... how could the foster brother story be "Fixed?"
... The Blofeld in Spectre wasn't really Bond's foster brother; he was just someone using Bond's past to torment him for all the times Bond stopped Spectre\Quantum's plans.
The Blofeld now is Rami Malek ....
Then after Malek is captured or killed, there's someone else waiting in line, with an entirely new identity,
...All while the real Blofeld, the real head of Spectre, lurks in the shadows.
A true spectre. A ghost. Nobody knows his identity. He does business in and through the shadows. Just like the villain in Iron Man 3 who explains his methodology: he rules behind the scenes, in the shadows, while he gives the people a hired face to have a target (and to maintain his anonymity)….
I would love a retcon that explains Oberhauser wasn't really Blofeld, but just Oberhauser.
but why would a subsidiary villain reveal the name and existence of the unseen big baddy behind the scenes? why tell Bond there is somebody named Blofeld? now the world knows there is a Blofeld, even if he isn't the same character we met in SPECTRE. I'm sure the unseen criminal mastermind prefers his anonymity.
What's worse is Waltz melodramatically stating his name is Ernst... Stafro... Blofeld!, like that means something, all the while cuddling his Persian and rocking the Nehru jacket. That only means something to people who've seen the old movies, like when M said "that's when I knew you were you" or Bond joked about the ejector seat. A metatextual distraction that implies the old movies still did happen, in some level of reality, but makes no sense within the dialog of the film.
I wonder if CraigBond saw the old Connery films on teevee in his universe, and that's why he and his fellow characters keep referencing these old adventures?
like maybe when he was a kid somebody said to him "dude! you've got the same name as that guy Sean Connery plays, you should totally be a spy when you grow up!", and now he's done that somebody else says "dude! your name is Bond? mine is Blofeld! how weird is that? we should be total enemies!"
... how could the foster brother story be "Fixed?"
... The Blofeld in Spectre wasn't really Bond's foster brother; he was just someone using Bond's past to torment him for all the times Bond stopped Spectre\Quantum's plans.
The Blofeld now is Rami Malek ....
Then after Malek is captured or killed, there's someone else waiting in line, with an entirely new identity,
...All while the real Blofeld, the real head of Spectre, lurks in the shadows.
A true spectre. A ghost. Nobody knows his identity. He does business in and through the shadows. Just like the villain in Iron Man 3 who explains his methodology: he rules behind the scenes, in the shadows, while he gives the people a hired face to have a target (and to maintain his anonymity)….
I would love a retcon that explains Oberhauser wasn't really Blofeld, but just Oberhauser.
but why would a subsidiary villain reveal the name and existence of the unseen big baddy behind the scenes? why tell Bond there is somebody named Blofeld? now the world knows there is a Blofeld, even if he isn't the same character we met in SPECTRE. I'm sure the unseen criminal mastermind prefers his anonymity.
What's worse is Waltz melodramatically stating his name is Ernst... Stafro... Blofeld!, like that means something, all the while cuddling his Persian and rocking the Nehru jacket. That only means something to people who've seen the old movies, like when M said "that's when I knew you were you" or Bond joked about the ejector seat. A metatextual distraction that implies the old movies still did happen, in some level of reality, but makes no sense within the dialog of the film.
I wonder if CraigBond saw the old Connery films on teevee in their universe, and that's why he and his fellow characters keep referencing these old adventures?
like maybe when he was a kid somebody said to him "dude! you've got the same name as that guy Sean Connery plays, you should totally be a spy when you grow up!", and now he's done that somebody else says "dude! your name is Bond? mine is Blofeld! how weird is that? we should be total enemies!"
I am sure everyone who has had their hands on Bond 25, P&W, Fukunaga, Burns, etc has figured it out....that's why they get paid the big $$$$$$. 8-) ) The answer could be the simplest......Blofeld is still tucked away in jail and someone else is running SPECTRE or in the great old Bond tradition, they just kind of move on with a new story. The inclusion of Madeleine does not mean that Blofeld is back. Being the daughter of Mr. White and the love interest of Her Majesty's most notorious blunt weapon certainly brings with it the potential of all manner of danger and hijinks. Madeline's past probably makes Bond's past look like a walk in the park. I'm just rambling now, but could Bond 25 start off with a teenage Madeleine running for her life on the ice (turns out Madeleine is having a nightmare) and climaxes with Madeleine running for her life once again in the Garden of Death as Bond attempts to save her? Unlike the other loves in Bond's life, he succeeds in saving Madeleine but is left in an ambiguous state as to whether he will survive or die. End credits roll.......James Bond Will Return?
And since I am still rambling (and doing everything I can to delay doing the household chores) I will put my two cents in regarding the idea of Bond being a woman, etc. Just for some perspective, I am an American first but also a proud member of a religious and ethnic minority with a bent toward the left politically. I am all for a female, Asian, Black, etc 00 agents.....008-0099. They could have their own spin off films and /or be included in the Bond films. IMO, even a Trans agent has all kinds of possibilities (anyone remember Mr. Heeshee from the 2nd Best Secret Agent ?). I'd love to see a film with Idris Elba as a "00". But not James Bond. Bond is Bond. Plenty of room for everyone else.
I don't think making the story even more complicated and conveluted is the solution to SPECTRE's plot problems, especially since so many years has passed.
I don't think making the story even more complicated and conveluted is the solution to SPECTRE's plot problems, especially since so many years has passed.
Simple is probably better. They can always make some references to SPECTRE but this is an opportunity to move on to another story.
As I said previously, Madeleine being back does not mean Blofeld, etc has to be back also. As Fukunaga has indicated he wants to finish DC's character arc as Bond and that could certainly be done well without having to make a continuation of SPECTRE.
"Dear user of Marka (the forrest preservation area around Oslo). The area you are entering is a temporary movie set. At times there will be construction work going on here and we want to look after the safety of those who travel in the area. We ask you to be extra aware of the traffic and vehicles on the roads, and respect the enclosed areas and the guidelines given.
Thank you, but I still don't get it. "In the app" - does that man being in Instagram? What's an Instagram story? Sorry, I'm really a internet Luddite at heart.
Ah, so I need to register as a user in Instagram and create my account? But I'm sceptical to social media - what if the NSA discovers I'm a social democrat?
I guess there isn't any breakthrough news in the video. All I can say is that if the pine forrest is right outside Oslo it's probably Lutvann.
Still a little concerned about this script business. Those articles may or may not be accurate so grain of salt but if it's true and the script is still not home and hosed then expectations of the film can only be so high
Still a little concerned about this script business. Those articles may or may not be accurate so grain of salt but if it's true and the script is still not home and hosed then expectations of the film can only be so high
Even if the script is not finished (at least the re-write or polish) unlike QOS where there was a writers strike and non-writers like Craig had to step in to finish the script, EON has options. Fukunaga, who writes, could finish the script or they could always bring another writer in to finish. That all being said, I'm a bit skeptical whether or not that "article" (actually a piece of gossip) is accurate. It was never clear what Burns role was, there's conflicting stories as to whether EON delayed the release because of the script so they could bring Burns on or pushing back the release date was a win, win, as they could release the film at a better time and also have the opportunity to have Burns, who they allegedly always wanted, available to have a go at the script. The alleged "reporters" on the 'net always put a negative spin on things for click bait and tend to try to turn minimal/questionable information into something that appears more substantive by mining old reports and linking quotes from other sources that really have little or no context or connection (ie Ralph Fiennes and other cast members not having seen the script). EON et al on the other hand will always try to spin things in a positive light or just not comment. Bottom line is, we will only really know how good Bond 25 is when we actually see the finished product....and then we will debate that for months. -{
Still a little concerned about this script business. Those articles may or may not be accurate so grain of salt but if it's true and the script is still not home and hosed then expectations of the film can only be so high
Even if the script is not finished (at least the re-write or polish) unlike QOS where there was a writers strike and non-writers like Craig had to step in to finish the script, EON has options. Fukunaga, who writes, could finish the script or they could always bring another writer in to finish. That all being said, I'm a bit skeptical whether or not that "article" (actually a piece of gossip) is accurate. It was never clear what Burns role was, there's conflicting stories as to whether EON delayed the release because of the script so they could bring Burns on or pushing back the release date was a win, win, as they could release the film at a better time and also have the opportunity to have Burns, who they allegedly always wanted, available to have a go at the script. The alleged "reporters" on the 'net always put a negative spin on things for click bait and tend to try to turn minimal/questionable information into something that appears more substantive by mining old reports and linking quotes from other sources that really have little or no context or connection (ie Ralph Fiennes and other cast members not having seen the script). EON et al on the other hand will always try to spin things in a positive light or just not comment. Bottom line is, we will only really know how good Bond 25 is when we actually see the finished product....and then we will debate that for months. -{
Fair point my friend. However a last minute rewrite and an additional release date delay don't scream positives. But you're right, We shall see -{
Months? People are still debating whether some of Connery's movies are any good )
its good people are still debating films that came out 50 years ago. It means they haven't been forgotten, unlike the majority of product that gets cranked out.
Do we think people will still be debating whether or not Craig's films are any good fifty years from now, or has that matter already been settled?
Months? People are still debating whether some of Connery's movies are any good )
its good people are still debating films that came out 50 years ago. It means they haven't been forgotten, unlike the majority of product that gets cranked out.
Do we think people will still be debating whether or not Craig's films are any good fifty years from now, or has that matter already been settled?
I think we will be debating all the Bond films for years to come (and that certainly includes the Craig films, maybe even more so).
Opinions and perceptions change generation to generation. Opinions and perceptions change within our own lifetimes. How I viewed a Connery Bond film in the 60's as a wide eyed 7 to 12 year old is going to be significantly different than as a 61 year old (well, my wife might disagree ) ). Watching TB on a 50' wide screen in a packed 1,200 seat theater as an 8 yr old at the peak of Bondamania was a cultural event. Seeing it for the first time on broadcast TV is a different experience. Of course with our modern giant widescreen TV's and remastered, restored Blu Ray editions of the films, that gap has been made a bit smaller. The difference around here is we study the films. Speaking for myself, I make sure I see a new Bond film in the best venue possible (Dolby Cinema, IMAX, etc) and then will typically buy the Blu Ray upon its release. My initial reaction to seeing a current Bond film is typically more positive because of my state of hype and the visceral experience of seeing it on a huge screen with thundering sound. I usually see things a bit clearer on subsequent viewings on my big screen TV. But it's all fun. It's nice to have that kind of passion for something. Even at my age, I anxiously look forward to Bond 25 and always hold out hope that they will deliver us the next great Bond film.
I wonder if any of the leads will be heading over to Norway in the next few weeks for filming or if its just second unit working there??
Malek's apparent stunt double being there is interesting. I do think, given how on the ball the Norwegian media seem to be, we'll find out a lot over the next week or two. If a lead is there, I bet we'll hear of it.
"You are about to wake when you dream that you are dreaming"
The story is behind a paywall, but the headline is "The shooting in Hakkadal starts now". Hopefully newspapers without paywalls will run the story soon.
If Rami Malek is confirmed as the villain in Bond 25 that would create a nice bit of positive buzz for what is perceived as a difficult pre-production. Also, would an actor of Malik's current stature get on board a production if there were still script problems?
I wonder if any of the leads will be heading over to Norway in the next few weeks for filming or if its just second unit working there??
Malek's apparent stunt double being there is interesting. I do think, given how on the ball the Norwegian media seem to be, we'll find out a lot over the next week or two. If a lead is there, I bet we'll hear of it.
I agree, it is interesting that Malek's stunt double will be there.
Of the 23 Bond films with a PTS, 12 have either a henchman or henchwoman or the film's main villain either simply seen or involved in some substantial way in the PTS.
FRWL - Red Grant kills fake Bond
DAF - Charles Gray as Blofeld appears to die
TMWTGG - Scaramanga kills gangster
Moonraker - Jaws, but is unseen by Bond
LTK - Sanchez gets captured
Goldeneye - 006, but we don't know he's the villain at the time.
TND - Techno terrorist/henchman Henry Gupta is seen, but not by Bond
TWINE - henchwoman Cigar Girl who dies
DAD - Colonel Moon/Gustav Graves and henchman Zao
Quantum - assassin Mr White
Skyfall - henchman Patrice
Spectre - henchman Sciarra, who dies
Of those 12, only five, DAD, Goldeneye, LTK, TMWTGG and DAF, have the main villain in the PTS. Of those, the main villain appears to die in DAD, Goldeneye and DAF.
I wonder if Malek's character is a Red Grant type? OK Malek's got an Oscar but that doesn't mean he will be the main villain IMHO.
If Rami Malek is confirmed as the villain in Bond 25 that would create a nice bit of positive buzz for what is perceived as a difficult pre-production. Also, would an actor of Malik's current stature get on board a production if there were still script problems?
HAHAHAHA
BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY was a sh*tshow from start to finish. He got out all right.
If Rami Malek is confirmed as the villain in Bond 25 that would create a nice bit of positive buzz for what is perceived as a difficult pre-production. Also, would an actor of Malik's current stature get on board a production if there were still script problems?
HAHAHAHA
BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY was a sh*tshow from start to finish. He got out all right.
HAHAHAHA?
Personal opinions re Bohemian Rhapsody aside (I've not even seen it) the film was a box office success and Malek did win the Oscar for Best Actor. Along with Malek's successful run in Mr. Robot, he's a hot name right now. I actually really like the job he did in The Pacific, as a really creepy unhinged Cajun Marine with a penchant for robbing the dead. I think he'd make a good Bond villain.
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but why would a subsidiary villain reveal the name and existence of the unseen big baddy behind the scenes? why tell Bond there is somebody named Blofeld? now the world knows there is a Blofeld, even if he isn't the same character we met in SPECTRE. I'm sure the unseen criminal mastermind prefers his anonymity.
What's worse is Waltz melodramatically stating his name is Ernst... Stafro... Blofeld!, like that means something, all the while cuddling his Persian and rocking the Nehru jacket. That only means something to people who've seen the old movies, like when M said "that's when I knew you were you" or Bond joked about the ejector seat. A metatextual distraction that implies the old movies still did happen, in some level of reality, but makes no sense within the dialog of the film.
I wonder if CraigBond saw the old Connery films on teevee in his universe, and that's why he and his fellow characters keep referencing these old adventures?
like maybe when he was a kid somebody said to him "dude! you've got the same name as that guy Sean Connery plays, you should totally be a spy when you grow up!", and now he's done that somebody else says "dude! your name is Bond? mine is Blofeld! how weird is that? we should be total enemies!"
I am sure everyone who has had their hands on Bond 25, P&W, Fukunaga, Burns, etc has figured it out....that's why they get paid the big $$$$$$. 8-)
And since I am still rambling (and doing everything I can to delay doing the household chores) I will put my two cents in regarding the idea of Bond being a woman, etc. Just for some perspective, I am an American first but also a proud member of a religious and ethnic minority with a bent toward the left politically. I am all for a female, Asian, Black, etc 00 agents.....008-0099. They could have their own spin off films and /or be included in the Bond films. IMO, even a Trans agent has all kinds of possibilities (anyone remember Mr. Heeshee from the 2nd Best Secret Agent ?). I'd love to see a film with Idris Elba as a "00". But not James Bond. Bond is Bond. Plenty of room for everyone else.
Simple is probably better. They can always make some references to SPECTRE but this is an opportunity to move on to another story.
As I said previously, Madeleine being back does not mean Blofeld, etc has to be back also. As Fukunaga has indicated he wants to finish DC's character arc as Bond and that could certainly be done well without having to make a continuation of SPECTRE.
"Dear user of Marka (the forrest preservation area around Oslo). The area you are entering is a temporary movie set. At times there will be construction work going on here and we want to look after the safety of those who travel in the area. We ask you to be extra aware of the traffic and vehicles on the roads, and respect the enclosed areas and the guidelines given.
Have a nice trip"
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I guess there isn't any breakthrough news in the video. All I can say is that if the pine forrest is right outside Oslo it's probably Lutvann.
My secret Bond double movie conspiracy theory CONFIRMED
Even if the script is not finished (at least the re-write or polish) unlike QOS where there was a writers strike and non-writers like Craig had to step in to finish the script, EON has options. Fukunaga, who writes, could finish the script or they could always bring another writer in to finish. That all being said, I'm a bit skeptical whether or not that "article" (actually a piece of gossip) is accurate. It was never clear what Burns role was, there's conflicting stories as to whether EON delayed the release because of the script so they could bring Burns on or pushing back the release date was a win, win, as they could release the film at a better time and also have the opportunity to have Burns, who they allegedly always wanted, available to have a go at the script. The alleged "reporters" on the 'net always put a negative spin on things for click bait and tend to try to turn minimal/questionable information into something that appears more substantive by mining old reports and linking quotes from other sources that really have little or no context or connection (ie Ralph Fiennes and other cast members not having seen the script). EON et al on the other hand will always try to spin things in a positive light or just not comment. Bottom line is, we will only really know how good Bond 25 is when we actually see the finished product....and then we will debate that for months. -{
Months? People are still debating whether some of Connery's movies are any good
Fair point my friend. However a last minute rewrite and an additional release date delay don't scream positives. But you're right, We shall see -{
Do we think people will still be debating whether or not Craig's films are any good fifty years from now, or has that matter already been settled?
I think we will be debating all the Bond films for years to come (and that certainly includes the Craig films, maybe even more so).
Opinions and perceptions change generation to generation. Opinions and perceptions change within our own lifetimes. How I viewed a Connery Bond film in the 60's as a wide eyed 7 to 12 year old is going to be significantly different than as a 61 year old (well, my wife might disagree
Can we officially declare it? Does appear that there will be some activity in Norway starting today.
Malek's apparent stunt double being there is interesting. I do think, given how on the ball the Norwegian media seem to be, we'll find out a lot over the next week or two. If a lead is there, I bet we'll hear of it.
I agree, it is interesting that Malek's stunt double will be there.
Of the 23 Bond films with a PTS, 12 have either a henchman or henchwoman or the film's main villain either simply seen or involved in some substantial way in the PTS.
FRWL - Red Grant kills fake Bond
DAF - Charles Gray as Blofeld appears to die
TMWTGG - Scaramanga kills gangster
Moonraker - Jaws, but is unseen by Bond
LTK - Sanchez gets captured
Goldeneye - 006, but we don't know he's the villain at the time.
TND - Techno terrorist/henchman Henry Gupta is seen, but not by Bond
TWINE - henchwoman Cigar Girl who dies
DAD - Colonel Moon/Gustav Graves and henchman Zao
Quantum - assassin Mr White
Skyfall - henchman Patrice
Spectre - henchman Sciarra, who dies
Of those 12, only five, DAD, Goldeneye, LTK, TMWTGG and DAF, have the main villain in the PTS. Of those, the main villain appears to die in DAD, Goldeneye and DAF.
I wonder if Malek's character is a Red Grant type? OK Malek's got an Oscar but that doesn't mean he will be the main villain IMHO.
I think Bond knows who is trying to bite his leg.
https://www.rb.no/kultur/nittedal/james-bond/kilde-bekrefter-de-har-tatt-opp-noen-scener-i-dag/s/5-43-1022969
HAHAHAHA
BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY was a sh*tshow from start to finish. He got out all right.
007.com just has news items, for example.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150429032713/http://www.007.com/
I think maybe Quantum had a website and an alleged web-based game which never amounted to anything.
Universal has landing pages on its website for their films
https://www.universalpictures.com/movies/fast-furious-presents-hobbs-shaw
And each film has its own website. I am hoping Universal will deliver a good website for Bond25.
But it is odd that there is no Bond25 entry already on Universal's future films webpage.
https://www.universalpictures.com/upcoming-films
My friend, you'll be surprised when you type:
https://www.universalpictures.com/movies/007
HAHAHAHA?
Personal opinions re Bohemian Rhapsody aside (I've not even seen it) the film was a box office success and Malek did win the Oscar for Best Actor. Along with Malek's successful run in Mr. Robot, he's a hot name right now. I actually really like the job he did in The Pacific, as a really creepy unhinged Cajun Marine with a penchant for robbing the dead. I think he'd make a good Bond villain.
Thanks! At least now I know where to go online in early April to hit ctrl+F5 repeatedly until Eclipse pops up.
What if this is a bigger scoop than you think and Bond25 is called '007' !!!!