We know nothing about the plot yet, right? Has someone an idea of what some could be about? Is it gonna be personal this time to? What is your guys guess? I would love to have one with craig who is a standalone one, this might be the last chance
We know nothing about the plot yet, right? Has someone an idea of what some could be about? Is it gonna be personal this time to? What is your guys guess? I would love to have one with craig who is a standalone one, this might be the last chance
With Seydoux back, chances are high that there will be a personal factor again.
My hope is that they keep it at a minimum and not have him go rogue once more. After all, he‘s a government agent and not a mercenary.
We know nothing about the plot yet, right? Has someone an idea of what some could be about? Is it gonna be personal this time to? What is your guys guess? I would love to have one with craig who is a standalone one, this might be the last chance
It's oft been said that there are a lot of similarities between the DC Bond films, going rogue being the central evidence.
Soooo, below are my summaries of the DC films and on the basis that his films are very similar, you'll see my Bond25 story speculation is a mix of the common elements.
Casino, Bond kills the only lead for a terrorist network and gets sent on holiday. He goes rogue and uncovers bombing plot. To face off against Le Chiffre, Bond is helped by Mathis and Vesper. Bond is also helped by Leiter, he lives. Vesper betrays him and while Bond tries to save her, she dies as the villain's lair is destroyed. Mathis appears to betray him and is captured.
Quantum, Bond kills the only lead in Haiti for a mystery organisation and goes rogue to Bolivia. He involves a young MI-6 agent, Fields, who helps him find Greene and she is murdered. M is not happy about the loss of her agent. Mathis helps him and he is also killed. Leiter helps Bond find villain's lair, which he destroys. Camille helps Bond, but she lives.
Skyfall, Bond goes rogue after being shot and returns to MI-6 after it's attacked and sent on a mission to find Silva. Severin helps him and is then murdered. Moneypenny helps him in Macao, and lives. Bond returns to London to try to save M, they escape to Scotland. Bond's family's gamekeeper, Kincade, helps Bond, but M still dies and Bond's lair is destroyed. Kincade lives.
Spectre, Bond is supposed to be on holiday, kills a man to find a mystery organisation, then goes rogue with the help of Q. Bond is helped by Mrs Sciarra and she lives. Mr White helps Bond, who kills himself. Bond finds Madeleine and then the mystery organisation, destroys the lair, and escapes with Madeleine to return to London to try to save MI-6. Like Camille, Madeleine lives.
So, my guess at Bond25 is a mashup of the above...
Bond is already 'rogue/on holiday' with Madeleine, a Spectre assassin tries to kill him and Madeleine. Bond kills the assassin, his only lead to find Spectre. He goes to Leiter for help to find Spectre's lair, but Leiter is captured by Spectre. Bond encounters the young MI-6 agent along the way, as she is on a parallel mission to stop some devious Spectre plot, she dies helping Bond. M is not happy with Bond about the loss of his agent. Bond is helped by Q and Moneypenny to finish the young MI-6 agent's mission and to save Leiter. Spectre captures Madeleine to blackmail Bond and the last act is Bond trying to stop Spectre and save his friend and wife, a la Dark Knight, and Madeleine dies. The Spectre lair is destroyed, Leiter lives.
11 days before 4 March 2019, the official filming start date for Bond25 so far, is the 21 February, so we could know in a week's time when the press conference is.
We may also get confirmation of a start of filming move to 6 April as the invites for a 4 March press conference would not be sent out and journalists, I imagine, will ask why.
I couldn't find any stories that revealed early the date for Skyfall's 3 November 2011 press conference or Quantum's 24 January 2008 photocall.
BTW Spectre's press conference was 3 December 2014 and Waltz was rumoured on 14 November, 19 days before, which would be 13 February for a 4 March Bond25 press conference. Who is Bond25's villain?
- the tests that we saw on February 11th correspond to scenes related to “vehicles”, since Yves Girard is specialized in this type of action and it seems that he will be the coordinator of vehicle specialists in the film (not necessarily “cars”). Furthermore, these essays would be variations on a scene already prepared, in case in the filming set arise different alternatives and thus be able to offer them to the director and the director of the second unit.
- In addition, the tests of the specialists would have begun at the beginning of January, which confirms that the filming start date is still on March 4th.
- The secrecy in the EON and the 007 Stage is impressive. Only those who work on the film with their corresponding identification enter the studio, there are security arcs, antenna inhibitors … It looks like Fort Knox! (Well, this we already knew…).
- The most likely dates for the press conference to present the film at the 007 Stage, as happened with SPECTRE, would be: February 28th or March 8th. (I know, this is not much, but…)
Regarding the release date change news on the Factual thread, how significant is the change, I can't recall the previous date? What affect will this have on other things?? Hopefully filming isn't going to be pushed back.
- The secrecy in the EON and the 007 Stage is impressive. Only those who work on the film with their corresponding identification enter the studio, there are security arcs, antenna inhibitors … It looks like Fort Knox! (Well, this we already knew…).
They must have stepped up their game since Spectre then :v
This graphic used for the April release date change announcement. I Google image searched and found nothing like this graphic for the previous Bond films. I wonder if we'll see this type of graphic for more Bond 25 news (not delays hopefully!) and for future Bond films?
Either it's purely to give them more time in post or there drama's behind the scenes and all is not well. At this point I am inclined to believe the latter.
Revs1972 wrote:
- The secrecy in the EON and the 007 Stage is impressive. Only those who work on the film with their corresponding identification enter the studio, there are security arcs, antenna inhibitors … It looks like Fort Knox! (Well, this we already knew…).
They must have stepped up their game since Spectre then ajb007/shifty
What's a security arc?
I have no idea. I'm guessing one of those archways you see at an airport security. There are lots of entrances on the 007 studio. Never seen one of those
Even if it would be terrible, I wouldn’t be too surprised if we get an announcement that Craig leaves...Not that there’s any indication for that, but as a lifelong fan it‘s sickening to see what the franchise has become these days...
The official history of the Bond25 script started with the July 2017 EON Bond25 announcement that said Purvis & Wade were the script writers and that it had a November 2019 release date. http://www.007.com/bond-25-announcement/
Fukunaga was announced 20 September 2018, six days after the Bamigboye article; which may suggest that P&W and Fukunaga would work on the treatment's script together. http://www.007.com/bond-25-announcement-4/
So, one wonders, with the extremely experienced P&W (who wrote Casino Royale, remember that P&W haters) and the accomplished Fukunaga, having had six months to work on the script, which is based on a treatment (which one assumes DC, as co-producer, would have approved), why the hell isn't the script done? One can only imagine that Fukunaga abandoned the P&W treatment and they started from scratch.
Is there a chance that they delayed it to wait for a particular actor?
Or do you think they're purposefully moving it to a better weekend.
Both.... though Valentine's Day was always a strange release date. It tells me there was a "love" theme in the story and title perhaps, maybe to do with Bond's history, title could be something like, "Love Rivals", or something more cryptic like "King of Hearts"or "Ace of Hearts", or.... "Heart Attack"
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With Seydoux back, chances are high that there will be a personal factor again.
My hope is that they keep it at a minimum and not have him go rogue once more. After all, he‘s a government agent and not a mercenary.
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Ahem, I refer you to my excellent post;
https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/935980/#p935980
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2845621/You-weren-t-expecting-007-BLOFELD-S-Bond-having-kittens-evil-foe-returns-double-Oscar-winner-Christoph-Waltz-tipped-play-him.html
11 days before 4 March 2019, the official filming start date for Bond25 so far, is the 21 February, so we could know in a week's time when the press conference is.
We may also get confirmation of a start of filming move to 6 April as the invites for a 4 March press conference would not be sent out and journalists, I imagine, will ask why.
I couldn't find any stories that revealed early the date for Skyfall's 3 November 2011 press conference or Quantum's 24 January 2008 photocall.
BTW Spectre's press conference was 3 December 2014 and Waltz was rumoured on 14 November, 19 days before, which would be 13 February for a 4 March Bond25 press conference. Who is Bond25's villain?
- the tests that we saw on February 11th correspond to scenes related to “vehicles”, since Yves Girard is specialized in this type of action and it seems that he will be the coordinator of vehicle specialists in the film (not necessarily “cars”). Furthermore, these essays would be variations on a scene already prepared, in case in the filming set arise different alternatives and thus be able to offer them to the director and the director of the second unit.
- In addition, the tests of the specialists would have begun at the beginning of January, which confirms that the filming start date is still on March 4th.
- The secrecy in the EON and the 007 Stage is impressive. Only those who work on the film with their corresponding identification enter the studio, there are security arcs, antenna inhibitors … It looks like Fort Knox! (Well, this we already knew…).
- The most likely dates for the press conference to present the film at the 007 Stage, as happened with SPECTRE, would be: February 28th or March 8th. (I know, this is not much, but…)
QQ
IF shooting is also delayed - probably October.
But a delayed release doesn’t mean a delayed production start.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
Hah, yeah, I’m kind of expecting that at this point.
Or do you think they're purposefully moving it to a better weekend.
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
What's a security arc?
Oh well. That didn't last long...
Ah, you mean a metal detector...
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https://twitter.com/JamesBondRadio/status/1096702419935916033
That would suggest the filming start date will also be pushed back. And may be 6 April, as Sangren told @colliderfrosty.
JBR has very good connections through its contributor Matthew Chernov (http://jamesbondradio.com/author/mattchernov/) as he is a Hollywood movie industry journalist who writes for the big trade title, Variety.
https://twitter.com/MatthewChernov?lang=en
The official history of the Bond25 script started with the July 2017 EON Bond25 announcement that said Purvis & Wade were the script writers and that it had a November 2019 release date.
http://www.007.com/bond-25-announcement/
14 September 2018 Baz Bamigboye wrote in the Daily Mail that now Boyle had left Purvis & Wade would write a script based on their original Bond25 treatment - a treatment is a straight description of plot, scenes, action, with some dialogue and can run to dozens of pages when very detailed.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6166379/Spymaster-writing-duo-rescue-new-Bond-film-director-Danny-Boyle-walked-out.html
Fukunaga was announced 20 September 2018, six days after the Bamigboye article; which may suggest that P&W and Fukunaga would work on the treatment's script together.
http://www.007.com/bond-25-announcement-4/
Fukunaga is an accomplished writer. He wrote the script for the film, 'It', based on Stephen King's book of the same name.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1560977/?ref_=nmbio_bio_nm
So, one wonders, with the extremely experienced P&W (who wrote Casino Royale, remember that P&W haters) and the accomplished Fukunaga, having had six months to work on the script, which is based on a treatment (which one assumes DC, as co-producer, would have approved), why the hell isn't the script done? One can only imagine that Fukunaga abandoned the P&W treatment and they started from scratch.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bt8FDXDgXKO/
Both.... though Valentine's Day was always a strange release date. It tells me there was a "love" theme in the story and title perhaps, maybe to do with Bond's history, title could be something like, "Love Rivals", or something more cryptic like "King of Hearts"or "Ace of Hearts", or.... "Heart Attack"
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/bond-25-moved-back-april-2020-1203141557/