I'm not sure who cares, but I'd promised to upload a couple of pics of my Barbour Graham (washed version). As a reminder, I sized down. I wear the To Ki To in XL and went with the medium for the Graham. Someone suggested that sizing down was ruining the SA affect but I think this jacket first me like it fits Craig in the few shots we've seen. YMMV.
(Sorry for the crap lighting, plant in the background, etc. Office bathroom.)
It's funny but I was absolutely convinced it was the "unwashed" version originally.
Now I'm sure that Craig wears the "washed" version. It's all down to that collar tab and the position of the metal popper button.
It's true, I know how that's worked out in the past )
I'm not familiar with how Barbour's partnerships work. But my understanding is that the only thing that stopped Barbour from re-releasing an exact run of the To Ki To was related to it being *by* To Ki To. Is there any sense as to wether or not Engineered Garments will be the same situation?
I'm not familiar with how Barbour's partnerships work. But my understanding is that the only thing that stopped Barbour from re-releasing an exact run of the To Ki To was related to it being *by* To Ki To. Is there any sense as to wether or not Engineered Garments will be the same situation?
Thats hard to say. The Graham is from the japanese-born American fashion designer Daiki Suzuki (the outfit has a japanese influence when I think about that the TF jeans are described with "Japanese Denim"), so maybe we will have the same situation,time will tell...I'm so hungry for new pictures
for those who wondering why the Jacket runs so large; the Oversized-Look is the signature-cut from "Engineered Garments" and I'm not a fan of that aswell, it looks as if Barbour tries to catch younger costumers if they collaborate with such a hipster-brand
I believe the reason for this is less about styling and more about the denim loom quality. I forget the exact details but I remember reading something to the effect of the best pre-war denim looms, for whatever reason, ended up in Japan. Which is why Japan is generally considered the capitol for high quality jeans. So it makes sense TF would be sourcing from Japan because the quality is, on average, better.
But this is based off a 10 year old memory of a business article I once read. I could be wrong.
I screenshot these TF NTTD details a while back when they were posted to this thread (sorry I can't remember who did it) and I was wondering if someone knows which shirt and suit (colour/scene) go with which code?
I believe the reason for this is less about styling and more about the denim loom quality. I forget the exact details but I remember reading something to the effect of the best pre-war denim looms, for whatever reason, ended up in Japan. Which is why Japan is generally considered the capitol for high quality jeans. So it makes sense TF would be sourcing from Japan because the quality is, on average, better.
But this is based off a 10 year old memory of a business article I once read. I could be wrong.
The best selvage denims come from Japan. They have the best and older machines and they make the higher quality selvage on earth : they make jeans which can stand on their own as they are made with a heavy weight denim !!!
Comparison of the Unlined (at the back) to the Washed Graham in photographs below. Usual issues with capturing colours as you’ll see between the two photos!
Aside from the lack of collar studs, the Washed is more a traditional navy, has brass poppers (vs silver/gunmetal on Unlined) and weighs about 25% more. The other difference is the throat latch, which is detachable on the Washed (sewn in on the Unlined). The Washed throat latch naturally falls ( on mine anyway) so see the polished blue button, with the straight edge of the throat latch fabric at the top, whereas on the Unlined the angled edge of fabric is at the top and this is fixed. You can twist the throat latch over on the Washed, as you see in second photo, but this has to be purposefully done by hand. If anyone has a decent enlargement of throat latch from the trailers, it might help in getting to an answer...
If you are thinking why do I have two - well the Unlined is a large/tent and all that I could find , so I’m awaiting confirmation on correct version and hoping I can find someone who wants to trade for a Unlined Medium or Small... though not that likely with this oversize style...
I literally had the washed Graham in my cart when it was on sale at a price under $300 USD but my Discover card initially declined it due to them thinking it was fraudulent (being an order to a company in the UK instead of stateside).. By the time I got through to them and got the charge a green light - the size small was sold out ! If anyone happened to pick up a small on sale and it did not work out.. please PM me as I would love to snag one of these.
I literally had the washed Graham in my cart when it was on sale at a price under $300 USD but my Discover card initially declined it due to them thinking it was fraudulent (being an order to a company in the UK instead of stateside).. By the time I got through to them and got the charge a green light - the size small was sold out ! If anyone happened to pick up a small on sale and it did not work out.. please PM me as I would love to snag one of these.
Yeah i commented on this about a month ago how it was a bunch of BS that Connolly said it was limited but in reality it's not. Regarding the XXXL it's not listed on the sizing chart but it can be added to your shopping cart so who knows. I feel like contacting Maximos and asking whats up and when are we going to receive our garment bag, hanger and extra buttons?
Yeah i commented on this about a month ago how it was a bunch of BS that Connolly said it was limited but in reality it's not. Regarding the XXXL it's not listed on the sizing chart but it can be added to your shopping cart so who knows. I feel like contacting Maximos and asking whats up and when are we going to receive our garment bag, hanger and extra buttons?
They have the material to make approximately 150 after that there will be no more of the correct material, they are getting made in batches hence they sell out and then more are added.
Yeah i commented on this about a month ago how it was a bunch of BS that Connolly said it was limited but in reality it's not. Regarding the XXXL it's not listed on the sizing chart but it can be added to your shopping cart so who knows. I feel like contacting Maximos and asking whats up and when are we going to receive our garment bag, hanger and extra buttons?
They have the material to make approximately 150 after that there will be no more of the correct material, they are getting made in batches hence they sell out and then more are added.
Am I the only one that doesn't like this jacket all that much? It is great there are more available for those that do like it, but for me it is a pass. Thanks for giving the heads up to everyone, Noi.
I'm not sure who cares, but I'd promised to upload a couple of pics of my Barbour Graham (washed version). As a reminder, I sized down. I wear the To Ki To in XL and went with the medium for the Graham. Someone suggested that sizing down was ruining the SA affect but I think this jacket first me like it fits Craig in the few shots we've seen. YMMV.
(Sorry for the crap lighting, plant in the background, etc. Office bathroom.)
It's funny but I was absolutely convinced it was the "unwashed" version originally.
Now I'm sure that Craig wears the "washed" version. It's all down to that collar tab and the position of the metal popper button.
And I think, we should be careful tailoring jackets that are supposed to have a certain style only to make them look like a Tom Ford Harrington.
As has often been the case, Craig’s style reminisces McQueen’s.
And this jacket with it’s somewhat roomy or baggy swagger reminisces McQueen’s waxed jacket from Cincinnati.
Am I the only one that doesn't like this jacket all that much? It is great there are more available for those that do like it, but for me it is a pass. Thanks for giving the heads up to everyone, Noi.
I noticed the new XXXL size on their website last week and emailed Max and also the general shop email on Thursday morning asking if I could exchange my XXL as I'm not 100% happy with the length. Still awaiting a response! I also have not received the buttons and garment bag, so it looks like no one has?!
I noticed the new XXXL size on their website last week and emailed Max and also the general shop email on Thursday morning asking if I could exchange my XXL as I'm not 100% happy with the length. Still awaiting a response! I also have not received the buttons and garment bag, so it looks like no one has?!
ye these are exactly my thoughts, I like the jacket but I think that it runs a bit short, if I had the chance to go for the XXXL I would have done that right from the beginning, but Connolly kind of forced me to pull the trigger that early because of that "limited run"
would be nice if you could share Max's response, thank you! (if you get one)
I received a E-Mail from Vuarnet today that they restocked the Edge 1613 (they also claim that they have limited quantities) but I couldn't find the exact sa ones with the correct frames, the Black Grey Polar are kind of rare right now
And I think, we should be careful tailoring jackets that are supposed to have a certain style only to make them look like a Tom Ford Harrington.
As has often been the case, Craig’s style reminisces McQueen’s.
And this jacket with it’s somewhat roomy or baggy swagger reminisces McQueen’s waxed jacket from Cincinnati.
Mine hasn't been tailored. And the fit seems close to what I see in the pictures below.
If it is the Barbour Graham, then it is a hugely oversized jacket in standard sizes. No way Craig wears a large or a medium. So I sized down, as I suspected he did (while he also had the benefit of tailoring).
Yeah i commented on this about a month ago how it was a bunch of BS that Connolly said it was limited but in reality it's not. Regarding the XXXL it's not listed on the sizing chart but it can be added to your shopping cart so who knows. I feel like contacting Maximos and asking whats up and when are we going to receive our garment bag, hanger and extra buttons?
They have the material to make approximately 150 after that there will be no more of the correct material, they are getting made in batches hence they sell out and then more are added.
Ross if that's the case then I stand corrected and I think it would be safe to say that the reason why there is inventory left is because of the COVID19 situation.
I hope this Graham jacket pans out for those who love it - unless I missed a note, even David says on his video it's not even confirmed to be the correct jacket?
In other news, the fourth time's the charm! How much do you think seven Fed Ex shipments to the US and back cost poor N Peal...?
Yes the Connolly runs short. I wish the body and sleeves were a half inch longer. It's also around twice the price it should be.
That being said, I have worn it around a dozen times already. It's great in the California sun. I can't say I love it, exactly, but I am exceedingly comfortable in it. The draw string is pretty useless, but I just ignore it. If travelling were possible this would be a great jacket to bring along; very lightweight and packs exceedingly small.
I first got the Mango version and wore it once. My family asked about me getting another blue jacket. I explained it was $12. Good reason, they said. They've seen me wear the Connolly several times since and have said nothing. They must think it's the same jacket. ) ) )
I hope this Graham jacket pans out for those who love it - unless I missed a note, even David says on his video it's not even confirmed to be the correct jacket?
In other news, the fourth time's the charm! How much do you think seven Fed Ex shipments to the US cost poor N Peal...?
Probably cost them what the sweater costs. Markdowns and comp shipping are often the price of doing business.
I'm pleased to have gotten the amended version finally and to my eye the distance is better (even though the one on Craig and their catalog model shows 13 or so ribs), but I haven't tried it on yet!
I'm behind on the rib count issue. Is the sweater on N Peal's site inconsistent with the film? I want the sweater but I don't want a returns hassle either.
Someone said it earlier in this thread but it really seems like the "screen accurate" items are fairly inaccurate this movie.
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It's true, I know how that's worked out in the past
We need more pics dammit !!
Thats hard to say. The Graham is from the japanese-born American fashion designer Daiki Suzuki (the outfit has a japanese influence when I think about that the TF jeans are described with "Japanese Denim"), so maybe we will have the same situation,time will tell...I'm so hungry for new pictures
for those who wondering why the Jacket runs so large; the Oversized-Look is the signature-cut from "Engineered Garments" and I'm not a fan of that aswell, it looks as if Barbour tries to catch younger costumers if they collaborate with such a hipster-brand
I believe the reason for this is less about styling and more about the denim loom quality. I forget the exact details but I remember reading something to the effect of the best pre-war denim looms, for whatever reason, ended up in Japan. Which is why Japan is generally considered the capitol for high quality jeans. So it makes sense TF would be sourcing from Japan because the quality is, on average, better.
But this is based off a 10 year old memory of a business article I once read. I could be wrong.
Can anyone help me out with this?
The best selvage denims come from Japan. They have the best and older machines and they make the higher quality selvage on earth : they make jeans which can stand on their own as they are made with a heavy weight denim !!!
Aside from the lack of collar studs, the Washed is more a traditional navy, has brass poppers (vs silver/gunmetal on Unlined) and weighs about 25% more. The other difference is the throat latch, which is detachable on the Washed (sewn in on the Unlined). The Washed throat latch naturally falls ( on mine anyway) so see the polished blue button, with the straight edge of the throat latch fabric at the top, whereas on the Unlined the angled edge of fabric is at the top and this is fixed. You can twist the throat latch over on the Washed, as you see in second photo, but this has to be purposefully done by hand. If anyone has a decent enlargement of throat latch from the trailers, it might help in getting to an answer...
If you are thinking why do I have two - well the Unlined is a large/tent and all that I could find , so I’m awaiting confirmation on correct version and hoping I can find someone who wants to trade for a Unlined Medium or Small... though not that likely with this oversize style...
I think Barbour have a small on their site at the moment for £191 https://www.barbour.com/uk/barbour-x-engineered-garments-washed-graham-casual-jacket
(£162 after student discount).
Im a 41 - 42 chest and 6 ft. Small fitted me perfectly (SA look)!
Given filming / jacket release dates etc its likely its the unwashed. But as others have said. The Washed sits better with the getup.
1. CR. 2. TSWLM. 3. LTK. 4. GF. 5. SF.
https://www.connollyengland.com/products/mix-linen-giubbino-jacket-navy?variant=31746271313969
Nice joke with the Limited Run of 150 pieces and the rare material
I see that they still have the misleading picture of the screen accurate buttons as well.
Nice one Connolly.
Yeah i commented on this about a month ago how it was a bunch of BS that Connolly said it was limited but in reality it's not. Regarding the XXXL it's not listed on the sizing chart but it can be added to your shopping cart so who knows. I feel like contacting Maximos and asking whats up and when are we going to receive our garment bag, hanger and extra buttons?
They have the material to make approximately 150 after that there will be no more of the correct material, they are getting made in batches hence they sell out and then more are added.
But they ran out of the buttons after 10??
"Keeping British end up, sir." - RM "This never happened to the other fellow." - JL "I must be dreaming." SC
And I think, we should be careful tailoring jackets that are supposed to have a certain style only to make them look like a Tom Ford Harrington.
As has often been the case, Craig’s style reminisces McQueen’s.
And this jacket with it’s somewhat roomy or baggy swagger reminisces McQueen’s waxed jacket from Cincinnati.
I noticed the new XXXL size on their website last week and emailed Max and also the general shop email on Thursday morning asking if I could exchange my XXL as I'm not 100% happy with the length. Still awaiting a response! I also have not received the buttons and garment bag, so it looks like no one has?!
ye these are exactly my thoughts, I like the jacket but I think that it runs a bit short, if I had the chance to go for the XXXL I would have done that right from the beginning, but Connolly kind of forced me to pull the trigger that early because of that "limited run"
would be nice if you could share Max's response, thank you! (if you get one)
I received a E-Mail from Vuarnet today that they restocked the Edge 1613 (they also claim that they have limited quantities) but I couldn't find the exact sa ones with the correct frames, the Black Grey Polar are kind of rare right now
Mine hasn't been tailored. And the fit seems close to what I see in the pictures below.
If it is the Barbour Graham, then it is a hugely oversized jacket in standard sizes. No way Craig wears a large or a medium. So I sized down, as I suspected he did (while he also had the benefit of tailoring).
Ross if that's the case then I stand corrected and I think it would be safe to say that the reason why there is inventory left is because of the COVID19 situation.
In other news, the fourth time's the charm! How much do you think seven Fed Ex shipments to the US and back cost poor N Peal...?
That being said, I have worn it around a dozen times already. It's great in the California sun. I can't say I love it, exactly, but I am exceedingly comfortable in it. The draw string is pretty useless, but I just ignore it. If travelling were possible this would be a great jacket to bring along; very lightweight and packs exceedingly small.
I first got the Mango version and wore it once. My family asked about me getting another blue jacket. I explained it was $12. Good reason, they said. They've seen me wear the Connolly several times since and have said nothing. They must think it's the same jacket.
Probably cost them what the sweater costs. Markdowns and comp shipping are often the price of doing business.
How does the new sweater look, HH?
I'm pleased to have gotten the amended version finally and to my eye the distance is better (even though the one on Craig and their catalog model shows 13 or so ribs), but I haven't tried it on yet!
Someone said it earlier in this thread but it really seems like the "screen accurate" items are fairly inaccurate this movie.