameboy version of Nightfire. In real life many military and law enforcement personal use this weapon, the 5.7mm round is designed to dump its energy into the target with little risk of over penetration. Additionally, due to its unique method of eliminating spent casings(the ammunition casings drop through a chute at the rear of the receiver) makes it popular with both right and left handed shooters.
* Due to a mistake in programming, the gun in the game has an 80 round magazine instead of the correct 50 . (50 in hexidecimal is 80 in decimal)
Thanks for the info, very interesting -{
It was either that.....or the priesthood
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Now it is time for the Most Famous Gun In The World, The Walther PPK.
The Walther PPK is manufactured in 7.65x17mm (.32 ACP) Auto or 9x17mm (.380 ACP) ,additionally Walther produced some in
6.35mm (.25ACP) and .22LR.
While the K would commonly stand for kurz, German for "Short", PPK means Polizei Pistole Kriminal, the Criminal Police Pistol, noted by its compact size. The Walther PPK is a shortened version of the Walther PP. Since it was the most common compact pistol of WW2 (for the German military and police forces). It has gained for from its usage as James Bond's weapon of choice in the novels and the feature film adaptations.
Note, the K does indeed stand for Kriminal, however, this term needs some fleshing out. It is referred to as Kriminal not because of any preferred usage of smaller guns by Criminals, but because this is the gun issued to the Criminal division (Kriminalpolizei), i.e. the people who investigate crimes, which would be termed 'Detectives Division' in most U.S. police forces. Just like most patrolmen in the USA carried a 4 inch revolver at the time, and the Detectives often carried a snub nose revolver suitable for concealed carry (Colt specifically calling theirs the Detective Special) so too did the investigative branch of the German Police desire to carry a smaller version of the full sized patrolman's duty weapon.
Despite its age, it is still a popular weapon with the shooting community and an accurate weapon as well.
Ugh I cringed at some of my past messages on this thread.
I remember that Bond used a Walther PP in Dr No and that the PPKs that have been used (and been discussed extensively here) in the movies have all been different versions if I recall correctly. The most impressive one was the GoldenEye one which was a relatively new casting at the time, fresh off the factory.
Wonder how suppressors have varied and what that really does for these in real life.
An inaccuracy I can recall is the muzzle flash when suppressors were attached to the PPK which is inaccurate to how it'd be.
Since I'm here though...
My personal favourite from the Moore era always has been the most powerful gun in the world, according to Dirty Harry
Roger looked badass with it even if he famously hated guns.
Of course it wasn't Bond who made it famous but Bond rode the San Francisco detective's wave. Model 28s were the model the 29 was based off of and actually got quite popular because it was chambered in .357 Magnum, but when the 29; the .44 Magnum came along Smith actually couldn't get it out the door and considered it a sales flop.
With the popularity of Dirty Harry, sales skyrocketed and shooters who wouldn't be into guns but wanted to experience the 29 to feel a little bit closer to Harry actually bought and sold the gun with less that a full cylinder shot because of the recoil being too much for novice shooters. Overnight, it essentially became a best seller.
While Harry had 8+ inch barrels aswell as 6 inch ones, Bond used the more conservative 6 inch one to achieve better balance....or look cooler.
From everything I've seen Roger always used the classic actor shooting pose and isn't really an accurate demonstration on how it should be handled, but then again Harry wasn't much better.
It's one of those guns like what the Lamborghini Countach is to me of that same era, a real icon.
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WHAT? It's huge! I mean really huge, Bond would need a suitcase on wheels to carry and conceal it. the ammo costs a fortune, and it's unreliable unless you find an original irsraeli made one....... No no no let lara Croft keep the desert eagle.
I was expecting this sort of response.
:v
Utterly pointless...but so is having a giant laser gun.
Why wouldn't a Bond villain have one?
(No, not Goldmember)
Certainly not a good undercover carry weapon, but better than carrying a brick, huh ?
Used Browning HP for years without a problem but time and tech moved on its called progress
Cheers :007)
It has a futuristic, late 80s (almost Cyberpunk-y) look to it.
It may be progress and the Hi power has been around for a very long time, the Glock is a fine hand gun, be even better with a proper safety though.
Paperweight?
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Both... and I think it'd do.
US Navy Seals like it enough.
Saw a nice display yesterday, featuring some well known firearms.
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Dr No during the attack on crab key.
Another favorite weapon of mine is the FN P90.
Produced:(1990 - present)
Type: Submachine Gun
Length: 19.7 in (500 mm)
Weight: 5.60 lb (2.54 kg) empty
Caliber: 5.7x28mm
Capacity: 10, 30, 50-round horizontal box magazines (all magazines are of the same physical dimensions with spacers in smaller versions)
Fire Modes: Semi, Full-Auto (900 RPM)
This SMG was made by FN Herstal per direct request of NATO, who wanted a new cartridge that had greater power than 9x19mm and could penetrate body armor better. The P90 and the 5.7mm round it fires were the result. Most notably the P90 appeared in The World Is Not Enough, after a short appearance in Wai Lin's safe house armory in Tomorrow Never Dies. James Bond as well as Renard and various other characters made use of this weapon in the film. Additionally many fans know it from its appearances in various video games tie ins such as Goldeneye 007 for the Nintendo 64*, The World Is Not Enough for Nintendo 64 & Playstation and the PC/ Gameboy version of Nightfire. In real life many military and law enforcement personal use this weapon, the 5.7mm round is designed to dump its energy into the target with little risk of over penetration. Additionally, due to its unique method of eliminating spent casings(the ammunition casings drop through a chute at the rear of the receiver) makes it popular with both right and left handed shooters.
* Due to a mistake in programming, the gun in the game has an 80 round magazine instead of the correct 50 . (50 in hexidecimal is 80 in decimal)
Thanks for the info, very interesting -{
Specifications
Produced: 1931 - Present
Type: Semi-Automatic Pistol
Caliber: .22 LR, .32 ACP, .380 ACP,
Capacity: 10 (.22 LR), 7(.32 ACP), 6 (.380 ACP) round magazine
Fire Modes: Semiautomatic, Double Action
The Walther PPK is manufactured in 7.65x17mm (.32 ACP) Auto or 9x17mm (.380 ACP) ,additionally Walther produced some in
6.35mm (.25ACP) and .22LR.
While the K would commonly stand for kurz, German for "Short", PPK means Polizei Pistole Kriminal, the Criminal Police Pistol, noted by its compact size. The Walther PPK is a shortened version of the Walther PP. Since it was the most common compact pistol of WW2 (for the German military and police forces). It has gained for from its usage as James Bond's weapon of choice in the novels and the feature film adaptations.
Note, the K does indeed stand for Kriminal, however, this term needs some fleshing out. It is referred to as Kriminal not because of any preferred usage of smaller guns by Criminals, but because this is the gun issued to the Criminal division (Kriminalpolizei), i.e. the people who investigate crimes, which would be termed 'Detectives Division' in most U.S. police forces. Just like most patrolmen in the USA carried a 4 inch revolver at the time, and the Detectives often carried a snub nose revolver suitable for concealed carry (Colt specifically calling theirs the Detective Special) so too did the investigative branch of the German Police desire to carry a smaller version of the full sized patrolman's duty weapon.
Despite its age, it is still a popular weapon with the shooting community and an accurate weapon as well.
I remember that Bond used a Walther PP in Dr No and that the PPKs that have been used (and been discussed extensively here) in the movies have all been different versions if I recall correctly. The most impressive one was the GoldenEye one which was a relatively new casting at the time, fresh off the factory.
Wonder how suppressors have varied and what that really does for these in real life.
An inaccuracy I can recall is the muzzle flash when suppressors were attached to the PPK which is inaccurate to how it'd be.
Since I'm here though...
My personal favourite from the Moore era always has been the most powerful gun in the world, according to Dirty Harry
Roger looked badass with it even if he famously hated guns.
Of course it wasn't Bond who made it famous but Bond rode the San Francisco detective's wave. Model 28s were the model the 29 was based off of and actually got quite popular because it was chambered in .357 Magnum, but when the 29; the .44 Magnum came along Smith actually couldn't get it out the door and considered it a sales flop.
With the popularity of Dirty Harry, sales skyrocketed and shooters who wouldn't be into guns but wanted to experience the 29 to feel a little bit closer to Harry actually bought and sold the gun with less that a full cylinder shot because of the recoil being too much for novice shooters. Overnight, it essentially became a best seller.
While Harry had 8+ inch barrels aswell as 6 inch ones, Bond used the more conservative 6 inch one to achieve better balance....or look cooler.
From everything I've seen Roger always used the classic actor shooting pose and isn't really an accurate demonstration on how it should be handled, but then again Harry wasn't much better.
It's one of those guns like what the Lamborghini Countach is to me of that same era, a real icon.