Are you seriously suggesting Blake Lively didn't make The Rhythm Section? That she conspired with Eon Productions to fake a role? Why would she do that? How does that benefit her career? And if you're correct, she also faked a hand injury too? After all, it's a fake film so it must be a fake injury!
No, Blake Lively will be in Bond 25 or Bond 26. She filmed her scenes for one or both those films under the guise of TRS. I think being in a Bond film would benefit anyone's career.
How many films do you know are halted for many months because someone hurt their hand? I don't see any sign of terrible hand injury here; https://images.app.goo.gl/1ywKeAFLmBDAefTQ7
Are you seriously suggesting Blake Lively didn't make The Rhythm Section? That she conspired with Eon Productions to fake a role? Why would she do that? How does that benefit her career? And if you're correct, she also faked a hand injury too? After all, it's a fake film so it must be a fake injury!
No, Blake Lively will be in Bond 25 or Bond 26. She filmed her scenes for one or both those films under the guise of TRS. I think being in a Bond film would benefit anyone's career.
How many films do you know are halted for many months because someone hurt their hand? I don't see any sign of terrible hand injury here; https://images.app.goo.gl/1ywKeAFLmBDAefTQ7
I love this. The great secret back to back Bond films conspiracy reaches another level ) . Can you imagine if Someone's Bond 25 and 26 back to back conspiracy turns out to be true...it would have to be the greatest WTF moment ever on the AJB.
No, Blake Lively will be in Bond 25 or Bond 26. She filmed her scenes for one or both those films under the guise of TRS. I think being in a Bond film would benefit anyone's career.
The bolded sentence above gave it away. Someone is pulling our leg.
I love this. The great secret back to back Bond films conspiracy reaches another level ) . Can you imagine if Someone's Bond 25 and 26 back to back conspiracy turns out to be true...it would have to be the greatest WTF moment ever on the AJB.
There was talk of filming 2 films back to back before. That wouldn't surprise me a whole lot. But if TRS is just a cover for Bond films, I will eat my Lock & Co trilby.
No, Blake Lively will be in Bond 25 or Bond 26. She filmed her scenes for one or both those films under the guise of TRS. I think being in a Bond film would benefit anyone's career.
The bolded sentence above gave it away. Someone is pulling our leg.
I think back to not only Spectre, but to Avengers Endgame. (SPOILERS FOR BOTH!)
For Spectre, somebody wrote a long, detailed, amazing historical writeup about how there's a BIG twist in Spectre we all missed, about how Denbigh's character is the real Blofeld.
But in the end, there was no twist. It was just as we suspected, and it was all pretty much given away in the first teaser: Blofeld is an old buddy of Bond from his childhood.
As was the case for Avengers Endgame: will it be like Edge of Tomorrow where they keep rewinding the past to undo the snap?
Will they use the Time Stone?
Nope. Just like the set pictures that leaked, they're using time travel. The "time vortex" comment from Ant Man and The Wasp was the big giveaway that Quantum Realm\time travel would play a big role, as was Ant Man showing up in the first teaser at the very end.
So, yeah, I honestly think that Rhythm Section is a legitimate production like Film Stars Don't Die In Liverpool: Babs's attempt to branch out and do different stuff.
I imagine that if it was 2 Bonds back to back, that's definitely something they would hype up and announce ASAP to get the hype train running, and to claim 2 spots in the release schedule early on.
Are you seriously suggesting Blake Lively didn't make The Rhythm Section? That she conspired with Eon Productions to fake a role? Why would she do that? How does that benefit her career? And if you're correct, she also faked a hand injury too? After all, it's a fake film so it must be a fake injury!
No, Blake Lively will be in Bond 25 or Bond 26. She filmed her scenes for one or both those films under the guise of TRS. I think being in a Bond film would benefit anyone's career.
How many films do you know are halted for many months because someone hurt their hand? I don't see any sign of terrible hand injury here; https://images.app.goo.gl/1ywKeAFLmBDAefTQ7
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I think we need some 'new' news about No Time To Fly... I mean Try... er Die! Yes, that's what we need. It will give us something to think about other than Someone's amazing 'two Bond films' conspiracy theory!!!
There's no reason to be so secretive. Back to the Future Parts 2 and 3 were shot back-to-back and there was no secret. The Lord of the Rings Trilogy was shot all at once - no secret. I'm guessing there are other examples.
If Daniel Craig has agreed to make two more films back-to-back (which he said he wouldn't but let's say he changed his mind) why would Eon Productions and MGM need to keep it a secret? Why would Blakely Lively and Jude Law want to pretend to be making a fake spy film when it's actually Bond 26? It's a bit silly when you think about it.
It would also be legally questionable to pretend to make the film. TRS is based on a book by Mark Burnell. Why would he want his book to be made into a fake film/it's actually Bond 26! Mark Burnell has no links to the Bond films. Would why he want his work to be a disguise for Bond 26? It's tough getting any novel made into a film. If you're fortunate enough to get studio backing or other investors, you're not going to risk your work being used to make another film! That's preposterous.
The bottom line is The Rhythm Section is a real novel:
It's real, people have read it. There's no reason why any author would want their REAL novel to be made into a FAKE film just to help another film franchise. With respect, Someone, you're just trolling us. We've indulged your 'joke' long enough but it's time for you to admit defeat - the joke isn't going to convince anyone.
And why would this fake film be about a female spy? Broccoli has clearly stated she is interested in expanding female roles in action movies. Why would this female lead action movie, starring two big stars, be only a hidden Bond film! That's insane. (and why hide the film, as bonded 123 has stated so clearly, you're wasting advertising. Bond film back to back is media gold, remember they're making these films for everyone, not just the diehard fans). I love you to be right, and we all will be shaking our heads and praising you if you are but it is very very unlikely to a ludicrous extent.
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-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
Double feature I guess unlikely but would be cool with all the filming locations etc it feels like it might one long movie otherwise - remember a doubler was talked about previously after Skyfall etc. However don't buy a decoy movie - thats hilarious.
Though Jude Law vs Daniel Craig might be interesting “So Mr Bond - you screwed my girlfriend”
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People really shouldn’t ridicule Someone so much. He could be reaching a tad, but he may be closer to the truth than most people realise. It’s fun to speculate..
The amount of outdoor locations alone that are appearing it wouldnt surprise me to see the film split into two like Back to the Future etc and a easy way to extend DCs tenure in one blast
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One thing that isn’t speculation. There are some weird things happening in this production and it’s far from standard. There are different prop units, armourers and wardrobe units involved all at the same time. Exactly as if they were involved in shooting different films. As I said, Someone shouldn’t get so much ridicule, there is more than enough stuff going on that could lead to that speculation quite easily.
The amount of outdoor locations alone that are appearing it wouldnt surprise me to see the film split into two like Back to the Future etc and a easy way to extend DCs tenure in one blast
That was exactly my line of thought when I‘ve seen the extensive list of locations {[] {[]
Location shooting is bloody expensive in those days with huge budgets for the previous films, I habe strong doubts, that the budget for location shootings is expanded significantly.
Craig‘s and Waltz‘s paychecks for sure have been lifted up significantly, they can‘t do that everywhere else.
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Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
MGM Holdings, which is privately held, holds quarterly conference calls with its investors and routinely files business plans on their investor relations website. They do this, as any company does, to update those who have sunk millions in the company as to the company's financials and to get people to invest more money in their future plans.
There would be zero reason for them to be "hiding" an entire James Bond movie and to have essentially fabricated the production of another.
THAT is much more of a clue that talk of a 2nd, secret Bond movie is garbage.
Asp9mmOver the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
Not really. You can shoot one film and get 6 hours of useable footage. Many films have rough cuts of 4 hours plus. It’s a stretch to say the least to keep it under wraps from the public. As Fleming said, improbable, but not impossible.
Asp9mm, what about The Rhythm Section being a fake film? That's the only things that seems utterly ridiculous. There's much more evidence of that being a real film than a fake film. And there are no signs that point to it being Bond filming instead of what it claims to be.
Asp9mmOver the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
Matt, I’ve not looked into that at all, so have no idea what it’s all about. Someone likes to look at the minutiae of production schedules etc as it’s his thing where mine is props and guns and yours is sartorial. Our fixation relies on facts and evidence, but Someone’s fixation deals much more in speculation. So therefore I do think we need to embrace that a little more. I mean, it’s not as if he’s as mad as Higgins is it ). Is it
MGM Holdings, which is privately held, holds quarterly conference calls with its investors and routinely files business plans on their investor relations website. They do this, as any company does, to update those who have sunk millions in the company as to the company's financials and to get people to invest more money in their future plans.
There would be zero reason for them to be "hiding" an entire James Bond movie and to have essentially fabricated the production of another.
THAT is much more of a clue that talk of a 2nd, secret Bond movie is garbage.
Talking of a lack of evidence, I don't see any evidence here. US firms don't have to disclose much at all. As someone who has had to deal with US company financial statements, I know they can be opaque. As Ajay Chowdhury explained on the latest James Bond and Friend podcast, films are funded in tranches. No one gets the $200 million up front.
Asp9mm, what about The Rhythm Section being a fake film? That's the only things that seems utterly ridiculous. There's much more evidence of that being a real film than a fake film. And there are no signs that point to it being Bond filming instead of what it claims to be.
People do seem to get worked up about the TRS fake film theory. It is a discussion forum everyone. I didn't include TRS in my original two film theory, but in this post https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/928695/#p928695 I did because the TRS situation was so strange. I wrote;
EON's film The Rythm Section, which started filming in December 2017 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rhythm_Section) and then stopped due to Blake Lively's hand injury the same month is partly cover for Bond25 filming.
The Rythm Section (TRS) suspended filming for six months (for a hand injury? Harrison Ford's broken leg stopped Force Awakens production for a few weeks) allowing the staff that were also hired to film Bond25 to continue doing that (you can find EON staff who were hired for TRS and Bond25 on LinkedIn) and then resume TRS later, in June 2018. (https://variety.com/2018/film/news/blake-lively-the-rhythm-section-resuming-production-june-1202691086/)
Looking back what I actually wrote was that the six month hiatus for TRS was an opportune time for people working on that film to work on a Bond film. In that case, TRS is not fake.
Asp9mm, what about The Rhythm Section being a fake film? That's the only things that seems utterly ridiculous. There's much more evidence of that being a real film than a fake film. And there are no signs that point to it being Bond filming instead of what it claims to be.
People do seem to get worked up about the TRS fake film theory. It is a discussion forum everyone. I didn't include TRS in my original two film theory, but in this post https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/928695/#p928695 I did because the TRS situation was so strange. I wrote;
EON's film The Rythm Section, which started filming in December 2017 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rhythm_Section) and then stopped due to Blake Lively's hand injury the same month is partly cover for Bond25 filming.
The Rythm Section (TRS) suspended filming for six months (for a hand injury? Harrison Ford's broken leg stopped Force Awakens production for a few weeks) allowing the staff that were also hired to film Bond25 to continue doing that (you can find EON staff who were hired for TRS and Bond25 on LinkedIn) and then resume TRS later, in June 2018. (https://variety.com/2018/film/news/blake-lively-the-rhythm-section-resuming-production-june-1202691086/)
Looking back what I actually wrote was that the six month hiatus for TRS was an opportune time for people working on that film to work on a Bond film. In that case, TRS is not fake.
Yeah, we've read all this before. It remains completely baseless. If AJB users don't breach the terms and conditions of this site you're free to post what you want about James Bond. However, I think you have intentionally exploited the site with your conspiracy theory. You're posting to get attention or to troll Bond fans.
I think you should stop posting these silly claims. It makes you look foolish. There is no logical, sane reason why an author would want one of his/her books to be 'pretend-adapted' into film. Writing novels takes time, months or years, and when an author is fortunate enough to get their work adapted to film they don't say "forget my novel, let's just pretend to make it and film a James Bond film instead." It's absolute nonsense.
You have contradicted yourself over and over again. You wrote:
the six month hiatus for TRS was an opportune time for people working on that film to work on a Bond film. In that case, TRS is not fake.
...but in a previous post you wrote:
You give a production a title, The Rhythm Section, you make announcements about this and that, but in reality the actual filming that takes place at Pinewood and elsewhere is for scenes from Bond 25 and 26.Blake Lively could easily be a Bond girl. Jude Law is paid a sum of money and told the truth. He goes along with it. Or maybe he gets a cameo as 008?
So one moment TRS is not fake - your actual words - then another moment Blake Lively could be a Bond girl and Jude Law is playing 008 so TRS is just a cover for Bond 25. One post you say TRS is actually filming for Bond 25 but in another post you claim the six month hiatus in TRS would mean it's not fake. The cast/crew could work on Bond 25. You do realise this makes you sound crazy. You're saying two contradictory things to justify your theory. TRS is either real or it's fake - can't be both.
Why do Eon need to cover up anything? They told us Craig had an injury, they told us Danny Boyle and John Hodges had left Bond 25, they told us each time the release date was changed - what is there to cover up? 8-)
I hope you post a full retraction when the first Rhythm Section trailer is released.
They're just ideas. It's a discussion forum. You can ignore my posts. If I write such nonsense why respond?
As is shown, I have proposed different theories at different times. I propose different ideas as different facts emerge.
I've always made clear they're just possible hypothesis. Think about this. The Rhythm Section is now scheduled for February next year, six months away. Where's the teaser trailer?
I am not going to die in a ditch for any of it. It's all just a bit of speculative fun. Why do people appear to get so angry?
Would it be a good idea for Someone to have a separate thread for the The Rhythm Section theory? Then any evidence or speculation can go in there and people who are not interested do not have to read it when they are going through this thread.
Would it be a good idea for Someone to have a separate thread for the The Rhythm Section theory? Then any evidence or speculation can go in there and people who are not interested do not have to read it when they are going through this thread.
YES YES YES
I've suggested that a couple of times. For those of us who don't want that kind of stuff it becomes exhausting having to read through it all just to find NTTD news. It's too much for one thread.
We tried to come up with a “news only” thread to compliment the speculation thread. But the problem is we just don’t know very much about this film, so it’s mostly speculation at this point. I’m not sure it’s fair to say that Someone’s speculation needs to be banished to a separate thread, but your speculation or mine is allowed to be posted here. Just don’t read his posts or those posts of others quoting him and you should be fine.
Out of the 250 pages of comments about NTTD my Rhythm section theory posts run to a whopping 11 posts over 12 months, since 24 August 2018. Less than one a month.
It seems a bit extreme, if not bullying, to banish anyone to their own thread because of 11 posts because a handful of people think they know what is an acceptable post and what isn't.
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No, Blake Lively will be in Bond 25 or Bond 26. She filmed her scenes for one or both those films under the guise of TRS. I think being in a Bond film would benefit anyone's career.
How many films do you know are halted for many months because someone hurt their hand? I don't see any sign of terrible hand injury here; https://images.app.goo.gl/1ywKeAFLmBDAefTQ7
I love this. The great secret back to back Bond films conspiracy reaches another level
The bolded sentence above gave it away. Someone is pulling our leg.
There was talk of filming 2 films back to back before. That wouldn't surprise me a whole lot. But if TRS is just a cover for Bond films, I will eat my Lock & Co trilby.
I think back to not only Spectre, but to Avengers Endgame. (SPOILERS FOR BOTH!)
For Spectre, somebody wrote a long, detailed, amazing historical writeup about how there's a BIG twist in Spectre we all missed, about how Denbigh's character is the real Blofeld.
But in the end, there was no twist. It was just as we suspected, and it was all pretty much given away in the first teaser: Blofeld is an old buddy of Bond from his childhood.
Will they use the Time Stone?
Nope. Just like the set pictures that leaked, they're using time travel. The "time vortex" comment from Ant Man and The Wasp was the big giveaway that Quantum Realm\time travel would play a big role, as was Ant Man showing up in the first teaser at the very end.
So, yeah, I honestly think that Rhythm Section is a legitimate production like Film Stars Don't Die In Liverpool: Babs's attempt to branch out and do different stuff.
I imagine that if it was 2 Bonds back to back, that's definitely something they would hype up and announce ASAP to get the hype train running, and to claim 2 spots in the release schedule early on.
I think we need some 'new' news about No Time To Fly... I mean Try... er Die! Yes, that's what we need. It will give us something to think about other than Someone's amazing 'two Bond films' conspiracy theory!!!
If Daniel Craig has agreed to make two more films back-to-back (which he said he wouldn't but let's say he changed his mind) why would Eon Productions and MGM need to keep it a secret? Why would Blakely Lively and Jude Law want to pretend to be making a fake spy film when it's actually Bond 26? It's a bit silly when you think about it.
It would also be legally questionable to pretend to make the film. TRS is based on a book by Mark Burnell. Why would he want his book to be made into a fake film/it's actually Bond 26! Mark Burnell has no links to the Bond films. Would why he want his work to be a disguise for Bond 26? It's tough getting any novel made into a film. If you're fortunate enough to get studio backing or other investors, you're not going to risk your work being used to make another film! That's preposterous.
The bottom line is The Rhythm Section is a real novel:
https://www.amazon.com/Rhythm-Section-Mark-Burnell/dp/0006513379
It's real, people have read it.
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
Though Jude Law vs Daniel Craig might be interesting “So Mr Bond - you screwed my girlfriend”
I just read the synopsis. My God, it sounds horrible.
Novel must be fake too.
That was exactly my line of thought when I‘ve seen the extensive list of locations {[] {[]
Location shooting is bloody expensive in those days with huge budgets for the previous films, I habe strong doubts, that the budget for location shootings is expanded significantly.
Craig‘s and Waltz‘s paychecks for sure have been lifted up significantly, they can‘t do that everywhere else.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
There would be zero reason for them to be "hiding" an entire James Bond movie and to have essentially fabricated the production of another.
THAT is much more of a clue that talk of a 2nd, secret Bond movie is garbage.
Talking of a lack of evidence, I don't see any evidence here. US firms don't have to disclose much at all. As someone who has had to deal with US company financial statements, I know they can be opaque. As Ajay Chowdhury explained on the latest James Bond and Friend podcast, films are funded in tranches. No one gets the $200 million up front.
People do seem to get worked up about the TRS fake film theory. It is a discussion forum everyone. I didn't include TRS in my original two film theory, but in this post https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/928695/#p928695 I did because the TRS situation was so strange. I wrote;
Looking back what I actually wrote was that the six month hiatus for TRS was an opportune time for people working on that film to work on a Bond film. In that case, TRS is not fake.
I am not the only one to have found a link between NTTD and TRS. Rami Malek's stunt double worked on TRS.
https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/942675/#p942675
Yeah, we've read all this before. It remains completely baseless. If AJB users don't breach the terms and conditions of this site you're free to post what you want about James Bond. However, I think you have intentionally exploited the site with your conspiracy theory. You're posting to get attention or to troll Bond fans.
I think you should stop posting these silly claims. It makes you look foolish. There is no logical, sane reason why an author would want one of his/her books to be 'pretend-adapted' into film. Writing novels takes time, months or years, and when an author is fortunate enough to get their work adapted to film they don't say "forget my novel, let's just pretend to make it and film a James Bond film instead." It's absolute nonsense.
You have contradicted yourself over and over again. You wrote:
...but in a previous post you wrote:
So one moment TRS is not fake - your actual words - then another moment Blake Lively could be a Bond girl and Jude Law is playing 008 so TRS is just a cover for Bond 25. One post you say TRS is actually filming for Bond 25 but in another post you claim the six month hiatus in TRS would mean it's not fake. The cast/crew could work on Bond 25. You do realise this makes you sound crazy. You're saying two contradictory things to justify your theory. TRS is either real or it's fake - can't be both.
Why do Eon need to cover up anything? They told us Craig had an injury, they told us Danny Boyle and John Hodges had left Bond 25, they told us each time the release date was changed - what is there to cover up? 8-)
I hope you post a full retraction when the first Rhythm Section trailer is released.
As is shown, I have proposed different theories at different times. I propose different ideas as different facts emerge.
I've always made clear they're just possible hypothesis. Think about this. The Rhythm Section is now scheduled for February next year, six months away. Where's the teaser trailer?
I am not going to die in a ditch for any of it. It's all just a bit of speculative fun. Why do people appear to get so angry?
YES YES YES
I've suggested that a couple of times. For those of us who don't want that kind of stuff it becomes exhausting having to read through it all just to find NTTD news. It's too much for one thread.
It seems a bit extreme, if not bullying, to banish anyone to their own thread because of 11 posts because a handful of people think they know what is an acceptable post and what isn't.